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redd214 03-06-2009 12:27 AM
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nope the stock build is 19974, and trust me its brutal lol!

platniumrover 03-06-2009 12:33 AM
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Ok, I like the ROM..But there seems to be an issue with some thing hanging up....It seems as though while im typing lets say I am pressing the space bar when this "hang up" happens, it will just keep spacing away if u know what i mean. Does the same on any letter I am pressing when this happens. At first I though my keys on my keyboard were sticking. But now my key board doesnt seem to wanna work. Is there a fix I may have missed or something??

impudent1 03-06-2009 12:36 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by redd214 (Post 755972)
sorry for my ignorance, but basically what ur saying is that i cant install 3.5 on my phone because itll prevent it from working? damn that would suck cuz i have a few apps that require it. thanx for your help

EDIT: i searched but i couldnt find an answer, but is it possible to have netcf 2.0 and 3.5 at the same time or will 3.5 automatically overwrite 2.0?
Dude, the only difference between your ignorance and mine, is that I stumbled upon some info. I've can flash a rom and a few other things, thats it. I've been doing this for 2 weeks total

That said I found this link a little easier, and it may lead you down the path:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=390403

RONMAC 03-06-2009 12:36 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by redd214 (Post 755988)
nope the stock build is 19974, and trust me its brutal lol!

I know scott created a ROM based on the stock build.

I will look through my ROMs and see if I have it.

impudent1 03-06-2009 12:38 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by platniumrover (Post 755998)
Ok, I like the ROM..But there seems to be an issue with some thing hanging up....It seems as though while im typing lets say I am pressing the space bar when this "hang up" happens, it will just keep spacing away if u know what i mean. Does the same on any letter I am pressing when this happens. At first I though my keys on my keyboard were sticking. But now my key board doesnt seem to wanna work. Is there a fix I may have missed or something??
You have not been watching cell phone porn have you? I'm pretty sure this is a "first" report on this issue in this thread. That includes the 1500 posts that were previously deleted.

redd214 03-06-2009 12:38 AM
Re: *21 Feb* UPD 15: SSK 1.5M *8* OS Kitchen inc WM6.5 Build 21159 and OS 21015 ROM -
 
thanx fellas, i really appreciate the help!

RONMAC 03-06-2009 12:39 AM
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Guys, How can I tell what build a ROM is without flashing to it? I have all of Scott's earlier ROMs up to VZNAV 3.0 Final.

impudent1 03-06-2009 12:43 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RONMAC (Post 756009)
Guys, How can I tell what build a ROM is without flashing to it? I have all of Scott's earlier ROMs up to VZNAV 3.0 Final.
Great question! I found the easiest way to have this answer readily available is better file management on my PC.

\kitchen\21015\kitchen_core_C2\(all the goodies)
\kitchen\21018\you get the idea

**EDIT** this will bite you in the backside if you are not careful when it comes to the pagepool utility. If you are going with a different build, you better be sure you get the right path to the .nbh file or something bad will happen. I'm not sure what it is yet, but eventually I'll get complacent or in a hurry and will hose myself.

Granted there will be a lot of duplication, but keeping your builds seperate is golden. I mean, who really goes through and deletes their duplicate MP3's?

RONMAC 03-06-2009 12:48 AM
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HAHA!!!!

I will try and figure it.

I am sure there is a way.

platniumrover 03-06-2009 12:50 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by impudent1 (Post 756006)
You have not been watching cell phone porn have you? I'm pretty sure this is a "first" report on this issue in this thread. That includes the 1500 posts that were previously deleted.
Ok With that being said, Im reloading it right now. But uhhh thats only bc I could never get this phone to hard reset. Power button, Volume down button and the enter that is between the talk and end. If that makes sense..Any order or tricks to the trade?

RONMAC 03-06-2009 12:52 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by platniumrover (Post 756023)
Ok With that being said, Im reloading it right now. But uhhh thats only bc I could never get this phone to hard reset. Power button, Volume down button and the enter that is between the talk and end. If that makes sense..Any order or tricks to the trade?

