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clubprerit 03-04-2009 10:40 AM
Re: *21 Feb* UPD 15: SSK 1.5M *8* OS Kitchen inc WM6.5 Build 21159 and OS 21015 ROM -
 
by the way, it is off of scott's website and the preferred ROM everybody likes. i have some small cosmetic issues with the one i have right now with the phone dialpad.

jucytec 03-04-2009 10:44 AM
Re: *21 Feb* UPD 15: SSK 1.5M *8* OS Kitchen inc WM6.5 Build 21159 and OS 21015 ROM -
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by zim2323 (Post 752597)
I have been working in the corporate IT field for almost 10 years. Most of which I have spent doing WAN/LAN Windows Server domain migrations, as well as Exchange 2000/2003/2007 Server migrations. The time that I have worked with Exchange I have become pretty familiar with the Windows Moble 6 SDK's. I have used them as a virutal "lab" to test, configure, and troubleshoot mobile user issues with phones, etc.

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en

Is there ANY way that these tools can be used as a testing ground for new ROM's before they are deployed to phones. The best example that pops into my head, is being able to test UC or Sushami(?) scripts at first boot before you push them to the phone. Once you have everything working good there, you could do live tests on your actual phone.

I've been reading the UC documentation I was pointed to and I'm looking for someplace to test what I'm doing without having to reflash the phone everytime I do it. I'd rather just build the UC script one step at a time.

I'm uncertain what you are trying to test... I've also served in the IT realm for 4 years a while back.

UC script is dead simple, as it only has a number of commands that it can execute. XMLs are required for provisioning registry settings.

Sashimi is even simpler as it only requires you to store Cabs, and Regs into a specific folder in your SD card for auto or manual execution.

In terms of Mail Account setups, Exchange/IMAP4/POP3, they are all provisioned from a single or multiple XMLs.

Of course regular rule for a Valid XML schema must be followed including omitting the usage of special characters and replacing them with XML equivalent. Such as & = &

Sashimi allows you to run anytime you'd like, while UC is ran after the Initial boot of a ROM Flash. The downside to UC especially when using ROMs that has Autocalibrate scripts... You will not be able to use your touch screen to click OK on messages that pop up. You can HIDE the UC window and UNLOCK the screen, but you'll need to use the Dpad to interact with any popup windows.

Let me know if this answers your question.

jucytec 03-04-2009 10:45 AM
Re: *21 Feb* UPD 15: SSK 1.5M *8* OS Kitchen inc WM6.5 Build 21159 and OS 21015 ROM -
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by RONMAC (Post 752604)
S2U2 = FREE :headbang:

Pocket Shield = $12.90

LoL nice comparison...

zim2323 03-04-2009 10:45 AM
Re: *21 Feb* UPD 15: SSK 1.5M *8* OS Kitchen inc WM6.5 Build 21159 and OS 21015 ROM -
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by clubprerit (Post 752608)
i cannot get this to open right:
[CE OS 21015 Build 21015] - Rev C2 - Stable!
the zip file opens with two folders:
sys & rom, but the .nbh file is nowhere to be found. anybody know how i can get this installed?
Is this a CE OS from the kitchen? If so, did you download the Kitchen C2beta? Look at the #2 post of this thread. It explains everything there.

robp23 03-04-2009 10:53 AM
Re: *21 Feb* UPD 15: SSK 1.5M *8* OS Kitchen inc WM6.5 Build 21159 and OS 21015 ROM -
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by clubprerit (Post 752608)
i cannot get this to open right:
[CE OS 21015 Build 21015] - Rev C2 - Stable!
the zip file opens with two folders:
sys & rom, but the .nbh file is nowhere to be found. anybody know how i can get this installed?
Your .nbh will be created once you cook your rom that build is for the kitchen. Drop those two folders into the the kitchen folder and cook up something fun.


