Warez Vs. Tethering

[skeegcpp]

Originally Posted by darren.wlsn1

since this thread is on its way to history, i want my 5000 post to be part of history.

over-achiever..lol just playin D. its all love

[tech]

ok afther reading this post teathering without pam plan is stealing and its wrong but some people are use to it well im one of them i wouldent mind paying for pam but the sucky part the 5 gig cap i dont like it waiting to see if they put the unlimited back then ill get the usb modem but for now im tethering lol and yea it make no sence oh well

[edufur]

For the record, CrazyChef already knows he lost... he just likes the attention. Tethering is no more stealing than loading a cooked rom WITHOUT tethering. BOTH are violations of TOS. So chef... if you don't want to be part of it, leave these forums forever. Or impress us all and say... "ok, I guess you all are right."

I pretty much only like the raspberry pop tarts. Along with coffee or milk.

[guitardoc64]

First, thanks coolwhip for a laugh and a good read. Congrats to Darren on 5000 posts!
I tried to stay out of this one and just let it be a good and entertaining way to while the day away reading through the thread. I posted, talking about pop tarts, and got called out for it. I like pop tarts, so sue me.
(getting back on topic)
This is a grey-area topic. The tethering hack exists, and works. It isn't just posted here, Ive seen it posted at Sprintusers too, and it's probably out on hundreds of sites. It's a registry edit. Period. It isn't stealing someone's software, or a cracked serial for a pay program, but it does allow one to "cheat" the system. Why all the hubub? I wonder about that. I suppose it's a good topic to rant on as that has been done here, and the mods have allowed it to continue unchecked, with more anger than resolution. Everybody has their opinion, and are entitled to express it. I don't use the hack, and have no need for it. I do however, like pop tarts.

[Big D5]

Originally Posted by crazychef

First Sorry Coz, i know im fresh off of a suspension but its really a valid question...

warez /weirz/ A term used by software pirates use to describe a cracked game or application that is made available to the Internet, usually via FTP.

how is supplying a cab or reg edit for ICS not the same thing... people are blatantly saying "i dont wanna pay for it, how can i get this for free"

setting a reg edit up to change from PAM to SPRINT is no different than offering a crack for a program..

ill openly admit to using wmwifi, and not paying sprint.. what can i say, ive broken most laws, so i dont really care.. im not here to argue our moral stands on the issues.. im just saying, theres no differnce..

ARE WE NOT PROVIDING A WORK AROUND SOLUTION TO A SERVICE WE ALL ARE SUPPOSE TO BE PAYING FOR?????? how is this any differnt than a "crack" for something?

i think maybe im just tired of reading 10 new posts a day abotu tethering.. i think if we have it, we have, so that cant really change.. however i think it needs to be a banned topic now(since were not about to start posting pics of biling statements to prove we pay for it).. mostly because again, whats the difference between supposed warez and tethering.. and again, i hate seeing all the neewbie posts over it...

i honestly think everything about tethering should be removed... or if were gonna keep allowing tons of posts over and over about it, atleast make tethering its own forum and keep everything in 1 place..

Well let me try to explain it to you when you purchase a program I will use SPB Mobile shell for an example you sign an agreement no to distribute the software. By checking the box you are assuming legal liability that if you distribute the software you can be held to the letter of the agreement. When one of the bright minds in this forum makes a reg edit that allows you to tether your device and cabs it up for distribution there is no written agreement attached to that software so we are within our rights to distribute it. Now if you choose to use it you are breaking your agreement with your carrier but that has nothing to do with PPCGeeks and this website. If there is something wrong with anything posted on this web site we are notified and forced to remove it so why hasn't PPCGeeks been notified by Sprint to remove the tethering cabs?

IMHO you started this thread because you were "fresh off of a suspension" and now you are seeking some sort of twisted vindication for your situation. Your snappy thread that started such a great debate wont change the way thing are because PPCGeeks has every right to host the tethering cab files, bottom line it is the user that is in violation of the rules by using it.

[Hafrust]

You just can't argue with The Voice of Reason...

[crazychef]

Originally Posted by schettj

I know. It's kinda sad really, because it is completely different.

One is a software, the other is a service. See the difference between software and service? Note, they are different words, with a long and unambiguous difference in meaning. At no time in history has "service" ever meant, or been a synonym for "software".

And yet you cannot grasp this difference.

It's kinda depressing.

Hey, just for fun, do you tether? Do you have a PAM plan? How often do you tether? As a % of your data use in a month, how much would you say is tethering?

Me, I don't. I hooked the TP up and verified it worked, because in a emergency should I somehow find myself somewhere in the universe where I had to do something with the internet that I could not do ON my phone, but that I just HAD to do right away, then I would do it. But I never seem to find myself there. So...

I have tethered 2 times in the past 4 weeks, for about 3 minutes. I ran a speed test. It represented .01% of my total data use for that plan period. (1 time 4 weeks ago, 1 time earlier today to verify that nothing changed due to this topic)

How about you?

no whats depressing is how all of you, wont validate ics being software that takes outside interference to be run properly on our devices.. which it clearly does,, MS, NOR SPRINT allow you to use this software in this manner, without paying you due fees..

[edufur]

Originally Posted by crazychef

no whats depressing is how all of you, wont validate ics being software that takes outside interference to be run properly on our devices.. which it clearly does,, MS, NOR SPRINT allow you to use this software in this manner, without paying you due fees..

You obviously have not looked at some of the lockdown capabilities MS and others are capable of. MS DOES allow you to do it... merely by examining its simplicity. Geez... who put the quarter in you anyway? Maybe you should become a lobbyist. Now... what kind of pop tarts do you like?

[coolwhip1220]

Originally Posted by edufur

You obviously have not looked at some of the lockdown capabilities MS and others are capable of. MS DOES allow you to do it... merely by examining its simplicity. Geez... who put the quarter in you anyway? Maybe you should become a lobbyist. Now... what kind of pop tarts do you like?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

And that, right there, is what I call the last word.

[schettj]

Originally Posted by crazychef

no whats depressing is how all of you, wont validate ics being software that takes outside interference to be run properly on our devices.. which it clearly does,, MS, NOR SPRINT allow you to use this software in this manner, without paying you due fees..

LOL.

You really really don't have a clue. Sprint does not charge for the ICS software. It has NOTHING to do with software.

It's not a software issue.

Even if you want it to be, it's not.