How to Build a ROM so it displays your name

[gguruusa]

Originally Posted by indagroove

I have been unable to use PPCKitchen in the past when I wasn't connectd to the internet, when trying to log in with my user/pass. Maybe this has changed.

changed a long, long time ago. Of course, there could be other issues at play, too.

If I use my own oem base and someone else's ROM and SYS's how do I use them with PPCKitchen? Do I just make a zip file of each of the three packages, and edit the selection txt document. I thought in the past I saw like 5 different elements (drivers, oems, base, rom, sys, etc..) do these need to be put together in a specific way to be reognized and built by PPCKitchen, or can I just do OEM/SYS/ROM like Bepe?

no need to zip anything. Your question doesn't make any sense, however. The ROM, SYS, and OEM folders ARE the base (plus XIP). Ignore how ppck kitchens are released - you don't need anything that complicated. All you need is a .txt file (the project file) that looks something like this:

SelectionsVersion=.90.04
RomDir=kitchens\ROM
ModuleDir=kitchens\SYS
ModuleDir=kitchens\OEM
OutputDir=Temp

You'll have to tell it what device and such so it knows how to assemble the files, but you can do that from the drop downs within buildos.

If you're truly lazy, put your bepe environement in c:\program files\ppkitchen.org\buildos and run buildos (no need to even create a txt file then, though I highly suggest the first appoach).

I have looked briefly at the new Bepe, and it doesn't look that tricky.

It's not so complicated to people who are familiar with kitchens, cmd line environments, .bat files, and have an inkling of text substitution/pattern matching. Wickedly complex to everyone else.

Honestly, I guess I am ignorant, so I use Bepe's old tools because I know how to make things work with them.

Fair enough. You really should update to something better, however. You'll have more time to enjoy life.

There's lots of information about Bepe's old tools, but not so much on PPCKitchen, unless you are referring to your previous tutorial in this post:

straight and to the point, wasn't it Take a look at most of what you read - aside from the put OEM/SYS/ROM here, the rest is all about quirks or applies to all bases regardless of tool used (no reason to restate that stuff).

Oh, and BTW, why don't you sticky Calcu's kitchen thread, but you sticky yours and Tobey's? Calcu's kitchen is quite nice. Oh, that's right -- old Bepe.

Tobey's is stickied? Didn't even know he released his. Isn't Tobey's thread on how to make a kitchen? That's stickied because it is in the form of a tutorial on a subject many are interested in. As a general rule, non-community projects aren't stickied. PPCkitchen's bases are stickied because they are by much of the staff here at ppcgeeks and have a large community involvement in their development. As a result, they happen to be ultra clean, expertly done, nearly stock bases. Perfect for people to use as a starting point, with more optional goodies than you can shake a stick at. Calcu's kitchen may be "nice", but the fact of the matter is that kitchens and roms made by individuals fall into the category of "here today, gone tomorrow" - with "tomorrow" being nearly literal.

[gguruusa]

Originally Posted by rstoyguy

Old tools? How come I enjoy the old tools so much???

because they give you the illusion of being closer to the action, and you're a nuts and bolts kind of guy?
you like Ctrl-C better than a stop button?
because you're a masochist?
Most likely because it's what you learned first.

The only issue I have is if I build too big, it generates a nbh that is around 108kb.... I think the max size I've built sucessfully is around 136mb nbh. Any bigger, it won't build right. I may have to look into the ppckitchen again next week.

The old tools weren't designed to create larger than 128MB CE partitions. The really old tools, even less. A simple patch will turn it into a 256MB version, but some people will need more RAM in their PC to use that.

BTW, it's not that you can't get the job done with the old tools, it just takes longer because there are too many quirks to get it right the first (or the tenth) build.

[indagroove]

Originally Posted by gguruusa

Tobey's is stickied? Didn't even know he released his. Isn't Tobey's thread on how to make a kitchen? That's stickied because it is in the form of a tutorial on a subject many are interested in. As a general rule, non-community projects aren't stickied. PPCkitchen's bases are stickied because they are by much of the staff here at ppcgeeks and have a large community involvement in their development. As a result, they happen to be ultra clean, expertly done, nearly stock bases. Perfect for people to use as a starting point, with more optional goodies than you can shake a stick at.

Although the thread title may make it look like it is a general thread on how to use kitchens, the first line in his thread clearly says:

Originally Posted by tobeychris

This is a basic Kitchen tutorial using the GF/TC Kitchen.

Originally Posted by gguruusa

Calcu's kitchen may be "nice", but the fact of the matter is that kitchens and roms made by individuals fall into the category of "here today, gone tomorrow" - with "tomorrow" being nearly literal.

Have you even looked at Calcu's kitchen? It has al the tools you need for rom building, including xip porting and insertion. Regardless of the base contect being updated in the future or not, the tools are all there and quite useful. Old Bepe or not, Calcu's kitchen rocks.

Thanks for the info on using a non-PCKitchen base with PPCKitchen. That's quite helpful.

[gguruusa]

Originally Posted by indagroove

Although the thread title may make it look like it is a general thread on how to use kitchens, the first line in his thread clearly says:

Exactly. A kitchen tutorial. I haven't read his thread to know if that's what it is now, but that's what it started as.

Have you even looked at Calcu's kitchen?

No. Do you really think it's going to interest me?

It has al the tools you need for rom building, including xip porting and insertion.

whoopee. The tools are pretty easy to find. 90% of them are in every kitchen. Heck, they're probably in ppckitchen.

Regardless of the base contect being updated in the future or not, the tools are all there and quite useful. Old Bepe or not, Calcu's kitchen rocks.

Bepe's old kitchen may rock your world, but I'll wager the newer kitchens rock it more.

[rstoyguy]

Originally Posted by gguruusa

The tools are pretty easy to find. 90% of them are in every kitchen. Heck, they're probably in ppckitchen.

Ya'all continue, I just had an urge to say "yep." to the above statement...

[tobeychris]

+1, except ervius's xipporterEx, but less than 1% of people would know how to use it, and 95% of those people probably know how to do so without it, or have the tool without the need of a cli to get them there...

If you like all your stuff in one place, that's cool, if you don't, that's cool too.

[Drumrintheline]

Originally Posted by indagroove

..or they like to roll "old school".

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! Thats a BA response.

[gguruusa]

Originally Posted by Drumrintheline

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! Thats a BA response.

Unfortunately, it's usually silly in the context of software.

[rockspeoplesfaces]

Originally Posted by indagroove

I have a basic diamond rom building from scratch tutorial planned for this forum. When I get time, if will give you all the basic tools and information. Hopefully in the next week or two..

has this tutorial been done? if so, could you post a link?

[indagroove]

Originally Posted by rockspeoplesfaces

has this tutorial been done? if so, could you post a link?

..back a few pages of this thread:

Originally Posted by indagroove

Well, I didn't realize that rstoyguy has already done it here:

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=25529

Check out his tutorial -- it's pretty much what I would have said anyways.