8 APR 09 - UPD 25: Mods please lock this thread!

[jucytec]

Originally Posted by impudent1

I did everything you did, have the same questions, but have not been able to take the plunge yet this evening. Pretty funny huh? I've been pretty tied up all evening, but am hoping to still dig in. DigitalAttack and jucy are a little farther down that path than I am currently, so hopefully they will chime in with their newly gained expertise.

Originally Posted by kiwi38

ok cool. i shall wait eagerly for the pros to resolve this. heh.

Originally Posted by froader

I am having a problem with the kitchen and build 21015.
I am using the exact same successful setup besides the folders in your 21015 download. I have also tried FPOS' 21018 XIP download with the same result.
Cant find ....tools\OS-new.nb.
I don't know where to look and haven't found any info on this.
Thanks!

Originally Posted by froader

Thanks for chiming in. I searched for OS-new.nb but no luck.
I use all the same selections and methods as all previous builds, but now the same damn error. I just tried c2 dropped the 21015 ROM and SYS folders in and put a few OEMS that I have been successfully using and got the same error. Probably time for a reboot and move on to something else for the night. I am going prebuilt B2B for now.
If you find the info on that error pass it along.
-Thanks!

If you guys are cooking with SSK you have to have 5 folders. this is the root of the kitchen with a BAT file which will run the batch operations to make the ROM.
1. OEM... included in SSK Kichen (Has all the OEM Apps.)
2. ROM... inlcuded in XIP from FormerPalm's Thread
3. RUU... included in SSK kitchen
4. SYS... included in the 21018 Link i provided on this thread.
5. TOOLS... included in Kitchen.

Inside the Former's XIP you'll also find .ROM and .VM they both go into the root of SYS folder.

Once you do that u'll need to copy some missing SYS... files like Office and add it back in to your SYS folder. Missing ones can come from another SYS like 21015. Once you do this you can start the kitchen and let the BuildOS load. If you didn't configure options.xml you'll see some crazy choices... If u don't know what it is check it... lol Esp Phone stuff.

U can erase IRDA and other sys's that are NOT used by TP. u'll need some researching. You can also DIFF SYS and OEM to find and duplicated files... if there are any kitchen will yell at u... and u'll have to delete one of the dups...

and u cook... and change PP by pointing it to your final .nbh file to 10 - 12 megs. I'm on 11.11MB close PagePool changer and flash!

[oldman]

Originally Posted by oldman

Not going to be much help, but I know that's been discussed in this thread. You should find it, if they didn't delete it in their page reduction.

I'm testing my memory, but i think it means one of 2 things
1) Your phone isn't unlocked
2) you have too many items selected in the BuildOS

I did the kitchen c2 with 21015 and didn't have any similar problems.

Good luck,
Bob

Originally Posted by froader

Thanks for chiming in. I searched for OS-new.nb but no luck.
I use all the same selections and methods as all previous builds, but now the same damn error. I just tried c2 dropped the 21015 ROM and SYS folders in and put a few OEMS that I have been successfully using and got the same error. Probably time for a reboot and move on to something else for the night. I am going prebuilt B2B for now.
If you find the info on that error pass it along.
-Thanks!

See Post #314

Bob

[DigitalAttic]

Originally Posted by xb1az3x

It says CE OS 5.2.21018 (Build 21018.1.6.0)

Edit: Currently flashing the phone with NetCF3.5 from 21015 to see if that does anything.

Check yer PM...

Enjoy, DA

[froader]

Originally Posted by oldman

See Post #314

Bob

Thanks! I just couldn't believe that I was going over...
I have been very consistent with what I put in my rom.
I guess the base of the kitchens have been growing.

I was able to build a 21018 Rom, well booting now.
Former's XIP
Jucytec's SYS
Scotts C2 kitchen w modded OEM folder.
Well if I cant get this to boot then I will try Scott's 21015 kitchen.

[froader]

Originally Posted by oldman

See Post #314

Bob

Originally Posted by jucytec

If you guys are cooking with SSK you have to have 5 folders. this is the root of the kitchen with a BAT file which will run the batch operations to make the ROM.
1. OEM... included in SSK Kichen (Has all the OEM Apps.)
2. ROM... inlcuded in XIP from FormerPalm's Thread
3. RUU... included in SSK kitchen
4. SYS... included in the 21018 Link i provided on this thread.
5. TOOLS... included in Kitchen.

Inside the Former's XIP you'll also find .ROM and .VM they both go into the root of SYS folder.

Once you do that u'll need to copy some missing SYS... files like Office and add it back in to your SYS folder. Missing ones can come from another SYS like 21015. Once you do this you can start the kitchen and let the BuildOS load. If you didn't configure options.xml you'll see some crazy choices... If u don't know what it is check it... lol Esp Phone stuff.

U can erase IRDA and other sys's that are NOT used by TP. u'll need some researching. You can also DIFF SYS and OEM to find and duplicated files... if there are any kitchen will yell at u... and u'll have to delete one of the dups...

and u cook... and change PP by pointing it to your final .nbh file to 10 - 12 megs. I'm on 11.11MB close PagePool changer and flash!

Thanks for the support.
I am all good on what I need in there, im just not familiar with what needs to be inside the folders. As long as I have them matched up to work alls good.
It turns out to be that I cooked too large, which I have corrected now.
I did try the 21018 as you described, but it wouldnt boot. I need some more time to work on it or wait until someone puts out a matching XIP with seperated out SYS.

[oldman]

Can someone check Is the WM File Explorer automatically installed with Scott's C2 Kitchen? I believe that it is installed as a "default" file explorer. I did a hard reset and I seem to have lost it. Looks like I may have to reflash my phone.

