Why is iPhone not considered a smartphone?

[shaggylive]

I used to have a whole series of USR modems between 2400 and 56000. We had some tall white pine's in the yard and they always got hit. I told dad God wanted me to upgrade since lightning kept taking them out.
fyi surge strips are meant for power, NOT communications. most lightning surges enter the house from phone, cable, sat. I've never seen a surge strip actually stop a surge thru the phone/network/cable jacks and the equip ends up fried too.

back on topic,, iphones are dumb.

[testacon]

Originally Posted by shaggylive

I used to have a whole series of USR modems between 2400 and 56000. We had some tall white pine's in the yard and they always got hit. I told dad God wanted me to upgrade since lightning kept taking them out.
fyi surge strips are meant for power, NOT communications. most lightning surges enter the house from phone, cable, sat. I've never seen a surge strip actually stop a surge thru the phone/network/cable jacks and the equip ends up fried too.

back on topic,, iphones are dumb.

Do you remember that when the 28.8K Sportster came out and they released the upgraded 33.6k model almost a month afterwards and you qualified for a free PROM and they mail you that with an extractor tool? Then I was all the rage when I bought that $400 USR Courier V.Everything modem, that thing was huge. It cut down a day or so from my week long downloads that happened those days.

My best friends Dad had every computer from the beginning to now. I played with 12", 8" 5 1/4 and finally 3 1/2 floppy drives. I remember the first two games I played called Invaders which was a Space Invaders clone and Snake.

Good times...<Sniff Sniff>

[NIKKG]

I started on a 386 SX 16 mhz pc with two 5 1/4 floppys and a 20 gig hdd. Back than i had a 1200 modem to connect to local bbs's before the internet. Than had Prodigy later on a 2400 modem, it was like the closest thing to the internet back than. I also remember paying 1000 for the first 1 gig drives coming, the capacity was considered unfillable back than. Those were the days, i was strictly a DOS guy until win95 came out.

[schettj]

Whippersnappers. 8080s rule. CP/M Forever!

[gTen]

Personally though, for myself I actually view an iPhone as a dumb phone..but the main reason is not of what it is capable but what is represents...I personally do not like Steve's concept of "Dumbing things down" and not giving a choice...While it may be easy to learn..smartphones should have a learning curve...why?

Because thats just it life has a learning curve...I personally fear for future generations in general where everyone is following apple on making things so dumbed down that even a retard could use it...

In the future I hope for technology would progress at a good pace as it has been in the last 20-30 years..but I have a feeling if things like this continue, we will hit a barrier not because we can't go farther but the next generation is too stupid to actually accomplish something...

Don't get me wrong I'm not saying checking your email should require you to solve a millennium math problem...But a smartphone has to be a device that promotes choice and has a learning curve which then allows for more functionality.

I mean even speaking for myself I find myself more lazy and loosing IQ with all this dumbing down going on in general...now imagine generations growing up in this dumbed down environment...I am even hearing schools making things easier for kids and etc and it personally has me worried...I mean am I the only one worried about this? :/

I mean do we really want our future generations to turn into this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAcvIqcpHrI

[fozmsu]

Originally Posted by gTen

Personally though, for myself I actually view an iPhone as a dumb phone..but the main reason is not of what it is capable but what is represents...

And that is just fine with me because you're expressing your opinion and you can't argue opinion. Just wish more people would handle it the way you do. No matter what side of the Steve is an asshat fence you stand on.

[schettj]

LOL - iPhone, it's just too damn easy. That's definitely a unique take.

What you're actually describing is progressive disclosure in a user experience. It's something that is applied consistently in the iOS UX. Hand an iPhone to someone who's never used it, and in about two minutes they will have mastered 70% of the functionality. That's sufficient to effectively use the device, but it isn't the end of the learning curve.

Anyway, this is now firmly into the realm of the ridiculous. Do you think smart phones should only use CLI?

> call 555-1212
Calling....
Ringing...
Answered> Tell "bob" hello
"Hello, Bob!"
Answered> Hangup
>

Now THATS a MANLY interface!

[redd214]

wow, some of these answers are straight off the wall lol! like i said earlier, I personally consider it a smartphone, just not the one for me. I dont wanna get too deep into this one but honestly, some of the reasons you guys are giving for why its not are just downright ridiculous!

[nite732]

Well I do own a Iphone and I do not consider it a real smartphone, is because everything needs an app. My first audiovox ppc-6700 could go online and do what I needed it to do. The iphone has come along way, but until I can be at work go online get something that I need download it to wherever and send it bluetooth, to someone else phone that needs it and then the Iphone is not it. I know about jailbreak and ssh, but the ability to share information with the least possible steps is a qualification of a smartphone to me. You can,t even send ringtones or share contact's with bluetooth. If I replace my phone I have to go to the store or order it then sync it to itunes to get all my information. A smartphone I can be sitting in the store back-up all my info to my memory card and put it in the new phone and keep going. That's what's up.

[schettj]

Originally Posted by nite732

the ability to share information with the least possible steps is a qualification of a smartphone to me.

Neat. What color is the sky in your world?