Sprint forcing premium data on ALL SMARTPHONES

[BlackDynamite]

Originally Posted by AZTECHKA

The fact for me is that Sprint offers the best plan for ME.
I'm sticking with them.
p.

And that's fine. Everyone will and should go with what they want. But when I see people claiming that it's a fact that Sprint's 4G is faster, cheaper, better coverage than everyone else's, that's when I disagree.

[boredandtattooed]

Prohibited Network Uses. To ensure the activities of some users do not impair the ability of our customers to have access to reliable services provided at reasonable costs, you may not use our services in a manner that is unlawful, infringes on intellectual property rights, or harms or unduly interferes with the use of Sprint's network or systems. Sprint reserves the right, without notice or limitation, to limit data throughput speeds or quantities or to deny, terminate, end, modify, disconnect, or suspend service if an individual engages in any of the prohibited voice or data uses detailed below or if Sprint, in its sole discretion, determines action is necessary to protect its wireless networks from harm or degradation. Examples of prohibited voice uses: Sprint voice services are provided solely for live dialogue between, and initiated by, individuals for personal use and as otherwise described in this policy. Sprint services may not be used for any other purposes, including, but not limited to: monitoring services, transmission of broadcasts, transmission of recorded material, telemarketing, autodialed calls, other commercial uses, or other connections that do not consist of uninterrupted live dialogue between individuals. Examples of prohibited data uses: Sprint data services are provided solely for purposes of web surfing, sending and receiving email, photographs and other similar messaging activities, and the non-continuous streaming of videos, downloading of files or on line gaming. Our data services may not be used: (i) to generate excessive amounts of Internet traffic through the continuous, unattended streaming, downloading or uploading of videos or other files or to operate hosting services including, but not limited to, web or gaming hosting; (ii) to maintain continuous active network connections to the Internet such as through a web camera or machine-to-machine connections that do not involve active participation by a person; (iii) to disrupt email use by others using automated or manual routines, including, but not limited to "auto-responders" or cancel bots or other similar routines; (iv) to transmit or facilitate any unsolicited or unauthorized advertising, telemarketing, promotional materials, "junk mail", unsolicited commercial or bulk email, or fax; (v) for activities adversely affecting the ability of other people or systems to use either Sprint's wireless services or other parties' Internet-based resources, including, but not limited to, "denial of service" (DoS) attacks against another network host or individual user; (vi) for an activity that connects any device to Personal Computers (including without limitation, laptops), or other equipment for the purpose of transmitting wireless data over the network (unless customer is using a plan designated for such usage); or (vi) for any other reason that, in our sole discretion violates our policy of providing service for individual use. Unlimited Use Plans. If you subscribe to rate plans, services or features that are described as unlimited, you should be aware that such "unlimited" plans are subject to these Sprint Prohibited Network Uses.



Theres nothing about "when you reach a limit" or anything like that.. yes it does say they "may" do it... the have to say that byb law so they dont get sued should the EVER do it...

Luckily for this 100GB/month abuser, its says "Unattended" and " does not involve active participation... so Im not even doing anything to violate any rules even lmao and to whoever asked, No, ive never been warned, scolded, emailed, letter-headed, nothing by SPrint.. hit 10yrs this summer been tethering since the Mogul


**and to be fair, i have to admit this: Yes Black, you did post up the rates before I did, my bad**

[AZTECHKA]

Ok... Now... Group hug.
p.

[BlackDynamite]

Originally Posted by boredandtattooed

Sprint reserves the right, without notice or limitation, to limit data throughput speeds or quantities or to deny, terminate, end, modify, disconnect, or suspend service if an individual engages in any of the prohibited voice or data uses detailed below or if Sprint, in its sole discretion, determines action is necessary to protect its wireless networks from harm or degradation.


[/I]Theres nothing about "when you reach a limit" or anything like that.. yes it does say they "may" do it... the have to say that byb law so they dont get sued should the EVER do it..

Luckily for this 100GB/month abuser, its says "Unattended" and " does not involve active participation... so Im not even doing anything to violate any rules even lmao and to whoever asked, No, ive never been warned, scolded, emailed, letter-headed, nothing by SPrint.. hit 10yrs this summer been tethering since the Mogul


**and to be fair, i have to admit this: Yes Black, you did post up the rates before I did, my bad**

Well the fact of the matter is both Sprint and T-Mobile say they can if they want to, neither of them do it consistently. T-Mobile lists a 5GB limit (I know plenty of people that go over without getting throttled), Sprint just says they will do it to anyone they want if they feel they are abusing the service, putting too much traffic on the network, degrading the network for other users, etc.

