any one watching the press conference? 7/16/2010

[NIKKG]

Originally Posted by austin420

exactly. its just a phone. its got a good little video camera and an mp3 player, but really its just a phone. youve got no computing power in your pocket with an iphone. its not a ppc. other than that, there is nothing wrong with it. its just a phone.

Do you even know what your talking about? What exactly is a computer or pocket computer these days? Basically the point of a computer is to run applications. That’s it.

The main application for any computer is the OS such as Windows, Linux, Android, iOS4 etc, that instructs the computer on how to behave.

The rest comes from individual apps. To say the iphone is not a pocket computer is ridiculous since it can load various applications that run on its platform just as Android does for its platform. What exactly more can a rooted Android do that a jailbroken iphone can’t? They all pretty much do whatever the hacker wants it to do. In fact, with my iphone4, the only reason I want to jailbreak it is for free tethering. That’s it, I have no other reason to mess with it since it does everything I want it to do.

[NIKKG]

Originally Posted by gTen

So Apple declared bankruptcy right? lol

The problem though wasn't seen with the 3gs because the antenna was not in the same spot as it is now which happens ot be in a standard position for holding...

As for the return rate..its kinda hard to tell..the 3gs had a much longer lifespan then the iphone 4...

Well the return rate is 30 days anyways. Its not like you can return it a year later. Either you don't like it or keep it, i'm keeping mines.

[gTen]

Originally Posted by NIKKG

Well the return rate is 30 days anyways. Its not like you can return it a year later. Either you don't like it or keep it, i'm keeping mines.

yes..but usually for a phone like the iphone..most that bought it early are the devoted..later comes more people who are less enthusiasts but just happen to like the phone..thus % wise return rates would increase..

[Dr.8820]

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to me, a pocket pc is an extension of your pc. I can do pretty much everything on my phones that I can do on my home pc. if a device can't do that, it's not a pocket pc, at least not to me.

[NIKKG]

Originally Posted by gTen

yes..but usually for a phone like the iphone..most that bought it early are the devoted..later comes more people who are less enthusiasts but just happen to like the phone..thus % wise return rates would increase..

Trust me dude, don't kid yourself. It'll sell and sell well, its just a great phone. Even consumer reports listed it as the best phone they ever had and only faulted it for the antenna issue that wasn't even a big deal to start with. Now that you get a free case of your choosing, people will only jump more on the iphone4 since they'll save an extra 30 bucks.

[NIKKG]

Originally Posted by Dr.8820

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to me, a pocket pc is an extension of your pc. I can do pretty much everything on my phones that I can do on my home pc. if a device can't do that, it's not a pocket pc, at least not to me.

To me, the iphone4 is almost a replacement for my laptop. I barely use my laptop except for downloading stuff. I had the damn TP2, all I did was reset and wait forever for webpages to load and have missed calls because of Sprint.

Oh here is another kicker with the TP1/TP2, I hardly used it personally, it seems like all I was doing was loading new ROMS by Mighty or EnRG or Silence. Sometimes I would load 3 ROMS in a day just to see which is better. Thats all I seemed to do with it was load new ROMS on that phone. With the iphone, I can now actually use my phone for other things for once.

My new iphone loads web pages as fast as a laptop. Seriously, I'm even considering selling my laptop now and just use my desktop pc or my htpc in the living room for downloading.

[austin420]

well, back on topic...
for now...
apple press conference is well over, but if anyone missed it, or just followed a live blog like i did, here is some of it in video on cnn, for now.
http://www.cnn.com/video/?on.cnn=1&l...=true&stream=1
you know, ive never heard jobs voice. not sure why, but it doesnt sound like i expected. he grasps for words a lot too. i thought he would sound more streamlined.

[orangekid]

this is a great cliff notes version:

http://www.macrumors.com/2010/07/16/...ss-conference/

[gTen]

Originally Posted by NIKKG

Trust me dude, don't kid yourself. It'll sell and sell well, its just a great phone. Even consumer reports listed it as the best phone they ever had and only faulted it for the antenna issue that wasn't even a big deal to start with. Now that you get a free case of your choosing, people will only jump more on the iphone4 since they'll save an extra 30 bucks.

I don't kid myself...the antenna is the most important part of a phone..otherwise why not just buy a itouch?

consumer reports did not list it as the best phone..they just gave it the highest rating...but if you look how tht rating was achieved you would understand..here is one of my favorite quotes:

"Then there is the man who drowned crossing a stream with an average depth of six inches." ~W.I.E. Gates

Also I am not doubting its selling rate...I am saying the return rate is nto sufficient data based on the first 30 days it came out...

As for selling rate I do expect it to drop.. just fro the logical perspective of AT&T doing the 6 month in advanced thing...

[orangekid]

Originally Posted by gTen

I don't kid myself...the antenna is the most important part of a phone..otherwise why to just buy a itouch?

consumer reports did not list it as the best phone..they jsut gave it the highest rating...but if you look how tht rating was achieved you would understand..here is one of my favorite quotes:

Then there is the man who drowned crossing a stream with an average depth of six inches. ~W.I.E. Gates

Also I am not doubting its selling rate...I am saying the return rate is nto sufficient data based on the first 30 days it came out...

As for selling rate I do expect it to drop.. just fro the logical perspective of AT&T doing the 6 month in advanced thing...

good points, but I bet when VZW releases it in Dec/Jan they sell a crap-load.