Press the center of the D-PAD and hold the reset button at the same time until you get the reset message.

impudent1 03-06-2009 12:53 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by platniumrover (Post 756023)
Ok With that being said, Im reloading it right now. But uhhh thats only bc I could never get this phone to hard reset. Power button, Volume down button and the enter that is between the talk and end. If that makes sense..Any order or tricks to the trade?
yeah, that method sucks. I'm already fat, so that one is virtually impossible.

press and hold the thumb button (aka enter) hit the soft reset switch, maintain pressure on the thumb button until you are prompted to hit volume UP.
When it's completed the phone will prompt you for volume UP again.

redd214 03-06-2009 01:00 AM
Re: *21 Feb* UPD 15: SSK 1.5M *8* OS Kitchen inc WM6.5 Build 21159 and OS 21015 ROM -
 
i think i know what i can do....

does anyone have a cab for NETCF 2.0????

gman4471 03-06-2009 01:03 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by impudent1 (Post 755949)
for the 2 guys with 21015 battery issues, I'm attaching my buildOS screenshots, just so you can see what I'm running on a working build without issues. No promises that it will work, just a good starting point.
The percent over battery icon seems to be working, its only the stock icon that's having issues.

platniumrover 03-06-2009 01:10 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RONMAC (Post 756026)
Press the center of the D-PAD and hold the reset button at the same time until you get the reset message.
Man, Still a No go!!!

jucytec 03-06-2009 01:11 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by redd214 (Post 755852)
i have a pretty unique question hopefully someone can help me out and i apoligize for the length of my post...

backstory: the reason i got a winmo phone is because of my work. we used to use palm software for our mobile applications but we just switched to winmo 6.1 to do the same thing

now they just released the new software for us and i have been having a VERRY tough time getting it to work with my ssk 1.5 rom. the help desk couldnt help me so i tried everything, deleting apps, hard resets, etc and still couldnt get it to work. i was using build 21015.

i decided that maybe the build of winmo might have been the problem and guess what, it was so i reflased with the stock build and low and behold it FINALLY worked. i alos tried every other build and the only one that worked was the stock one.

now the question i have is what is so diff. between the build numbers that would cause this?

i am still somewhat of a newb so i hope this isnt a dumb question and hopefully my story makes sense. if anyone could assist me or if you need more details any help would be appreciated cuz the stock build.... well it sux lol. i would much rather use the newer ones.

thanx in advance!!

Red welcome to the forum..

I think I know why your special app might be crashing...

.NET compact framework 2.0 and 3.5 are separate packages, but... 3.5 UPGRADEs some of the 2.0 Packages with Service Packs. Having said that, the Original SYS included with Vz's stock ROM has just .NET 2.0. Scott's ROM and many other cooked ROMs already pack 3.5 in the SYS or the OEM package.

Your solution may be as simple as getting a SYS version of 2.0 .NET and replacing the 3.5 folder entirely (if you are cooking that is...). You special App just might not support the Service Packs included in the 3.5 package.

impudent1 03-06-2009 01:15 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gman4471 (Post 756038)
The percent over battery icon seems to be working, its only the stock icon that's having issues.
Glad I never tried it LOL!

RONMAC 03-06-2009 01:15 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by redd214 (Post 756035)
i think i know what i can do....

does anyone have a cab for NETCF 2.0????

Here it is!

impudent1 03-06-2009 01:19 AM
Re: *21 Feb* UPD 15: SSK 1.5M *8* OS Kitchen inc WM6.5 Build 21159 and OS 21015 ROM -
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by platniumrover (Post 756043)
Man, Still a No go!!!
well, if you read his post, and the one I followed it up with (we were typing at the same time, mine was longer). then there is a third option, that sucks more because you have to do the ole *228 when you are done.

settings\system\memory

clear storage
type in 1234 then hit the ok button in the upper RIGHT hand corner

This will kill anything you installed after the initial flash.

RONMAC 03-06-2009 01:20 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by platniumrover (Post 756043)
Man, Still a No go!!!

I know that some people have said that they need to try a few times before they get it.

Either that or go to start> settings> System Tab> Memory> clear Storage tab. Enter 1234 in the text box and then hit the OK button in the upper right hand corner of the screen (like you would normally close a program).

The only problem is if you use this method you will HAVE to reprogram your phone by dialing *22899.