EDIT: Ok, I think that there are problems in RIVER CITY
1) No File Explorer....without it can't access SD Card
2) PDA is not detected by Active Sync on Pc....Already checked the normal culprits, reintstalled AS on the PC...Still no luck
3) If I can't get to the SD card, and I can't use ActiveSync, how do I reflash? I would need some type of "autostart" file on the SD card to enter the bootloader. Is there one out there?

4) I can get to the internet via data link. What I need is a "file explorer" that can "auto-install" OTA....If I could get some type of explorer installed, then I could do a flash. But it needs to be auto installed since i can't get to a cab to start installation. Open to suggestions.
5) Alternate usb cable didn't work either.

Bob

[impudent1]

Originally Posted by jucytec

If you guys are cooking with SSK you have to have 5 folders. this is the root of the kitchen with a BAT file which will run the batch operations to make the ROM.
1. OEM... included in SSK Kichen (Has all the OEM Apps.)
2. ROM... inlcuded in XIP from FormerPalm's Thread
3. RUU... included in SSK kitchen
4. SYS... included in the 21018 Link i provided on this thread.
5. TOOLS... included in Kitchen.

Inside the Former's XIP you'll also find .ROM and .VM they both go into the root of SYS folder.

Once you do that u'll need to copy some missing SYS... files like Office and add it back in to your SYS folder. Missing ones can come from another SYS like 21015. Once you do this you can start the kitchen and let the BuildOS load. If you didn't configure options.xml you'll see some crazy choices... If u don't know what it is check it... lol Esp Phone stuff.

U can erase IRDA and other sys's that are NOT used by TP. u'll need some researching. You can also DIFF SYS and OEM to find and duplicated files... if there are any kitchen will yell at u... and u'll have to delete one of the dups...

and u cook... and change PP by pointing it to your final .nbh file to 10 - 12 megs. I'm on 11.11MB close PagePool changer and flash!

GREAT POST. That saved hours of research! I keep "notes" on everything important I read, and this post just made it to my personal notes. Thanks so much Jucy!!

[impudent1]

Originally Posted by DigitalAttic

Hehe... I FINALLY after a full day of trial, error, cooking, flashing, coffee, research, coffee, cooking, flashing, more coffee... well you get the program...

Have what appears to be a stable build of 21018SYS.21018XIP as posted previously. I had been close then, but ran into some skin and camera issues.

Everything seems to have been solved, but again, this is the 1st 24hrs I'm burning this build in...

I've tested Phone, email, SMS, Wireless-G, BT, GPS, camera all going at the same time when possible, and I have not had any issues, but again it's early in the test phase. I do think this is a solid as can be build, the last we'll see of Win CE 6.1. I have not installed any apps other than what is standard in the kitchen, and I don't use S2U2, but don't see it or anything else having any problems that we haven't already seen... maybe, with any luck this will be the "build of the Windows Mobile Gods"

I can upload the SYS and XIP base files you can use in Scott's kitchen to my website if folks want to try it out: I've only tested on the latest 15C2, don't plan to do backward tests, and can't be responsible if you brick your phone. You have been warned...

I'm also not gonna hi-jack this thread from Scott... I'm just helpin' the community of SSKers out here while the Master is on vacation.

To use this build all you have to do is replace your SYS and ROM folders in the kitchen. Remember to back up your originals 1st!!

http://digitalattic.us/images/screen01.bmp

http://digitalattic.us/images/screen02.bmp

So let me know by hittin' the thanks button, and sending me a PM or two... if I get enough responses I will edit this post with the package link. I'll be using Winrar, so make sure you have it as Winzip won't cut it.

CFN - DA

While the chefs away, the dishwashers will play!! Dude, that's so exciting! You and jucy are branching our quite nicely. I cant wait til I get started.

[impudent1]

Originally Posted by oldman

Can someone check Is the WM File Explorer automatically installed with Scott's C2 Kitchen? I believe that it is installed as a "default" file explorer. I did a hard reset and I seem to have lost it. Looks like I may have to reflash my phone.

EDIT: Ok, I think that there are problems in RIVER CITY
1) No File Explorer....without it can't access SD Card
2) PDA is not detected by Active Sync on Pc....Already checked the normal culprits, reintstalled AS on the PC...Still no luck
3) If I can't get to the SD card, and I can't use ActiveSync, how do I reflash? I would need some type of "autostart" file on the SD card to enter the bootloader. Is there one out there?

4) I can get to the internet via data link. What I need is a "file explorer" that can "auto-install" OTA....If I could get some type of explorer installed, then I could do a flash. But it needs to be auto installed since i can't get to a cab to start installation. Open to suggestions.
5) Alternate usb cable didn't work either.

Bob

Bob, are you still having issues? I noticd that this post is 2 hours old...... I'm assuming you are way too determined not to have it fixed by now.

Here is what I would do: get an external card reader, screw trying to access the SD card through the phone. Edit the SDConfig.txt and include total commander into it. Get everything in order, put the SD card back in the phone, hard reset and you should be able to work from there.

[jbachandouris]

Originally Posted by impudent1

Bob, are you still having issues? I noticd that this post is 2 hours old...... I'm assuming you are way too determined not to have it fixed by now.

Here is what I would do: get an external card reader, screw trying to access the SD card through the phone. Edit the SDConfig.txt and include total commander into it. Get everything in order, put the SD card back in the phone, hard reset and you should be able to work from there.

Cool. I was on the right path. I was about to suggest the exact same thing, but you beat me to it!