Rob

clubprerit 03-04-2009 11:36 AM
Re: *21 Feb* UPD 15: SSK 1.5M *8* OS Kitchen inc WM6.5 Build 21159 and OS 21015 ROM -
 
gratzi!

rab669 03-04-2009 11:41 AM
Re: *21 Feb* UPD 15: SSK 1.5M *8* OS Kitchen inc WM6.5 Build 21159 and OS 21015 ROM -
 
Im running rev C2 with CE OS 21015 and having issue with Battery Indicator on the top right. It will display Battery when it is plugged in, display plugged in when on battery, it will show the battery at 20% even if it is fully charged. It is very inconsistent. When I plug in the phone the indicator will not switch to show external power immediately. Eventualyy it will display the correct data but it takes a long time to update to the current battery status.

impudent1 03-04-2009 12:06 PM
Re: *21 Feb* UPD 15: SSK 1.5M *8* OS Kitchen inc WM6.5 Build 21159 and OS 21015 ROM -
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by rab669 (Post 752724)
Im running rev C2 with CE OS 21015 and having issue with Battery Indicator on the top right. It will display Battery when it is plugged in, display plugged in when on battery, it will show the battery at 20% even if it is fully charged. It is very inconsistent. When I plug in the phone the indicator will not switch to show external power immediately. Eventualyy it will display the correct data but it takes a long time to update to the current battery status.
I'm running exactly what you are, with only the selectable options differing. I have not had the same issue, so I have to ask the obvious, when you cooked your rom, did you make sure that BOTH battery icon options were not selected? Irregardless I would recommend recooking the rom and flashing the phone. 21015 has been pretty stable for most users.

Nimdock 03-04-2009 01:01 PM
Re: *21 Feb* UPD 15: SSK 1.5M *8* OS Kitchen inc WM6.5 Build 21159 and OS 21015 ROM -
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by rab669 (Post 752724)
Im running rev C2 with CE OS 21015 and having issue with Battery Indicator on the top right. It will display Battery when it is plugged in, display plugged in when on battery, it will show the battery at 20% even if it is fully charged. It is very inconsistent. When I plug in the phone the indicator will not switch to show external power immediately. Eventualyy it will display the correct data but it takes a long time to update to the current battery status.
Are you a Sprint user?

zim2323 03-04-2009 02:04 PM
Re: *21 Feb* UPD 15: SSK 1.5M *8* OS Kitchen inc WM6.5 Build 21159 and OS 21015 ROM -
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jucytec (Post 752614)
I'm uncertain what you are trying to test... I've also served in the IT realm for 4 years a while back.

UC script is dead simple, as it only has a number of commands that it can execute. XMLs are required for provisioning registry settings.

Sashimi is even simpler as it only requires you to store Cabs, and Regs into a specific folder in your SD card for auto or manual execution.

In terms of Mail Account setups, Exchange/IMAP4/POP3, they are all provisioned from a single or multiple XMLs.

Of course regular rule for a Valid XML schema must be followed including omitting the usage of special characters and replacing them with XML equivalent. Such as & = &

Sashimi allows you to run anytime you'd like, while UC is ran after the Initial boot of a ROM Flash. The downside to UC especially when using ROMs that has Autocalibrate scripts... You will not be able to use your touch screen to click OK on messages that pop up. You can HIDE the UC window and UNLOCK the screen, but you'll need to use the Dpad to interact with any popup windows.

Let me know if this answers your question.
You gave an "answer" and asked a question that had nothing to do with my question.

What I'm trying to accomplish is just what I said the first time. I want to create a VIRTUAL environment to test in rather than reflashing the phone to test for each change. I've actually got the 6.1.4 SDK installed and testing SEVEN application with it right now. I can "hot dock" the virtual device and play DIRECTLY with it without screwing up my phone in the mean time.

Neither UC or Sashimi really have anything to do with the question other than this would make testing them easier.

The question wasn't why should I not use virtualization.

The question was and still is, has anybody tried to utilize the Windows Mobile SDK virtualization tools as a testing platform for testing new ROM's?

If was and dropped, what were the reasons? Maybe there are too many limitations on this. The mobile virtualization product that VMWare demo'd at Mobile World Conference really sparked this interest.

Thanks!

Kamokazi 03-04-2009 02:21 PM
Re: *21 Feb* UPD 15: SSK 1.5M *8* OS Kitchen inc WM6.5 Build 21159 and OS 21015 ROM -
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by zim2323 (Post 752991)
The question wasn't why should I not use virtualization.

The question was and still is, has anybody tried to utilize the Windows Mobile SDK virtualization tools as a testing platform for testing new ROM's?

If was and dropped, what were the reasons? Maybe there are too many limitations on this. The mobile virtualization product that VMWare demo'd at Mobile World Conference really sparked this interest.

