I may have found out why Andriod suks the living daylights out of the battery...

[boredandtattooed]

Originally Posted by robertkmagill

But, For some reason, The usb port on the phone Will
output 5v during bootup for a second or two.

first did you make the video? cuz i mightve missed the link to see a more visual explination.. though im pretty sure i more than understand..

However, look at what i quoted out of your message.. Thats the correct info right?? this is what the threads about?

Is it odd that, it does that.. maybe.. do other elctronics do this sort of thing though?? dont most electronic devices boot all process when powering on.. almost like a systems check of sorts... isnt this sort of thing what Tegra Nevidia(or whatever its called) trying to change that?? ZERO power.. unless a spefici process is being called then only will power be increased.. have you seen the youtube videos?? like 30+ days without a charge on your cell phone, laptop, netbook whatever.. its ZERO power processors until the absolute last possible second of needing it.. link below.. but Nevidia Processors are the step PAST snapdragon and ATOM as youll see in the vid... maybe im over thinking.. but ill bet anything running These chips, doesnt power up everything on a boot because its against is design model.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWqlK...eature=related IE - its not gonna send temporary power to a usb port not in use

and Isnt just like all your Dashboard indicator lights turning on when you start your car up??? that LED behind your faceplate on your dash just gets power for those few seconds.. and thats it.. its not constantly pulling battery power.. maybe thats because fuses are involved though.. im not an electrician by any means.. so really, im just trying to understand things better..

Last thing i promise lol.. again referring to the part i quoted from your post... this is ONLY happening when you turn it on right?? I dont think ive EVER had to soft rset Xandroid on my device.. sure i might have to force close things and re-open them.. but ive never had to reboot android(soft rest it).. NEVER.if that was a common thing with Zandroid, id never use it then... so i mean how many times a day are you booting up android to you really think this has any effect on your device what so ever??

ok.. sorry its lengthy.. lol

[robertkmagill]

What i am trying to say is that the phone will output power
to the usb port 100% of the time that Andriod is running.
I gotta dig up an old phone to make a video of that....
But work comes first :P

[mikezpc]

never mind.
good luck guys

[robertkmagill]

I think you are missing my point....
In order for the USB port to be putting out 5v,
You have to have an I.C. turned on. THAT is what
sucks down the power..

[mrrogers1]

Originally Posted by robertkmagill

What i am trying to say is that the phone will output power
to the usb port 100% of the time that Andriod is running.
I gotta dig up an old phone to make a video of that....
But work comes first :P

Why waste your time making a video.... if someone has a TP2 they should have the charger with back-lit HTC logo, right, everyone has one of those. If someone doesn't understand what is going on, they just need to run Android and plug the phone into a wall charger without plugging the charger into the wall.

I'm confused as to why people don't understand what you are saying.

[robertkmagill]

iono? me is confooosed too

[Kane3162]

Originally Posted by mrrogers1

Why waste your time making a video.... if someone has a TP2 they should have the charger with back-lit HTC logo, right, everyone has one of those. If someone doesn't understand what is going on, they just need to run Android and plug the phone into a wall charger without plugging the charger into the wall.

I'm confused as to why people don't understand what you are saying.

WHAT A TRIP... that is FUNNY! but also serious... thats a total drain on power (ever done tethering with USB charging off... a good example as well of the energy being consumed by the speed the battery dies)

Hopefully I can make this simple for those still confused, but it only works if you have the HTC charger that has the backlit HTC logo built into the charger!!!:

1: Take HTC Charger in one hand
2: TP2 with Android running in the other
3: Plug in the USB charging/data cable between the 2 *
4: Notice the HTC backlit logo being lit up
5: Realize that the charger isnt plugged into the wall, BUT the logo is STILL LIT UP!!!**

This most definitely could cause a few things: Inability/problems to charging, Inability to exchange data (whats that jim? data is power!? -google it), and of course, Terrible Battery life!!!



*No, you dont have to set one down to do this unless you have really small hands... or are terrible with your hands... in which case why do you have a TP2 with the keyboard for your terrible hands... (coordination anyone?)
**IE power is flowing from the TP2 to the Charger (Phone ---> Charger) instead of the way its supposed to go, which is from the Charger TO the TP2 (Phone <--- Charger)...



If that doesn't help the confusion... then i guess a video with extra... "special" care taken to "explain" is needed... or a bat...

[scuzzo7]

Good evening gents!

I think I can shed some light on why the device is capable of outputting 5v.

Accessories, more worryingly, accessories that dont work now. I'm speaking of the video-out cable. I'm quite sure that when that thing works under winmo, a lot of extra power is consumed to generate a proper image, output it to the port and maybe even require some active components in the cable (afaik it's always got a little box) to get the signal up to spec. That would explain the 5v and the battery drain, even though there's nothing coming out, thats no proof that that part of the controller isn't active and waiting for data-food.

Much love, the scuzzer, who has registered just for this post

[bdurst08]

Originally Posted by mrrogers1

Why waste your time making a video.... if someone has a TP2 they should have the charger with back-lit HTC logo, right, everyone has one of those. If someone doesn't understand what is going on, they just need to run Android and plug the phone into a wall charger without plugging the charger into the wall.

I'm confused as to why people don't understand what you are saying.

This is an interesting observation. hopefully it something that can be worked out.

Some people need things to be explained cuz they do not like to think that hard for themselves.

Originally Posted by Kane3162

WHAT A TRIP... that is FUNNY! but also serious... thats a total drain on power (ever done tethering with USB charging off... a good example as well of the energy being consumed by the speed the battery dies)

Hopefully I can make this simple for those still confused, but it only works if you have the HTC charger that has the backlit HTC logo built into the charger!!!:

1: Take HTC Charger in one hand
2: TP2 with Android running in the other
3: Plug in the USB charging/data cable between the 2 *
4: Notice the HTC backlit logo being lit up
5: Realize that the charger isnt plugged into the wall, BUT the logo is STILL LIT UP!!!**

This most definitely could cause a few things: Inability/problems to charging, Inability to exchange data (whats that jim? data is power!? -google it), and of course, Terrible Battery life!!!

*No, you dont have to set one down to do this unless you have really small hands... or are terrible with your hands... in which case why do you have a TP2 with the keyboard for your terrible hands... (coordination anyone?)
**IE power is flowing from the TP2 to the Charger (Phone ---> Charger) instead of the way its supposed to go, which is from the Charger TO the TP2 (Phone <--- Charger)...

If that doesn't help the confusion... then i guess a video with extra... "special" care taken to "explain" is needed... or a bat...

Well said Kane!!!=D> That definately puts it into laymens terms.

[ooxteme]

well if what being said is true could this also possibly be why the sound isnt working? the phone thinking something is there that isnt like a usb audio cable?????