Again, nobody here personally knows anyone that has actually had either carrier throttle them. People are just blasting T-Mobile for something Sprint has had all along.

Don't believe me?
http://www.intomobile.com/2010/06/11...wireless-data/

http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r250...tling-Arrived-

[yankees45us]

Originally Posted by BlackDynamite

T-Mobile doesn't automatically throttle everyone at 5 gigs either. They just put in the fine print that they can, just like Sprint puts in the fine print that they can too. Neither one of us personally know anyone that has had it happen to them on either carrier.

And for the record (again) I have an Evo. Everyone assumes that since I don't bow and praise Sprint in every imaginable way that I must not have Sprint.

The fact is, in my area, I have at least decent coverage from all the carriers. So any of the carriers would work for me. When I see someone say something like "it's a fact that Sprint is cheaper, faster, and has better 4G coverage than everyone else" I will set the record straight.

The fine print is completely different than what tmo is doing. I guess I'm not speaking clearly. What I am saying is that all companies have a policy against abusers but tmo on top of the abusers rule also has a clear policy that they let you know when you go over 5gig they throttle. Sprints policy of 5 gig only applies to aircards. Phones do not have a cap. Thats all im saying. But hey, you say they dont throttle most of the time. Thats a good thing for you. At least I dont ever have to worry about it on sprint, for now at least.

[quick99si]

Originally Posted by BlackDynamite

So, in short, no, SERO customers do not have to pay the $10 fee. They just have to switch to a different plan that costs $10 or $20 more than their current SERO plan.

LOL, okay...

SERO is totally exempt from the new fees and changes.

Russ McGuire:

"I’ve been told several times by the folks that manage the employee plans, there’s no change to the definitions/pricing for SERO and SERO Premium, so a smartphone that today doesn’t require upgrading to SERO Premium, won’t require upgrading to SERO Premium as a result of this change and won’t bear a Premium Data charge."

"As I’ve said, the definition of what requires SERO Premium isn’t changing. Activating a Touch Pro 2 or Touch Diamond will not force you onto the SERO Premium plan."

"The simple answer - what I should’ve said all along - is that the SERO plans aren’t changing from what was rolled out last fall."

[BlackDynamite]

Originally Posted by yankees45us

The fine print is completely different than what tmo is doing. I guess I'm not speaking clearly. What I am saying is that all companies have a policy against abusers but tmo on top of the abusers rule also has a clear policy that they let you know when you go over 5gig they throttle. Sprints policy of 5 gig only applies to aircards. Phones do not have a cap. Thats all im saying. But hey, you say they dont throttle most of the time. Thats a good thing for you. At least I dont ever have to worry about it on sprint, for now at least.

T-Mobile's policy is n the fine print. Sprint's policy is also in the fine print. T-Mobile spells out what they consider abuse to be. Sprint says they will determine abuse on a case by case basis.

By the way, T-Mobile not throttling is just as good for you as it is for me. I preordered my Evo and had it in my hands first thing in the morning on launch day.

It's hilarious how everyone assumes I don't have Sprint just because I don't say they are superior in every imaginable way to every other carrier. All carriers have their advantages and disadvantages. Once all the fanboys realize this, then we'll have true competition between the carriers that will benefit all of us.

[BlackDynamite]

Originally Posted by quick99si

SERO is totally exempt from the new fees and changes.

Russ McGuire:

"I’ve been told several times by the folks that manage the employee plans, there’s no change to the definitions/pricing for SERO and SERO Premium, so a smartphone that today doesn’t require upgrading to SERO Premium, won’t require upgrading to SERO Premium as a result of this change and won’t bear a Premium Data charge."

"As I’ve said, the definition of what requires SERO Premium isn’t changing. Activating a Touch Pro 2 or Touch Diamond will not force you onto the SERO Premium plan."

"The simple answer - what I should’ve said all along - is that the SERO plans aren’t changing from what was rolled out last fall."

No new smartphones work on SERO though. As I said, if you're happy with old school Windows Mobile, you don't have anything to worry about on SERO. If you want a decent smartphone, you have to pay the extra cost.

[gullzway]

Originally Posted by BlackDynamite

No new smartphones work on SERO though. As I said, if you're happy with old school Windows Mobile, you don't have anything to worry about on SERO. If you want a decent smartphone, you have to pay the extra cost.

My Epic works fine on SERO!

Sent from an Epic 3G on SERO

[BlackDynamite]

Originally Posted by gullzway

My Epic works fine on SERO!

Sent from an Epic 3G on SERO

Old school SERO or with the new fees?

If you got an Epic to work on a $30 SERO plan, please tell how.