Thanks!
Lots of reasons. Hardware drivers, radios, carrier-specific stuff, long-term stability, etc. Emulators are not good for testing ROMs. They are good for developing and testing applications, however. You may be able to test sashami, etc just fine with it.

Also the mobile virtualization thing is kind of silly...the use is very limited. The most practical thing I can see is having a dumphone OS for most purposes, then switching to a full-featured OS for web-browsing and other apps.

Really, what I think is that VMWare is struggling to find alternative business models, because the products that are currently being used with their virtualization software are starting to build in features with the same benefits of virtualization in for free (or they're just flat-out including virtualization ala Hyper-V, XenServer).

But really this is starting to get out of the scope of the thread. I am interested in trying it to see how it works now myself. UC Autorun and Sashami may work with an emulator...I haven't messed with the emulator enough to know for certain.

rab669 03-04-2009 03:00 PM
Re: *21 Feb* UPD 15: SSK 1.5M *8* OS Kitchen inc WM6.5 Build 21159 and OS 21015 ROM -
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by impudent1 (Post 752779)
I'm running exactly what you are, with only the selectable options differing. I have not had the same issue, so I have to ask the obvious, when you cooked your rom, did you make sure that BOTH battery icon options were not selected? Irregardless I would recommend recooking the rom and flashing the phone. 21015 has been pretty stable for most users.
I am not sure if i selected both. I will recook and retry.

thanks

Nimdock 03-04-2009 04:54 PM
Re: *21 Feb* UPD 15: SSK 1.5M *8* OS Kitchen inc WM6.5 Build 21159 and OS 21015 ROM -
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by rab669 (Post 753092)
I am not sure if i selected both. I will recook and retry.

thanks
I will ask you again. You may think it is irrelevant but it is not.

Is your carrier Sprint?


I ask you because I use Sprint and I have had similar issues when cooking with this kitchen from time to time. If it's not Sprint then just never mind.

DigitalAttic 03-04-2009 05:07 PM
Re: *21 Feb* UPD 15: SSK 1.5M *8* OS Kitchen inc WM6.5 Build 21159 and OS 21015 ROM -
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by zim2323 (Post 752991)
You gave an "answer" and asked a question that had nothing to do with my question.

What I'm trying to accomplish is just what I said the first time. I want to create a VIRTUAL environment to test in rather than reflashing the phone to test for each change. I've actually got the 6.1.4 SDK installed and testing SEVEN application with it right now. I can "hot dock" the virtual device and play DIRECTLY with it without screwing up my phone in the mean time.

Neither UC or Sashimi really have anything to do with the question other than this would make testing them easier.

The question wasn't why should I not use virtualization.

The question was and still is, has anybody tried to utilize the Windows Mobile SDK virtualization tools as a testing platform for testing new ROM's?

If was and dropped, what were the reasons? Maybe there are too many limitations on this. The mobile virtualization product that VMWare demo'd at Mobile World Conference really sparked this interest.

Thanks!

From the looks of it, the effort to do what you seek w/the MS Developer Tools is far too complex and time consuming for the average user. If you were interested in developing an application for commercial use, I would say go for it. On the other hand, if you are just a hard-core developer and want something to play with, go for it too. But my take on this is that it is not at all intended to be a test-bed platform in the way that flashing and UC/Sashimi provide. This is a tool for testing WM applications in a development environment.

Now VMware's MV is a very interesting piece of software, a mobile phone hypervisor. But the description they give isn't clear on whether a WM VM can be made using it, though it is alluded to; and that is basically-- IMHO-- what you are looking for, and that would be great to test with.

I have been using a set of tools to abstract the application and settings space from the WM OS so I can redeploy effortlessly to new WM ROMs: PM me if you are interested.

One last thing on WM Virtual.: I noticed Android was absent from the list of supported OS'es... hmmm.

TC - DA

Nimdock 03-04-2009 09:21 PM
Re: *21 Feb* UPD 15: SSK 1.5M *8* OS Kitchen inc WM6.5 Build 21159 and OS 21015 ROM -
 
Ok, since Scott is MIA I'm thinking maybe I should just jump and start breaking my phone, hehe.

impudent1 03-04-2009 09:39 PM
Re: *21 Feb* UPD 15: SSK 1.5M *8* OS Kitchen inc WM6.5 Build 21159 and OS 21015 ROM -
 
I think Scott's wife hired somebody with his ROM money (which goes to her paypal) and had his mouse hand broken.

