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[scrosler]

Originally Posted by jakdillard

you are reading the rgu files don't go by that .... here is the catch with encryption it is broke in most builds all most all .... the key to trimming xip is to remove the modules you want out and the move the remaining modules to dissolve the unused space for example this is a full xip:

hope this helps

Ok, all of a sudden this is starting to make sense. So an Xicute in Place is basically just that... You can go in, modify to free up MEM, and how does tweaking and removing modulse make it faster? This XIP is notable quicker than the others that i have used? How can that be just by removing things?

Sorry if I sound noob!

Thanks again JD. We in the VZW community greatly appreciate any and all help you give us!

[lllboredlll]

Originally Posted by scrosler

Thanks bored! I'l have to phrase this carefully so bear with me...

No one will support the XV6850 other than a very small gourp of. Our GPS is not the standard that the rest of you have. We got SCREWED! Thats all there is to it.

I wish up and downt he PPC kitchen would support the GPS function on our phone. But yeah thanks bored! Thanks for all that you did with our GPS!

Your just awesome!

It's not over yet I got one more trick up my sleeve for us.

[jakdillard]

Originally Posted by scrosler

Ok, all of a sudden this is starting to make sense. So an Xicute in Place is basically just that... You can go in, modify to free up MEM, and how does tweaking and removing modulse make it faster? This XIP is notable quicker than the others that i have used? How can that be just by removing things?

Sorry if I sound noob!

Thanks again JD. We in the VZW community greatly appreciate any and all help you give us!

well my rom will not boot on a vzw tp (for now) my guess is that this has something to do with two modules I moved into imgfs (ddi.dll and gxdma.dll) so with the vzw tp YOU will have to do a trial and error thing as far as speeding up a rom THERE IS NOTHING THAT SPEEDS UP THE ROM OUTSIDE OF PAGEPOOL HACKING you can move modules out to downsize and gain some not alot in most cases in ram and gain in rom .... there are shorcuts to porting xip honestly its not rocket science like some like to make it out to be ...... lets say you have a have a Official GSM TP ROM ... cut the xip section from the rom decompile it repackage and from your Original CDMA xip move the OEMkernal to the new xip reallocate look for the overlapping modules (may be one or two) correct and BAM new xip .... or lets say you have a mogul and you want to port the updated official kaiser os to it well in this case just move the MSXIPKernal to the mogul OEMKernal reallocate then WOW xip ported .... xip porting can be simple for those that just want the numbers to match but more complicated for those who want performance its all in what you want

[scrosler]

Originally Posted by lllboredlll

It's not over yet I got one more trick up my sleeve for us.

BRING IT!

[FormerPalmOS]

Originally Posted by mikee4fun

Heh, whats more ironic is I know a lot of people who use wmo without the locking feature. So if you lose your phone there is no point to encryption. All the person has to do if they find your phone you have is connect it to a computer and copy the storage card data over. Also I could be wrong but if you flash with this xip and then go to another rom all your data is hosed. This happened before when no2chem was releasing roms and then he stripped the encryption feature.

All true.

Well here's my problem. I do have sensitive data I keep on the phone. I keep it on the storage card because it can be big. True if I lose the phone with the card intact and no phone password, anyone can get at it. But if I have a phone password, that blocks that route. Storage card encryption prevents access to the data if the card is removed from the password-protected phone. Only problem is that the phone power-up password breaks the handy screen/key lock feature in newer SYS (works fine in older ones) - well, more correctly it works but has to be called differently. Currently only way to lock the screen is with the Today plug-in which can't be turned on if using TF3D... Sorry to go off on a tangent, but you asked...

[jakdillard]

Originally Posted by FormerPalmOS

All true.

Well here's my problem. I do have sensitive data I keep on the phone. I keep it on the storage card because it can be big. True if I lose the phone with the card intact and no phone password, anyone can get at it. But if I have a phone password, that blocks that route. Storage card encryption prevents access to the data if the card is removed from the password-protected phone. Only problem is that the phone power-up password breaks the handy screen/key lock feature in newer SYS (works fine in older ones) - well, more correctly it works but has to be called differently. Currently only way to lock the screen is with the Today plug-in which can't be turned on if using TF3D... Sorry to go off on a tangent, but you asked...

or they find the phone join this site and xda learn how to hard reset then go from there

[FormerPalmOS]

