H|July 4|.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸. Energy .¸¸.·´¯ 6.5|21916 / 6.5.X|29022 * Sense 2019

[itsachirpthing]

Originally Posted by timetraveler

does anyone know were is the cab to fix the codes i input the ##786# /##33284#and they dont work iam on the 7/22/09 build 21921 did not like the last build but can't find the cabs please anyone ??

Go here from my previous post.

Re: |HERM|ROM|6.5|WWE| ** EnergyROM 'Mercury' (23009) ** || Built July 29th ||

Enjoy the NRG!

Originally Posted by Sporkman

not whem im use to Psyki rom when i got 12 - 15 hours +

Agreed...not the best on battery. I wouldn't recommend this ROM for heavy use without a charger or extra battery with u.

But its a very nice ROM. I can usually make it through an entire work day with it which is about all I really need.

[glintz]

I went to the newest sprint radio and I don't have battery problems with this ROM.

here is the link http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=74422

I am running the aug 1 version of the rom with 1.12.34F on Sprint.

[askwhy]

Battery this. Battery that. Man, is it getting old!

* Anyone switching from a 6.1 ROM to a 6.5 w/ Rhodium is going to notice a drop in battery life. Welcome to 6.5, get used to it, quit blaming the chefs.

* Anyone who switches from a lightweight stock-like ROM to one loaded with apps and features that run in the background all day long is going to notice a drop in battery life. Welcome to reality, get used to it, quit blaming the chefs.

* Anyone who installs high-performance software like EnergyROM, but fails to implement well known power-saving tweaks is going to notice a drop in battery life. Welcome to free will, get used to it, quit blaming the chefs.

Some chefs will cook their ROM with all the known power-saving tweaks, and some gear for performance instead. A chef could claim to do both, and attempt to do both, but in reality every tweak is a trade-off of some sort -- a little give here, a little take there. That's life. For example, EnergyROM is cooked to operate with the backlight at 100% while on battery. Now, that looks great, but do you have any idea how much *extra* power that sucks? Here, for your perusal, are some 'current' values from tBattery while the phone was idle (unscientific random samples):

With Backlight Kept On

@ 40% : 84, 134, 134, 84, 84
@ 100%: 139, 139, 139, 189, 139

With Backlight Off

@ 40% : 57, 57, 57, 57
@ 100%: 57, 57, 57, 57

Think about that for a minute. At idle with the backlight unchanged after a flash, your current pull is 50-100% more than it would be if you just reduced the backlight somewhat. Do you keep your phone in your pocket? If you do, I bet you have a screen protector like S2U2, or Pocketshield, or are using the built-in WM lockscreen -- well, everytime it 'bumps' something and wakes up in your pocket at 100% backlight, guess what is happening...drain drain drain...


*** Anyone who thinks they have noticed a significant ROM-based difference in battery life between the recent EnergyROM builds is a shining example of how misunderstood is the whole battery life issue. Can you say Placebo effect? A chef could 'say' they cooked in new battery-saving features and a percentage of the community would report back that it's true. NRGZ28 has stated already that there are not any major changes int he recent build variations that should have impacted battery life. So, unless you are convinced that the SYS/XIP updates are causing massive fluctuations in battery performance, you gotta stop suggesting that 'this build' has good battery life and 'that build' has bad battery life -- it just aint like that.

Ok, so you want something more technical than all that...how about this post from ShinySideUpAZ:

Originally Posted by ShinySideUpAZ

Some background. I have spent my career as a electronics design and manufacturing engineer. Currently I am a senior engineering director for a fortune 100 company.

Not wanting to get myself set up for a flaming, but here you go. When it comes to battery life each users mileage will vary greatly. There are cases where radio ROM will be a primary driver of the usage, but this is most often the exception.