If you can get the center of the d-pad and the reset button option to work, you will NOT HAVE to re program with *22899.

RONMAC 03-06-2009 01:22 AM
Re: *21 Feb* UPD 15: SSK 1.5M *8* OS Kitchen inc WM6.5 Build 21159 and OS 21015 ROM -
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by impudent1 (Post 756054)
well, if you read his post, and the one I followed it up with (we were typing at the same time, mine was longer). then there is a third option, that sucks more because you have to do the ole *228 when you are done.

settings\system\memory

clear storage
type in 1234 then hit the ok button in the upper RIGHT hand corner

This will kill anything you installed after the initial flash.

Your turn to be first to respond LOL!

redd214 03-06-2009 01:28 AM
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RONMAC, ur the shiznit!!!! thanx man, im gonna see if this fixes it i will let u guys know!!

DigitalAttic 03-06-2009 01:32 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by redd214 (Post 755953)
its a verizon tp. the app itself wasnt just a regular cab like everything else, it has conduits and could only be installed thru syncing if that makes sense. it actually didnt require netcf 3.5 just 2.0. i know 21015 was kinda quirky but i tried 20764 and 20931 as well and those didnt work either.

forgot sorry, the error message said that the "windows turboapp (name of the application) conduit cannot communicate with your device, please press ok to attempt again"
That's your problem right there: the stock ROM has NCF2 in the base, the custom ROMs do not. If you flash 21015 or better yet 21018, and install NCF2 from MS downloads, then install your app, all will be well in WM World. There's no issue running both NCF35 and NCF2, it is actually recommended and supported, just as it is on your PC. For that matter, same can be said about running different levels of Java.

Edit: This can be verified using the utility Bob posted below. Thanks Bob!

TTFN - DA

oldman 03-06-2009 01:34 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by redd214 (Post 756035)
i think i know what i can do....

does anyone have a cab for NETCF 2.0????
here is also a neat little utility that will tell you what version of NETCF is installed on your machne.

Bob

redd214 03-06-2009 01:53 AM
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flashing now guys, that method is exatcly what i was thinking, it didnt work with 20931 but im trying with the others

Kamokazi 03-06-2009 02:05 AM
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Version 1.52 of S2U2 is out...mostly bugfixes except for a delay in asking for password again.

http://s2u2.ac-s2.com/

kyle4269 03-06-2009 02:17 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kamokazi (Post 756097)
Version 1.52 of S2U2 is out...mostly bugfixes except for a delay in asking for password again.

http://s2u2.ac-s2.com/
seems like they release a new version every other day hehe

chuggy 03-06-2009 02:51 AM
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Has anyone else experienced issues with the call waiting sound? I just flashed to 21015 on my Alltel TP, and now when a second call comes through it has this incredibly obnoxious beep. If anyone has a fix for this I would greatly appreciate it, other than that this seems to be the best of the best.

Thanks!

oldman 03-06-2009 03:23 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by redd214 (Post 756084)
flashing now guys, that method is exatcly what i was thinking, it didnt work with 20931 but im trying with the others
At this point, I'd recommend a hard reset to flush out any residual crap that might be left over from previous efforts.

Bob

oldman 03-06-2009 03:25 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by chuggy (Post 756146)
Has anyone else experienced issues with the call waiting sound? I just flashed to 21015 on my Alltel TP, and now when a second call comes through it has this incredibly obnoxious beep. If anyone has a fix for this I would greatly appreciate it, other than that this seems to be the best of the best.

Thanks!
That answer should be easily found in the manual.

Bob

impudent1 03-06-2009 07:52 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RONMAC (Post 756056)
I know that some people have said that they need to try a few times before they get it.

Either that or go to start> settings> System Tab> Memory> clear Storage tab. Enter 1234 in the text box and then hit the OK button in the upper right hand corner of the screen (like you would normally close a program).

The only problem is if you use this method you will HAVE to reprogram your phone by dialing *22899.

