Verizon Wireless Windows Phone 7 status (official release May 26th)

[jaeskill]

I agree, I feel a little stupid anxiously waiting for a phone that is already considered old (in phone years). Verizons arrogance is annoying to say the least; they pick and choose what they carry with a snobbish demeanor. They said they would carry WP7 if it turned out to be good enough for them and recently said the same about the blackberry playbook. They say shit like "we dont need microsoft or nokia" when it would only boost their sales. I dont see a problem with carrying a little of everything so that you (as a company) have something for everybody so there is never a need for a customer to go to a competitor due to a lack of selection... but im not a business major so maybe that idea is as stupid as waiting for an old phone

[boe]

Originally Posted by jaeskill

I agree, I feel a little stupid anxiously waiting for a phone that is already considered old (in phone years).

I'd like to think they extended the Verizon /MS Employee Trophy offer so they could dump their stock of this antiquated hardware and get a BETTER WP7 device. I'd like to think they are getting something with -
a 4.3" Super LCD or AMOLED screen
4G communications
MSM8x60 CPU (not yet certified for WP7)
1800 mah battery
BT 3.0
USB 3.0
11 mm or slimmer

I would have no issue with Verizon delaying the release of WP7 on their network by a couple of months for a much improved handset over the Trophy as it is mediocre at best. However I would want Verizon to give us a definitive on what handset they plan on releasing and what MONTH of WHAT YEAR they actually plan on releasing it.

Considering that they aren't selling the Trophy yet, is it too much to hope they are dumping that pig for something more inline with the EVO 3D hardware but running WP7?

[eric12341]

Originally Posted by boe

I'd like to think they extended the Verizon /MS Employee Trophy offer so they could dump their stock of this antiquated hardware and get a BETTER WP7 device. I'd like to think they are getting something with -
a 4.3" Super LCD or AMOLED screen
4G communications
MSM8x60 CPU (not yet certified for WP7)
1800 mah battery
BT 3.0
USB 3.0
11 mm or slimmer

I would have no issue with Verizon delaying the release of WP7 on their network by a couple of months for a much improved handset over the Trophy as it is mediocre at best. However I would want Verizon to give us a definitive on what handset they plan on releasing and what MONTH of WHAT YEAR they actually plan on releasing it.

Considering that they aren't selling the Trophy yet, is it too much to hope they are dumping that pig for something more inline with the EVO 3D hardware but running WP7?

it is not mediocre at all wp7 doesn't need all that top of the line hardware to run fast and stable like Android does. wish people would understand that. my arrive runs faster than my cousins EVO!!!

[jaeskill]

Originally Posted by boe

I'd like to think they extended the Verizon /MS Employee Trophy offer so they could dump their stock of this antiquated hardware and get a BETTER WP7 device. I'd like to think they are getting something with -
a 4.3" Super LCD or AMOLED screen
4G communications
MSM8x60 CPU (not yet certified for WP7)
1800 mah battery
BT 3.0
USB 3.0
11 mm or slimmer

I would have no issue with Verizon delaying the release of WP7 on their network by a couple of months for a much improved handset over the Trophy as it is mediocre at best. However I would want Verizon to give us a definitive on what handset they plan on releasing and what MONTH of WHAT YEAR they actually plan on releasing it.

Considering that they aren't selling the Trophy yet, is it too much to hope they are dumping that pig for something more inline with the EVO 3D hardware but running WP7?

Lets say VZW is developing a super WP7 device... what would be the logic behind not selling the phone that is already in their inventory and has been for months? It passed FCC approval, they made flyers for pre orders, it was ready to go (for all we know). Do you really think VZW will say to the pre-order customers: "You committed to the Trohy... but you're really getting this better phone!" I don't think so.

So my question is why wait? They dont when it comes to Droid phones.

WP7 doesn't need the internals of the super phones being announced... but some improvements would increase the headroom that the OS has and increase what it is capable of.

[boe]

Originally Posted by jaeskill

Lets say VZW is developing a super WP7 device... what would be the logic behind not selling the phone that is already in their inventory and has been for months? It passed FCC approval, they made flyers for pre orders, it was ready to go (for all we know). Do you really think VZW will say to the pre-order customers: "You committed to the Trohy... but you're really getting this better phone!" I don't think so.

So my question is why wait? They dont when it comes to Droid phones.

WP7 doesn't need the internals of the super phones being announced... but some improvements would increase the headroom that the OS has and increase what it is capable of.

I agree. While I doubt this IS what is happening - rather it is what I'd hope is happening. Would you rather just bend over and say - yep Verizon's got them in stock but they are just going to hold on to them for a few more months - that will make the hardware appreciate in value because nothing makes electronics more valueable than age! If you believe it I have plenty of 2X CD players and 1 GB hard drives along with a plethora of amber monochrome CRTs I'll be happy to sell you.

