How to make windows start menu and Programs Tab coexist?

oldgarfield · #1 (**permalink**) 01-23-2010, 05:17 PM

Updates: With SK Shortcut Manger and the method provided in the XDA link, Now creating a folder on Programs Tab takes less than a minute.

Hi,

I have tried many methods in stock Sprint ROM. It seems that you either have Windows Start Menu (old style) or Manila Start Menu (Programs Tab). You cannot have both.

In 6.5 ROM, however, you can have both. (When you click Start, you get the Windows Start Menu). When you slide the tabs, you get Program Tabs) Is there any way to make 6.1 to have both?

Thanks!

msh441 · #2 (**permalink**) 01-23-2010, 05:48 PM

I might be misunderstanding what you're asking.

With my Verizon phone, under both 6.1 and 6.5, if you enabled the adiitional HTC "Programs" tab ("My Application in Sense 2.1), you automaticlly got the stock windows start menue when you press the start button (either a colum of program icons in 6.1, or the honeycomb icons in 6.5).

Either the Sprint ROM is different, or your looking to be able to choose one or the other while having the programs tab?

krnfrk6663 · #3 (**permalink**) 01-23-2010, 05:58 PM

He wants the start and the quickmenu. I mean quick menu, and the programs tab.. I think. lol

oldgarfield · #4 (**permalink**) 01-23-2010, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by msh441

I might be misunderstanding what you're asking.

With my Verizon phone, under both 6.1 and 6.5, if you enabled the adiitional HTC "Programs" tab ("My Application in Sense 2.1), you automaticlly got the stock windows start menue when you press the start button (either a colum of program icons in 6.1, or the honeycomb icons in 6.5).

Either the Sprint ROM is different, or your looking to be able to choose one or the other while having the programs tab?

I don't like the 1 column program icons or even 4 column program icons (applying the patch) because I have too many programs and I would like to create folders to organize them into different categories, like what came with MightyROM.

oldgarfield · #5 (**permalink**) 01-23-2010, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by krnfrk6663

He wants the start and the quickmenu. I mean quick menu, and the programs tab.. I think. lol

Right. I love everything of 6.5 ROM except that I cannot get iGO with TTS working. Now with stock Sprint ROM iGO works flawlessly. But the interface is less user-friendly.

Anyway I figured it out by myself. With some registry hacks now I am able to have old style start menu when I click start and old style program folders (with new customized WM 6.5 icons,

. Plus I can access the program tabs either by sliding the taskbar or press the home key.

tkjames · #6 (**permalink**) 01-24-2010, 09:45 AM

What registry edits did you do? I have 6.1 and installed the cab that puts the "Programs" tab back on the slider, as well as the one that puts 4 programs in the row. But having the "Programs" tab changed my hard key start button; now when I press it, it opens the old school drop-down start menu. I want the start button to open the "Programs" tab like it does on a factory fresh TP2.

DLCPhoto · #7 (**permalink**) 01-24-2010, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by oldgarfield

Anyway I figured it out by myself. With some registry hacks now I am able to have old style start menu when I click start and old style program folders (with new customized WM 6.5 icons,

. Plus I can access the program tabs either by sliding the taskbar or press the home key.

I'd be very interested in the specifics of what you did here as well.

I'm content with the Stock WM6.1 ROM on Verizon, but would like to be able to add Folders to the TF3D Start Menu system, and not just Programs. That would work just fine for me, so if your edits will allow me to do that, then bring it on!

onree · #8 (**permalink**) 01-24-2010, 10:06 AM

I'd also like to know what registry edits you used ... for what it's worth, I used the Send Key (hold) function in buttons settings and mapped it to the Start Menu. So at least I can get to the old Start Menu that way. (This is on Sprint stock ROM.)

tkjames · #9 (**permalink**) 01-24-2010, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by DLCPhoto

I'd be very interested in the specifics of what you did here as well.

I'm content with the Stock WM6.1 ROM on Verizon, but would like to be able to add Folders to the TF3D Start Menu system, and not just Programs. That would work just fine for me, so if your edits will allow me to do that, then bring it on!

The following was posted by JMorton10 in another thread. I have not tried it myself, but if it's the solution you're looking for, find him and give him "thanks"...

hook the phone to your LT with ActiveSync. [I prefer to access my folders on the phone itself using File Explorer.]

Then go to Windows/Start menu/Programs. Once you're in there, right click & create a new folder & name it whatever you want (you can see the one I created called "applications", I have all my most used everyday apps listed in there so I can get to them in one click with no scrolling))

Then drag/copy whatever existing shortcuts from outside the folder into it. After that, I usually delete the original shortcut.

~John

DLCPhoto · #10 (**permalink**) 01-24-2010, 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tkjames

The following was posted by JMorton10 in another thread. I have not tried it myself, but if it's the solution you're looking for, find him and give him "thanks"...

hook the phone to your LT with ActiveSync. [I prefer to access my folders on the phone itself using File Explorer.]

Then go to Windows/Start menu/Programs. Once you're in there, right click & create a new folder & name it whatever you want (you can see the one I created called "applications", I have all my most used everyday apps listed in there so I can get to them in one click with no scrolling))

Then drag/copy whatever existing shortcuts from outside the folder into it. After that, I usually delete the original shortcut.

~John

John,

I remember that post, and know JMorton to be a great guy. I think I responded in that thread, though, that this will not work for the TF3D Start Menu, only the 'regular' Windows Mobile Menus.

What several of us want to do is to keep the TF3D User Interface, but have the ability to add Folderes as one or more of the 10x3 array of Icons that the TF3D Start Menu provides. As it is now, there doesn't seem to be the ability to add Folders, only Shortcuts to Programs.

For example, when I look at the Windows\Start Menu\Programs folder now, there is a Folder for "Games" but that doesn't appear in the 10x3 Array of the TF3D Start Menu, nor does it appear as a choice when I remove one of those, and want to replace it with something different.

Thanks for the reply, though.