Originally Posted by jakdillard

well my rom will not boot on a vzw tp (for now) my guess is that this has something to do with two modules I moved into imgfs (ddi.dll and gxdma.dll) so with the vzw tp YOU will have to do a trial and error thing as far as speeding up a rom THERE IS NOTHING THAT SPEEDS UP THE ROM OUTSIDE OF PAGEPOOL HACKING you can move modules out to downsize and gain some not alot in most cases in ram and gain in rom .... there are shorcuts to porting xip honestly its not rocket science like some like to make it out to be ...... lets say you have a have a Official GSM TP ROM ... cut the xip section from the rom decompile it repackage and from your Original CDMA xip move the OEMkernal to the new xip reallocate look for the overlapping modules (may be one or two) correct and BAM new xip .... or lets say you have a mogul and you want to port the updated official kaiser os to it well in this case just move the MSXIPKernal to the mogul OEMKernal reallocate then WOW xip ported .... xip porting can be simple for those that just want the numbers to match but more complicated for those who want performance its all in what you want

First, I have to disagree that pagepool is the only thing that speeds up a ROM. I do agree that it is the biggest bang for the buck. But a correctly implemented file filter cache does seem to be helping. Then there's making modules out of static DLLs and EXEs (well, speeds up load but not execute).

And the XIP port I did was basically exactly as you describe, however there were more than one or two modules overlapping, and quite a bit of free space - it took a lot of time to remove the overlap and decompress out the free space. In the end I don't think it was worth it - not that much was gained in terms of recovered RAM. BTW - I did remove the debug drivers and other items that the experts remove - just kept mencfilt.dll and cachefilt.dll.

My XIP map attached so you can see what is left and where, if interested.

[FormerPalmOS]

Originally Posted by jakdillard

or they find the phone join this site and xda learn how to hard reset then go from there

Hard reset generates a new encryption key - the previous one used to encrypt the card is lost. Been there - done that by accident and learned the hard way. So did Scott

[gguruusa]

Originally Posted by scrosler

Anwyas, I love teh PPC Kitchen. I do. BUT it does not fulfill an XV6850 users needs. Sorry there MOD and seniro level people. It doesnt have the correct GPS drivers to use with VZ Nav. Yes, you can scoff but lot of people use VZ Nav, its all we have witout hacking PRI. Whcih of course I do recomend.

Secondly, hjave you used GPS on the PPC Kithen even wth a hacked PRI on a Verizon XV6850? If so can you post the ROM as I was unsucsul getting GPS locks. Flashed to my kitchen and ROM and had no issues.

Has the kitchen been updated wtih this? If so I will play around. IM kitchen nuetral, really. I juist found that the PPC K didint fulfill my needs. Which is why, myself, bored and Former, we worked togetther for the last month to achieve things like this.

You do know you can patch up any kitchen to work, right? It can be done easiest, however using PPCkitchen.

You know we can put a spin on things too.... Humor me on this one.....

I can say to GGURU, You dont need the PPC K if you use a bepe style kitchen. ehhh... Its all choice. Thats all it is, choice. If we limit oursleves to one choice then thats all we have.... Once choice! Doesnt sound very flexible when we do that now does it? Isnt this borad about learning and choices.
Choices to leave the stock ROM, choices to post your work? Comeon guys, lets all get along, stop realizing that the PPC K is NOT FOR EVERYONE.

ok, I've "stopped realizing that the PPCK is NOT FOR EVERYONE". Now I'm onto it IS for everyone.

I still dont know why some senior members come in stifle innovation and progress. You may disagree and that is your choice. This is our choice.

lol - You realize that you are trying to argue in favor of using tools that even the author acknowledges as being antiquated? Essentially, you're arguing that using ancient versions of software is "innovative and progressive". Nice logic.

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Back to the thread subject, you guys completely lost me in your xip discussion, and if I'm confused I'm sure everyone else is too.

Things are taken out of xip for two reasons: not enough xip space allocated (ram problem), or, xip partition isn't sized large enough (rom problem). Both are resizeable, but it's just plain easier to work within the existing layout than restructure stuff - so that's what most people do. Most of the older tools don't react well to non-standard layouts, anyway.

Things execute faster when they are in XIP form because they don't have to be rebased on load (rebasing is where you change all the jump tables to reflect where the module was actually loaded in memory). They also only load once (obviously, since they only load at a single fixed address). Unfortunately, nothing is free - not everything is pure and reentrant (which you must be to work right in xip form), and xip modules aren't unloadable - they permanently consume resources.

[gguruusa]

Originally Posted by jakdillard

there are shorcuts to porting xip honestly its not rocket science like some like to make it out to be ......

Ding. Exactly why I suggest everyone use the same one.