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oldman · #**1141** (**permalink**) 03-04-2009, 11:33 PM

Ok Guys, I have a question. ActiveSync does not work. I do know how to flash from the SD card. The USB connection is also working if I enter Bootloader with the cable attached.

If I wanted to flash (without ActiveSync) from the PC...where do I put the nhb file so the Bootloader will see it? In the root directory of C:, or someplace else.

Thanks.
Bob

impudent1 · #**1142** (**permalink**) 03-05-2009, 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Billy_Bob

For the first time since loading my phone with SSK1.5 20764, I used my phone all day for various tasks and I must say what all of you already know - these ROMS are a vast improvement over the stock phone.

It finally functions as it should and is much more smooth than the stock phone. Previously there were all these pauses and stops when I switch tasks and hit buttons, now it is really smooth.

I know people will tell me how much better and faster the new ROMS are. But I just wanted to remind eveyone how bad the original was - you've probably forgotten because you've been using Scotts ROMS for so long.

Even the old ones ROCK!

I've got a date in the kitchen to cook up something new with 21015.

Thanks again guys - especially Scott!

Just out of curiosity, did you use my website? If so, was it easy to follow?

DigitalAttic · #**1143** (**permalink**) 03-05-2009, 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by oldman

Ok Guys, I have a question. ActiveSync does not work. I do know how to flash from the SD card. The USB connection is also working if I enter Bootloader with the cable attached.

If I wanted to flash (without ActiveSync) from the PC...where do I put the nhb file so the Bootloader will see it? In the root directory of C:, or someplace else.

Thanks.
Bob

Can't happen w/o AS; SD only other option.

DigitalAttic · #**1144** (**permalink**) 03-05-2009, 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by impudent1

Just out of curiosity, did you use my website? If so, was it easy to follow?

What website? U holding out on us?

oldman · #**1145** (**permalink**) 03-05-2009, 02:41 AM

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Originally Posted by DigitalAttic

Can't happen w/o AS; SD only other option.

Thanks, but I'm a little surprised. I would have thought that if it was placed in the root of the drive, it would act just like flashing from the SD card.

Bob

DigitalAttic · #**1146** (**permalink**) 03-05-2009, 03:06 AM

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Originally Posted by oldman

Thanks, but I'm a little surprised. I would have thought that if it was placed in the root of the drive, it would act just like flashing from the SD card.

Bob

WM knows nothing about communication to your PC w/o AS, so the Bootloader can't receive messages from the PC to do anything with the ROM image. The reverse is not true-- your PC can see your WM device w/o AS, via USB drivers, but it only sees the SD card as a removable disk so to speak, same as an ordinary thumb-drive. The WM root, however, remains masked w/o AS to provide duplex communication to the PC via USB drivers.

QED - DA

zim2323 · #**1147** (**permalink**) 03-05-2009, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by jucytec

I see what you are saying now! LoL I wasn't even close...

But as you already know running an instance of any OS via Virtual PC or VMWare will always have it's limitations. if you were to test you'll simply be emulating the OS through a window, and in Windows Mobile SDK's case, you'll be simply testing just the software side of things... Most of the harware components will be emulated, which may not actually test any hardware components on your windows mobile device.

My company does windows mobile development, and while we do recompile some of the applications to run on x86 Windows platform; we only test the recompiled app to spot out basic usability issues/GUI design issues. Qualifying the actual software has always happened on the device inately.

of course this is only my opinion and means nothing...

Thanks!

I finally did a Google search that found some information. I guess there's a guy at xda-developers.com that has got this partially working, even with custom ROM's. The biggest problem seems to be that they are limited to the default memory sizes with no way to match what we have.

zim2323 · #**1148** (**permalink**) 03-05-2009, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by DigitalAttic

From the looks of it, the effort to do what you seek w/the MS Developer Tools is far too complex and time consuming for the average user. If you were interested in developing an application for commercial use, I would say go for it. On the other hand, if you are just a hard-core developer and want something to play with, go for it too. But my take on this is that it is not at all intended to be a test-bed platform in the way that flashing and UC/Sashimi provide. This is a tool for testing WM applications in a development environment.

Now VMware's MV is a very interesting piece of software, a mobile phone hypervisor. But the description they give isn't clear on whether a WM VM can be made using it, though it is alluded to; and that is basically-- IMHO-- what you are looking for, and that would be great to test with.

I have been using a set of tools to abstract the application and settings space from the WM OS so I can redeploy effortlessly to new WM ROMs: PM me if you are interested.

One last thing on WM Virtual.: I noticed Android was absent from the list of supported OS'es... hmmm.

TC - DA

Thanks Digital!

Currently I am just looking for something to do BASIC tests of new ROM's and testing install scripts to see how they run. That in and of itself is "application testing". The biggest problem is that is pretty much impossible considering the memory limitations of the current SDK images.

That being said, it may just be impossible to do for now. I am a VMWare Workstation customer and have contacted them to see if can get on the beta team for the MV product.

FYI....I didn't see that Google/Android was at "Windows Mobile" World Conference, but the MV demo was of Windows and Android. =)

aldojr80 · #**1149** (**permalink**) 03-05-2009, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by oldman

Ok Guys, I have a question. ActiveSync does not work. I do know how to flash from the SD card. The USB connection is also working if I enter Bootloader with the cable attached.

If I wanted to flash (without ActiveSync) from the PC...where do I put the nhb file so the Bootloader will see it? In the root directory of C:, or someplace else.

Thanks.
Bob

Me still soo surprise people flash using activesync i get funny inside. Sd card method is they way to go and yes the root is where you put the file Raphimg.nbh. The best part is i have five different roms from ssk in my sd card ofcourse renamed like sskRAR or sskB2B you get it until i need to use it. But if your not happy with one in the middle of the day you can switch when your not home. Activesync=

JWhipple · #**1150** (**permalink**) 03-05-2009, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by ColdBrew

I used the B2B ROM this weekend as a tether for my laptop. But I noticed after a while that my phones battery was drained. It seems that it wasn't charging the battery while I was tethering. Anyone else notice this before?

Not quite in that scenario... I've noticed that on occasion while using my phone as GPS in the car that it stops charging even though the cable is seated well and the power cable is in the power socket very well.