What I'm doing is trying to look at it as a glass half full - maybe Verizon's not dicking us over by holding on to their precious Trophy but trying to clear their inventory of an already antiquated piece of hardware of which they had a limited stock and are getting something far better for their loyal customers

[jaeskill]

Originally Posted by boe

I agree. While I doubt this IS what is happening - rather it is what I'd hope is happening. Would you rather just bend over and say - yep Verizon's got them in stock but they are just going to hold on to them for a few more months - that will make the hardware appreciate in value because nothing makes electronics more valueable than age! If you believe it I have plenty of 2X CD players and 1 GB hard drives along with a plethora of amber monochrome CRTs I'll be happy to sell you.

What I'm doing is trying to look at it as a glass half full - maybe Verizon's not dicking us over by holding on to their precious Trophy but trying to clear their inventory of an already antiquated piece of hardware of which they had a limited stock and are getting something far better for their loyal customers

Optimism in VZW, I remember those days I posted on page 13 about patience, love, and harmony... and VZW pushed the release date back 3 times since then. Things could be much worse I suppose. If one of my complaints in life is about a company not letting me throw money at them so I can buy a damn phone, then things "ain't so bad."

Now that that's out the way lets take look at the iPhone launch. Months before iPhone 5 will be released and VZW puts out iPhone 4. CDMA radio installed, FCC approval, out the door like clockwork. There were no pre-order flyers to apple employees or anything of that nature (that I know of) so whats going on with WP7? Somebody said a few posts ago that it is likely that VZW wants to fill a pre-order quota, and lock MS employees into a 2 year contract, so that they can make back the money spent on WP7 devices. That number was not reached so they push the date back until it is and when questioned about it their response probably sounds something like this: "If your employees dont want this phone, why the f#ck should we sell it."


Whatever the reason for the delays, ill just wait. I want a new phone I dont need one.

[WMFan85]

Originally Posted by boe

What I'm doing is trying to look at it as a glass half full - maybe Verizon's not dicking us over by holding on to their precious Trophy but trying to clear their inventory of an already antiquated piece of hardware of which they had a limited stock and are getting something far better for their loyal customers

You could be right, I just noticed that they JUST lowered the price of the Fathom online to FREE. Maybe they are cleaning house before they release it because they know when WP7 comes out, none of these 6.5 and 6.5.3 phones will be selling anymore at all.

[boe]

Originally Posted by eric12341

it is not mediocre at all wp7 doesn't need all that top of the line hardware to run fast and stable like Android does. wish people would understand that. my arrive runs faster than my cousins EVO!!!

I said the hardware is mediocre - not the OS. Just because I have a BluRay player, if I hook it up to a 19" zenith black and white - it still sucks. a 3.7/3.8" screen when you can have 4.3? 3G when 4G has been out for a while? a 1250mah battery when people with WP7 phones on GSM (which requires less power than CDMA) are complaining about battery life on their 1500mah WP7 phones - really - you can't put aside your fanboyism about WP7 to realize the attack isn't on WP7 but the 2 year old hardware that Verizon wants to sell?

Just because minimum system requirements for Windows 7 is a Pentium 3 1Ghz, 1 GB of memory and 16 GB of storage and a small VGA monitor - doesn't mean that is what a windows 7 fanboy should buy from worst buy. A little headroom is a good thing. I upgraded my vogue through 3 revisions of WM. Why would anyone want to have the minimum hardware?

[darren.wlsn1]

Originally Posted by boe

I said the hardware is mediocre - not the OS. Just because I have a BluRay player, if I hook it up to a 19" zenith black and white - it still sucks. a 3.7/3.8" screen when you can have 4.3? 3G when 4G has been out for a while? a 1250mah battery when people with WP7 phones on GSM (which requires less power than CDMA) are complaining about battery life on their 1500mah WP7 phones - really - you can't put aside your fanboyism about WP7 to realize the attack isn't on WP7 but the 2 year old hardware that Verizon wants to sell?

Just because minimum system requirements for Windows 7 is a Pentium 3 1Ghz, 1 GB of memory and 16 GB of storage and a small VGA monitor - doesn't mean that is what a windows 7 fanboy should buy from worst buy. A little headroom is a good thing. I upgraded my vogue through 3 revisions of WM. Why would anyone want to have the minimum hardware?

absolutely agree

[eric12341]

Originally Posted by boe

I said the hardware is mediocre - not the OS. Just because I have a BluRay player, if I hook it up to a 19" zenith black and white - it still sucks. a 3.7/3.8" screen when you can have 4.3? 3G when 4G has been out for a while? a 1250mah battery when people with WP7 phones on GSM (which requires less power than CDMA) are complaining about battery life on their 1500mah WP7 phones - really - you can't put aside your fanboyism about WP7 to realize the attack isn't on WP7 but the 2 year old hardware that Verizon wants to sell?

Just because minimum system requirements for Windows 7 is a Pentium 3 1Ghz, 1 GB of memory and 16 GB of storage and a small VGA monitor - doesn't mean that is what a windows 7 fanboy should buy from worst buy. A little headroom is a good thing. I upgraded my vogue through 3 revisions of WM. Why would anyone want to have the minimum hardware?

u obviously have not even read all of my post. im talking about the hardware too and u can't even compare this to the bluray/19"TV situation because it is not the same thing. lookin at 4G the rollout is not complete yet and it sucks battery like crazy 3G is fast enough for everything I do. the whole 4G thing currently is just bragging rights for carriers.