Apple sues HTC for infringing 20 Patents...

[jwoolz48]

Saw the new this morning. I am kind of surprised Apple is willing to tie themselves up in this mess. Too bad for HTC. I very much enjoy my TP2!

[clueless25]

humm scrolling is not a novel idea.. <looks at laptop>, But heres the thing, if they are claiming "touch"?? They better think again. Computers have been able to do this for years and they have been making their way to homes and already in business's.. Point Being.. Is scrapple going to start sueing them as well? The only thing thats changed is the size of the device.

As far as apple goes?? Paaaleaseee... Widgets are for kids. Not serious folks. And there lies their issue... Kids growing up today expect something far better & faster & released continuosly then any other generation. Scrapple should have kept that in mind when the built Iphone. Instead they played the game like stuffed shirts..

[1454]

Originally Posted by gTen

There is nothing to hijack on this thread..its a TP2 forum and it doesn't even belong here..so this thread itself is offtopic. That said, patents right now may hinder innovation, but in general they are needed and 2 years is not enough.

Are you sure? I mean just look at the current situation with apple? This is harming innovation instead of helping it. And for the most part I believe this to be the case more than not. Their maybe so industries that you need patent laws, I can't speak for them all. However, with the exponential growth of technology, the technological sector is not one of them. I also believe the Medical sector to be another, which is very closely tied to the technological sector.

Originally Posted by gTen

The problem lies in how the patent system is abused, this even goes for the law system in general. To put a patent for 2 years though is not the answer as it will completely kill innovation. Unless you have the money, there is no way you would be able to make your product hit the market.

Unfortunately all industries tied to government will be. Because government itself is and always has been corrupt. Even back to the time of the founding of this country. The Founders took the action they did out of self interest to protect their own profits. Their system of government had the least flaws of any other, but still far from perfect. There is no "perfect" system of organized government. And I disagree that a product will never ht the market if you're not rich, the reason why is because most people who have an idea work for somebody. Therefore they always have been and will be backed by someone else's money.

Originally Posted by gTen

As the saying goes "Too little of something is bad and too much of something is bad"

I understand everything in moderation, but I'm not sure how to apply it in this case.

Originally Posted by gTen

On other note, even the concept of democracy and capitalism if you think about it are 1000 year old systems. It just happens to be somewhat better then the other choices available atm.

This I partially agree with. Democracy fails every time it is tried. Democracy concentrates power in the hands of a few clever enough to manipulate the masses. We(The USA) were set up to be a republic. That way you don't run into tyranny of the majority. Which is eventually what causes all democracies to self destruct. It is suppose to give all men equal rights under the law, which we no longer have.
This will explain it better than I ever could.

Now on to Capitalism. An unrestrained free market does do the most good for the most people. What we have is not an unrestrained free market, or big business would fail. The market will regulate itself, if allowed too. That is good, what we have is not. Government now creates monopolies in order to make sure it always keeps it's power. Let me get through this test tomorrow and I'll discuss this in greater detail.(if you care?)

[Recursion]

Originally Posted by 1454

That is not what I said. *** You seem to be basing my intelligence on something very trivial. *** No, I don't claim *** your narcissistic attitude.

P.S. I guess you're smarter than two economists from Washington University in St. Louis? It is a government created monopoly, therefore IT HINDERS innovation. No monopoly on earth drives innovation, nice try though. How's that public education working for you?

Uh, thatz what I read. Your words are the bases, if you think theyre trivial, then so be it. Yeah, I know you dont claim things. Narcissistic attitude...nope. Rather, your blanket statements were fun to read.

Monopoly ... exactly right. That is EXACTLY what patents and copyrights are. But there is an exchange...the inventor or author makes a public disclosure that becomes public domain after the limited monopoly period expires. Why would an inventor publicly disclose something that she or he could retain FOREVER as a trade secret ... the ONLY reason is that there is patent protection. Okay, so how about no more public teachings ... all good technology is kept secret forever. Not a good scene ... my comments were just because you made blanket statements without knowing the full picture.

[MrHawaii]

Originally Posted by Mojary

wow...anyone else smelling the road to monopoly?!?! reminds of of those times about 10 years ago when microsoft sued everyone just for breathing. one of the complaint is that htc stole the multi-touch feature which apple has patented. so now, even if other manufacturers create a multi-touch program for mobile devices, apple will swoop down on them and say their patent was stolen? let's look at it this way. if the maker patented james bond, that means that no spy movies/stories could be made (bye bye mission impossible and mr bourne).

And Chuck! Man I love that show. Who would have thought nerds and spies would make a great mix.

[MrGoodCat]

maybe instead of suing companies apple should be trying to figure out how they are going to make a 3.5" screen with 20 icons on it seem like a revolutionary idea after its been out for almost 3 years. it took them nearly 8 months to figure out how to make the icons wiggle and change positions. how much longer will it take them to figure out how to trap your soul to its internal storage? bet they'll try to patent that too...next lawsuit "Apple vs Religion...Which has the right to your soul?"

[myxheroxfell]

apple ='s a bag full of pu$$y. They're so vague those patten can be for anything. I think I'm going to patten a clear gas used to breath that is composed of paired oxygen molecules. If apple wants to stress about gestures I have a few I wouldn't mind showing them

[budney]

Originally Posted by rainfreak

Forget the other web sites, we have that news on PPCG! Now go share your comments where the whole world can see; I did!



http://www.ppcgeeks.com/2010/03/02/a...-infringement/

Agreed!


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[twe90kid]

here's a nice link to read about. it has all the details and graphs of each patent that apple is suing HTC for:

http://gizmodo.com/5483689/the-apple...ntent=FaceBook

also the funny thing is, why is the lawsuit coming right now? one month before HTC release the HD2 on tmobile? Does that mean T-mobile will be postponing release of HD2 because of violation to the lawsuit?

as for locking using slide gestures. i think the creator of s2u2 should definitely pull his software off the web before he get's sued too. oh and i think i read somewhere that apple is going after andriod because they dislike google, but HTC was caught in the mess because they create the best/most andriod phones

[Maxx134]

Apple position is surprising.
An obvious move of jelousy and cry baby tactics, feeling paraniod(because of android) by better small companies.
Such sore losers they dont care that they were also once a smaller company.
Now they are a worse bully than M$ ever was.
When will buyers finnally see how controling and manipulative the are?