Nimdock 03-04-2009 09:55 PM
Re: *21 Feb* UPD 15: SSK 1.5M *8* OS Kitchen inc WM6.5 Build 21159 and OS 21015 ROM -
 
Hehehe, I like that theory... But that that would mean I helped. :(

oldman 03-04-2009 10:10 PM
Re: *21 Feb* UPD 15: SSK 1.5M *8* OS Kitchen inc WM6.5 Build 21159 and OS 21015 ROM -
 
IMpudent: Check you PM

Bob

Billy_Bob 03-04-2009 11:05 PM
Re: *21 Feb* UPD 15: SSK 1.5M *8* OS Kitchen inc WM6.5 Build 21159 and OS 21015 ROM -
 
For the first time since loading my phone with SSK1.5 20764, I used my phone all day for various tasks and I must say what all of you already know - these ROMS are a vast improvement over the stock phone.

It finally functions as it should and is much more smooth than the stock phone. Previously there were all these pauses and stops when I switch tasks and hit buttons, now it is really smooth.

I know people will tell me how much better and faster the new ROMS are. But I just wanted to remind eveyone how bad the original was - you've probably forgotten because you've been using Scotts ROMS for so long.

Even the old ones ROCK!

I've got a date in the kitchen to cook up something new with 21015.

Thanks again guys - especially Scott!

jucytec 03-04-2009 11:32 PM
Re: *21 Feb* UPD 15: SSK 1.5M *8* OS Kitchen inc WM6.5 Build 21159 and OS 21015 ROM -
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by zim2323 (Post 752991)
You gave an "answer" and asked a question that had nothing to do with my question.

What I'm trying to accomplish is just what I said the first time. I want to create a VIRTUAL environment to test in rather than reflashing the phone to test for each change. I've actually got the 6.1.4 SDK installed and testing SEVEN application with it right now. I can "hot dock" the virtual device and play DIRECTLY with it without screwing up my phone in the mean time.

Neither UC or Sashimi really have anything to do with the question other than this would make testing them easier.

The question wasn't why should I not use virtualization.

The question was and still is, has anybody tried to utilize the Windows Mobile SDK virtualization tools as a testing platform for testing new ROM's?

If was and dropped, what were the reasons? Maybe there are too many limitations on this. The mobile virtualization product that VMWare demo'd at Mobile World Conference really sparked this interest.

Thanks!
I see what you are saying now! LoL I wasn't even close...

But as you already know running an instance of any OS via Virtual PC or VMWare will always have it's limitations. if you were to test you'll simply be emulating the OS through a window, and in Windows Mobile SDK's case, you'll be simply testing just the software side of things... Most of the harware components will be emulated, which may not actually test any hardware components on your windows mobile device.

My company does windows mobile development, and while we do recompile some of the applications to run on x86 Windows platform; we only test the recompiled app to spot out basic usability issues/GUI design issues. Qualifying the actual software has always happened on the device inately.

of course this is only my opinion and means nothing... :silent:

oldman 03-04-2009 11:33 PM
Re: *21 Feb* UPD 15: SSK 1.5M *8* OS Kitchen inc WM6.5 Build 21159 and OS 21015 ROM -
 
Ok Guys, I have a question. ActiveSync does not work. I do know how to flash from the SD card. The USB connection is also working if I enter Bootloader with the cable attached.

If I wanted to flash (without ActiveSync) from the PC...where do I put the nhb file so the Bootloader will see it? In the root directory of C:, or someplace else.

Thanks.
Bob

impudent1 03-05-2009 12:07 AM
Re: *21 Feb* UPD 15: SSK 1.5M *8* OS Kitchen inc WM6.5 Build 21159 and OS 21015 ROM -
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Billy_Bob (Post 753975)
For the first time since loading my phone with SSK1.5 20764, I used my phone all day for various tasks and I must say what all of you already know - these ROMS are a vast improvement over the stock phone.

It finally functions as it should and is much more smooth than the stock phone. Previously there were all these pauses and stops when I switch tasks and hit buttons, now it is really smooth.

I know people will tell me how much better and faster the new ROMS are. But I just wanted to remind eveyone how bad the original was - you've probably forgotten because you've been using Scotts ROMS for so long.

Even the old ones ROCK!