The radio circuits in these devices are very efficient. When they draw the most current is when switching networks or negotiating connections. Dirty little secret: in the early days of the development, I was involved in this, of the cell network circuits a design criteria was placed on device manufactures to connect at all costs. If a connection was lost mid call, that's ok. The network owner is getting paid for each connected minute initiated, not minutes completed. Much of this is still resident in the core of the designs. As a consequence if you live in a spotty cell area where the phone is going to often be switching back and forth, say from GSM to 3G and back, you will see less battery life. This is why putting your phone in GSM only saves battery. 3G does not use a substantial amount of current above GSM. A little more, yes, maybe 3%, but not a great amount. When negotiating a new network connection a phone radio can consume 30% more power then when in a stable transmission. Additionally the radio ROM software determines when Hard Hand Off will be executed verses a Soft Hand Off when switching cell towers. In Hard Hand Off schemes the phone is quickly switched from one tower to the next, lower power at the cost of greater risk to cell drop. In Soft Hand Off, the phone may keep a connection to multiple towers in range during the hand off which results in greater power consumption for the benifet of a lower risk to cell drop. Signal Quaility algorithms determine which connection protocol has the most stable signal. If the signal quality trigger threshold in the Radio ROM firmware is too low the phone will try to switch too often either between service towers or connection protocols, GSM vs. 3G. You will almost always get longer battery life in rual settings because the density of available towers is less which reduces the impact of Soft Hand Off. These are reasons why radio ROM can be a battery drainer. The current hot topic for study by handset and circuit designers are new power supply schemes that address many of the power conversion ratios related to operation of the handsets in switching not only between transmission protocols, but also CPU/DSP clock idling schemes. There are a great number of patents and peer reviewed papers that have been published in the last 18 months looking at optimzing the power consumption of the devices when navigating a cell area and implementing diferent hybrids of the Hard/Soft hand off problems. In time, the hope is the impact of the Radios will be less and less as the technology reaches a plateau.

HOWEVER, the greatest consumer of power in any of our cell phones is the backlight. To that end Lumos Wizard is your best tool for staying off the cord. As an experiment two days ago I shut off Lumos, or more correctly didn't install it with the July 22 update, and monitored my battery usage at the end of the day. Now with a decent amount of calls and tweaking done when you get a new ROM I ended day one with 40% battery left. On day 2 I reflashed and also loaded Lumos Wizard. Day 2 had a basically the same level of usage. I ended the day at 76% battery.

The greatest effect from the ROM are services and process that make the phone wake up when we don't intend the phone to be doing anything but quietly waiting for a call or the next message. If you suspect a ROM power drain issue, give some context to the chef. Is the phone waking up when it shouldn't? Can a bump of the button cause the backlight to turn on? When a email or text comes in does the phone wake up and the backlight turn on? Does the execution of a internet push page make the phone turn on? Are you running S2U2 and do you have wake up on message turned on the the S2U2 settings, this will cause battery drain because the backlight turns on. BTW Lumos Wizard helps this because if the phone wakes up in your pocket or belt case the light sensor will be blocked. Lumos will assume you are in a dark room and set the backlight to minimum levels until the light changes.

I am indebted to NRGZ28 and the other cooks for the great work they do. They free me from the bordem of the stock ROMs. Sometime radio problems exist, but let's do everything we can to moderate our expectations and give them the time to do what we love, the generation of great fun ROMs for us to fill out time playing with.

[sprintnerd]

Originally Posted by glintz

I went to the newest sprint radio and I don't have battery problems with this ROM anymore.

here is the link http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=74422

I am running the aug 1 version of the rom with 1.12.34F on Sprint.

Same here, My battery lasted all day and nite seriously about 10:30pm I'm @ 30% and use the phone moderately I.E> texting, Calling, and Internet

Aw crap...my battery icon has been sitting at 92% for the past hour. Is that even possible? I'm a little worried lol
Installed the newest Sprint Radio and PPST last night

Originally Posted by askwhy

Cool Program...

[cmgj]

Originally Posted by brushrop03

Cool Program...

I installed too!

[darnell]

Originally Posted by askwhy

Battery this. Battery that. Man, is it getting old!

It's like every time we get some people new to EnergyROM we have to repeat some of the same stuff repeatedly. I've been using EnergyROMs since they were made for the CDMA Touch Pro and typically on days when I'm away from a charger, after 8 hours with moderate use (a couple short calls, checking e-mail every hour or 2, a little web surfing) I'm at a little over 50% battery life.

I'm at a point where I'm not even going to repeat how we who get good battery life from this ROM do it. I know it does better than stock and even some other ROMs for me. I'm at a point where I'll just leave folks who want to know to search and read the mounting mass of posts. Besides, that's how I learned.

I flashed to the newest Sprint radio last night. Hoping that will give me even better battery life than I'm already seeing.

[Scoob]

Originally Posted by glintz

I went to the newest sprint radio and I don't have battery problems with this ROM anymore.

here is the link http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=74422

I am running the aug 1 version of the rom with 1.12.34F on Sprint.

I'm flashing just to see what kind of reception I get.
Had been using the Telus Radio.

I guess I trade any battery issues for a stable ROM.
FYI- For me, the battery life seems the same before and after 0801 ROM...