If you can get the center of the d-pad and the reset button option to work, you will NOT HAVE to re program with *22899.
I typed less, its the key to posting first.

zim2323 03-06-2009 09:28 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DigitalAttic (Post 756067)
That's your problem right there: the stock ROM has NCF2 in the base, the custom ROMs do not. If you flash 21015 or better yet 21018, and install NCF2 from MS downloads, then install your app, all will be well in WM World. There's no issue running both NCF35 and NCF2, it is actually recommended and supported, just as it is on your PC. For that matter, same can be said about running different levels of Java.

Edit: This can be verified using the utility Bob posted below. Thanks Bob!

TTFN - DA
Why would custom ROM's not have NCF2? My experience so far is that all of Scott's ROM's have NCF2 left in. Why would someone not want that cooked into the ROM?

Thanks!

zim2323 03-06-2009 10:06 AM
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What's the difference between the Slide2Answer included(?) in Slide2Unluck vs the S2A that everyone is including in their custom ROM's?

Thanks!

rainfreak 03-06-2009 10:11 AM
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The S2A in the roms is a phonecanvas for the actual dialer on the phone. S2U2 S2A is in that app. I used to use the S2U2 S2A but when the new radio and phoencanvas was released I swtiched.

To me it is just one less third party app running for something my phone can do on it's own.

zim2323 03-06-2009 10:30 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rainfreak (Post 756379)
The S2A in the roms is a phonecanvas for the actual dialer on the phone. S2U2 S2A is in that app. I used to use the S2U2 S2A but when the new radio and phoencanvas was released I swtiched.

To me it is just one less third party app running for something my phone can do on it's own.
Ok, that makes more sense. Someone needs to rename the S2A app, because that is confusing as hell. I originally thought that S2A was a plugin for S2U2 S2A because until I installed S2A I couldn't get the S2U2 S2A to work properly. Looking back I think it was probably a setting or something that didn't take until a reboot.

So what is S2A vs the Curtain. The installers say Slide to Answer WITH curtain. If I have S2U2 S2A enabled, is that hiding another function of S2A. The way the installer explains it, it sounds like S2A with Curtain is 2 functions, one to "slide to answer", and then a curtain that blocks off the dialpad.

Be patient, I'm slow. =)

Thanks ya' freak! =)

zim2323 03-06-2009 10:34 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rainfreak (Post 756379)
The S2A in the roms is a phonecanvas for the actual dialer on the phone. S2U2 S2A is in that app. I used to use the S2U2 S2A but when the new radio and phoencanvas was released I swtiched.

To me it is just one less third party app running for something my phone can do on it's own.

Oh, and what new radio?

Kamokazi 03-06-2009 10:59 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by zim2323 (Post 756411)
So what is S2A vs the Curtain. The installers say Slide to Answer WITH curtain. If I have S2U2 S2A enabled, is that hiding another function of S2A. The way the installer explains it, it sounds like S2A with Curtain is 2 functions, one to "slide to answer", and then a curtain that blocks off the dialpad.
That S2A with curtain is the HTC dialer ripped from the TouchHD (I think). It has Slide to Answer, different from S2U2 (but they are both functionally the same), and has a curtain over the buttons while in-call.

zim2323 03-06-2009 11:18 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kamokazi (Post 756460)
That S2A with curtain is the HTC dialer ripped from the TouchHD (I think). It has Slide to Answer, different from S2U2 (but they are both functionally the same), and has a curtain over the buttons while in-call.
So it is 2 functions then? I had S2A installed without S2U2 S2A enabled and I never had any other function then just the curtain over the dialer. Am I missing something?

zim2323 03-06-2009 11:35 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by zim2323 (Post 756499)
So it is 2 functions then? I had S2A installed without S2U2 S2A enabled and I never had any other function then just the curtain over the dialer. Am I missing something?
I just confirmed this. I turned off/disabled S2A from within S2U2 and am not getting any S2A feature, just the original answer/end buttons. I do get the curtain over the dialer. Nothing requires to me slide any buttons on the screen like I see in the S2A thread. Do I need to reinstall the app?

RONMAC 03-06-2009 11:39 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by redd214 (Post 755988)
nope the stock build is 19974, and trust me its brutal lol!
I flashed back to stock and the build is 19972 (so close red).

I also flashed to the VZNAV 3.0 (one of my favorites) and the build for that is 20954.

So much for going to a better version of the stock build :)

Did the netcf 2.0 solve your issue?


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