I've got a date in the kitchen to cook up something new with 21015.

Thanks again guys - especially Scott!
Just out of curiosity, did you use my website? If so, was it easy to follow?

DigitalAttic 03-05-2009 01:50 AM
Re: *21 Feb* UPD 15: SSK 1.5M *8* OS Kitchen inc WM6.5 Build 21159 and OS 21015 ROM -
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by oldman (Post 754028)
Ok Guys, I have a question. ActiveSync does not work. I do know how to flash from the SD card. The USB connection is also working if I enter Bootloader with the cable attached.

If I wanted to flash (without ActiveSync) from the PC...where do I put the nhb file so the Bootloader will see it? In the root directory of C:, or someplace else.

Thanks.
Bob
Can't happen w/o AS; SD only other option.

DigitalAttic 03-05-2009 01:52 AM
Re: *21 Feb* UPD 15: SSK 1.5M *8* OS Kitchen inc WM6.5 Build 21159 and OS 21015 ROM -
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by impudent1 (Post 754075)
Just out of curiosity, did you use my website? If so, was it easy to follow?
What website? U holding out on us? :scratch:

oldman 03-05-2009 02:41 AM
Re: *21 Feb* UPD 15: SSK 1.5M *8* OS Kitchen inc WM6.5 Build 21159 and OS 21015 ROM -
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by DigitalAttic (Post 754206)
Can't happen w/o AS; SD only other option.
Thanks, but I'm a little surprised. I would have thought that if it was placed in the root of the drive, it would act just like flashing from the SD card.

Bob

DigitalAttic 03-05-2009 03:06 AM
Re: *21 Feb* UPD 15: SSK 1.5M *8* OS Kitchen inc WM6.5 Build 21159 and OS 21015 ROM -
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by oldman (Post 754259)
Thanks, but I'm a little surprised. I would have thought that if it was placed in the root of the drive, it would act just like flashing from the SD card.

Bob
WM knows nothing about communication to your PC w/o AS, so the Bootloader can't receive messages from the PC to do anything with the ROM image. The reverse is not true-- your PC can see your WM device w/o AS, via USB drivers, but it only sees the SD card as a removable disk so to speak, same as an ordinary thumb-drive. The WM root, however, remains masked w/o AS to provide duplex communication to the PC via USB drivers.

QED - DA

zim2323 03-05-2009 09:20 AM
Re: *21 Feb* UPD 15: SSK 1.5M *8* OS Kitchen inc WM6.5 Build 21159 and OS 21015 ROM -
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jucytec (Post 754025)
I see what you are saying now! LoL I wasn't even close...

But as you already know running an instance of any OS via Virtual PC or VMWare will always have it's limitations. if you were to test you'll simply be emulating the OS through a window, and in Windows Mobile SDK's case, you'll be simply testing just the software side of things... Most of the harware components will be emulated, which may not actually test any hardware components on your windows mobile device.

My company does windows mobile development, and while we do recompile some of the applications to run on x86 Windows platform; we only test the recompiled app to spot out basic usability issues/GUI design issues. Qualifying the actual software has always happened on the device inately.

of course this is only my opinion and means nothing... :silent:

Thanks!

I finally did a Google search that found some information. I guess there's a guy at xda-developers.com that has got this partially working, even with custom ROM's. The biggest problem seems to be that they are limited to the default memory sizes with no way to match what we have.

zim2323 03-05-2009 09:28 AM
Re: *21 Feb* UPD 15: SSK 1.5M *8* OS Kitchen inc WM6.5 Build 21159 and OS 21015 ROM -
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by DigitalAttic (Post 753333)
From the looks of it, the effort to do what you seek w/the MS Developer Tools is far too complex and time consuming for the average user. If you were interested in developing an application for commercial use, I would say go for it. On the other hand, if you are just a hard-core developer and want something to play with, go for it too. But my take on this is that it is not at all intended to be a test-bed platform in the way that flashing and UC/Sashimi provide. This is a tool for testing WM applications in a development environment.

Now VMware's MV is a very interesting piece of software, a mobile phone hypervisor. But the description they give isn't clear on whether a WM VM can be made using it, though it is alluded to; and that is basically-- IMHO-- what you are looking for, and that would be great to test with.

I have been using a set of tools to abstract the application and settings space from the WM OS so I can redeploy effortlessly to new WM ROMs: PM me if you are interested.

One last thing on WM Virtual.: I noticed Android was absent from the list of supported OS'es... hmmm.

TC - DA


Thanks Digital!

Currently I am just looking for something to do BASIC tests of new ROM's and testing install scripts to see how they run. That in and of itself is "application testing". The biggest problem is that is pretty much impossible considering the memory limitations of the current SDK images.

That being said, it may just be impossible to do for now. I am a VMWare Workstation customer and have contacted them to see if can get on the beta team for the MV product.

FYI....I didn't see that Google/Android was at "Windows Mobile" World Conference, but the MV demo was of Windows and Android. =)

aldojr80 03-05-2009 09:43 AM
Re: *21 Feb* UPD 15: SSK 1.5M *8* OS Kitchen inc WM6.5 Build 21159 and OS 21015 ROM -
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by oldman (Post 754028)
Ok Guys, I have a question. ActiveSync does not work. I do know how to flash from the SD card. The USB connection is also working if I enter Bootloader with the cable attached.

If I wanted to flash (without ActiveSync) from the PC...where do I put the nhb file so the Bootloader will see it? In the root directory of C:, or someplace else.

Thanks.
Bob
Me still soo surprise people flash using activesync i get funny inside. Sd card method is they way to go and yes the root is where you put the file Raphimg.nbh. The best part is i have five different roms from ssk in my sd card ofcourse renamed like sskRAR or sskB2B you get it until i need to use it. But if your not happy with one in the middle of the day you can switch when your not home. Activesync= ](*,)

JWhipple 03-05-2009 09:46 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ColdBrew (Post 750486)
I used the B2B ROM this weekend as a tether for my laptop. But I noticed after a while that my phones battery was drained. It seems that it wasn't charging the battery while I was tethering. Anyone else notice this before?
Not quite in that scenario... I've noticed that on occasion while using my phone as GPS in the car that it stops charging even though the cable is seated well and the power cable is in the power socket very well.

impudent1 03-05-2009 09:51 AM
Re: *21 Feb* UPD 15: SSK 1.5M *8* OS Kitchen inc WM6.5 Build 21159 and OS 21015 ROM -
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by DigitalAttic (Post 754208)
What website? U holding out on us? :scratch:
Haaa, I'm not exactly holding out, I just don't want to go public with my test server. Since Scott went mia, and I was walking a few people through their first flashes, I put a temporary site up until Rob takes care of Scott's.

robp23 03-05-2009 10:47 AM
Re: *21 Feb* UPD 15: SSK 1.5M *8* OS Kitchen inc WM6.5 Build 21159 and OS 21015 ROM -
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by impudent1 (Post 754443)
Haaa, I'm not exactly holding out, I just don't want to go public with my test server. Since Scott went mia, and I was walking a few people through their first flashes, I put a temporary site up until Rob takes care of Scott's.

I'm getting there....... Work is slammed](*,)(which is good considering today's economy). Just some more scripting and php to finish up and I'll start transferring files. Once Scott is back from vacation(today I think), this thread will start popping again. I know hes got something in the works.:headbang:


Rob

zim2323 03-05-2009 11:06 AM
Re: *21 Feb* UPD 15: SSK 1.5M *8* OS Kitchen inc WM6.5 Build 21159 and OS 21015 ROM -
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by oldman (Post 754028)
Ok Guys, I have a question. ActiveSync does not work. I do know how to flash from the SD card. The USB connection is also working if I enter Bootloader with the cable attached.

If I wanted to flash (without ActiveSync) from the PC...where do I put the nhb file so the Bootloader will see it? In the root directory of C:, or someplace else.

Thanks.
Bob
My experience has been that you HAVE to create a partnership with the phone through ActiveSync. You can not just connect the phone without creating the partnership and get it to do the upgrade.

As long as I have been using WM phones, I never created partnerships after Exchange 2003 because I could sync everything over the air (including setup) without ever touching a computer. But since I've started flashing, I've noticed it's a requirement.

Maybe you're making the same mistake I did?

RONMAC 03-05-2009 11:15 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by zim2323 (Post 754545)
My experience has been that you HAVE to create a partnership with the phone through ActiveSync. You can not just connect the phone without creating the partnership and get it to do the upgrade.

As long as I have been using WM phones, I never created partnerships after Exchange 2003 because I could sync everything over the air (including setup) without ever touching a computer. But since I've started flashing, I've noticed it's a requirement.

Maybe you're making the same mistake I did?
I haven't had that experience with my flashing. I have flashed on three different PC's without creating the partnership since I am also backing up OTA. I have only run into an issue once and a reboot of the PC fixed the issue.

zim2323 03-05-2009 11:41 AM
Re: *21 Feb* UPD 15: SSK 1.5M *8* OS Kitchen inc WM6.5 Build 21159 and OS 21015 ROM -
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by RONMAC (Post 754558)
I haven't had that experience with my flashing. I have flashed on three different PC's without creating the partnership since I am also backing up OTA. I have only run into an issue once and a reboot of the PC fixed the issue.
I'm on Vista64. I can see the phone but unless I create a partnership the tools fail. What OS and AS version are you using?

tiyaga13 03-05-2009 12:07 PM
Re: *21 Feb* UPD 15: SSK 1.5M *8* OS Kitchen inc WM6.5 Build 21159 and OS 21015 ROM -
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by oldman (Post 754028)
Ok Guys, I have a question. ActiveSync does not work. I do know how to flash from the SD card. The USB connection is also working if I enter Bootloader with the cable attached.

If I wanted to flash (without ActiveSync) from the PC...where do I put the nhb file so the Bootloader will see it? In the root directory of C:, or someplace else.

Thanks.
Bob
I Just had problems with AS. tried to repair the install to see if that would work and nothing.

I know its not the phone or cable now because I installed AS onto another laptop,
then exported my Outlook info to a .pst file and copied that over also.

AS seen the mobile device and then we created a new partnership.
All is well with the phone now.

My "F*@!* HD is getting ready to be formatted with a fresh WXP SP2 install.

Tiyaga

RONMAC 03-05-2009 12:19 PM
Re: *21 Feb* UPD 15: SSK 1.5M *8* OS Kitchen inc WM6.5 Build 21159 and OS 21015 ROM -
 
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Originally Posted by zim2323 (Post 754592)
I'm on Vista64. I can see the phone but unless I create a partnership the tools fail. What OS and AS version are you using?
That would explain it. I am using XP with AS 4.5.

joem1211 03-05-2009 12:26 PM
Re: *21 Feb* UPD 15: SSK 1.5M *8* OS Kitchen inc WM6.5 Build 21159 and OS 21015 ROM -
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by impudent1 (Post 752514)
I personally want to apologize for this question not being answered yet. Strange posted a link that has proven to be beneficial to everyone who uses s2u2.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=358187

One more thing to note, If you cooked s2u2 into Scott's rom, you are running an older version (1.44). The current version is S2U2 1.5d. It is more stable, a lot of bugs have been fixed, and it can be located here:

http://freewareppc.com/utilities/s2u2.shtml

Here is the catch, you need to recook your rom without 1.44 in it in order to get 1.5d to work from what I understand. s2u2 has been evolving so fast, I'd never cook it into the ROM FYI.
Thanks for the info,
as a semi noob, I'm comfrtable flashing roms, but cooking...not so much. Is there a step by step guide to flashing when using a kitchen. I basically want to stay with 21015 but remove s2u2. Help

Thanks in advance

Kamokazi 03-05-2009 12:34 PM
Re: *21 Feb* UPD 15: SSK 1.5M *8* OS Kitchen inc WM6.5 Build 21159 and OS 21015 ROM -
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by RONMAC (Post 754668)
That would explain it. I am using XP with AS 4.5.
I am using Vista and WMDC, and I almost lways pick the option "Connect device without creating a partnership" and I flash just fine.

Kamokazi 03-05-2009 12:36 PM
Re: *21 Feb* UPD 15: SSK 1.5M *8* OS Kitchen inc WM6.5 Build 21159 and OS 21015 ROM -
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by joem1211 (Post 754683)
Thanks for the info,
as a semi noob, I'm comfrtable flashing roms, but cooking...not so much. Is there a step by step guide to flashing when using a kitchen. I basically want to stay with 21015 but remove s2u2. Help

Thanks in advance
Just download the kitchen and run it..it's very easy and is in step-by-step fashion already...the first couple posts in this thread explain it pretty well too.

The only tricky part is when you try to play with the kitchen by adding your own OEMs and stuf...and even then it's relatively straight-forward.


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