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jnuts5423 04-28-2009 08:30 PM

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what i the world am i doing wrong. when i install shell, it kills my tf3d. it wont launch after installiung. ive shut off everything on the today screen, but it still kills it. #1 how do i fix this, #2 is there a simple way to reskin it without hard reseting? I swear i had all three of them working but now tf3d wont launch. what did i do? I flashed 3 times trying it different ways.

darren.wlsn1 04-28-2009 08:48 PM

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look back a couple of pages, i saw the fix.

PropagandaX 04-29-2009 07:34 AM

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Is anybody know a way to add a shortcut to the lifestyle screen to access the today screen? I know I can click the bottom right bottom and get it from the menu, but I missed the quick access that we had in version 2.0.

nalab1 04-29-2009 08:12 AM

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Hi!

Has anyone got around the problem with MS3 contacts and SMS Chat? Specifically selecting a contact and then clicking on "Send SMS" and going directly to that contact in SMS Chat as apposed to just opening the all threads screen?

Regards,

Alan

volsmcfalls 04-29-2009 09:44 AM

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Is anyone having any problems with MS3 and S2U2? I'm having a couple of bugs...

1) when I go to unlock S2U2 (using latest version 1.62) I usually have to unlock it twice. It will unlock, go to the MS screen, flicker, and go right back to S2U2.

2) when I reject a phone call now, it doesn't actually reject it. It silences the ring / vibrate, but the screen still shows the incoming call and I can actually answer it after I've rejected it. It makes the option to reject with SMS useless. It just keeps ringing until the voice mail picks up.

Anyone having these issues?

aleis 04-29-2009 10:05 AM

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Thanks to MrHawaii, this is my new phone! :)

volsmcfalls 04-29-2009 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by aleis (Post 884043)
Thanks to MrHawaii, this is my new phone! :)

Nice! Is the background static or animated gif?

aleis 04-29-2009 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by volsmcfalls (Post 884055)
Nice! Is the background static or animated gif?


wow!
wish it was but no, its static.
probably be a drain on the battery but it would make up for it in looks! :)

MrHawaii 04-29-2009 03:04 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by aleis (Post 884043)
Thanks to MrHawaii, this is my new phone! :)

Looks fantastic!

Looking forward to seeing more nice work like this!

MrHawaii 04-29-2009 03:09 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by PropagandaX (Post 883920)
Is anybody know a way to add a shortcut to the lifestyle screen to access the today screen? I know I can click the bottom right bottom and get it from the menu, but I missed the quick access that we had in version 2.0.

I posted a link to a CAB that enables a third button on the bottom of the screen which would give you LAUNCHER, MENU, CONTACTS. I would think if they got MENU in there you could presumably put something else in there like Show Today, ETC.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrHawaii (Post 880783)


>How to Add SPB Menu button to main screen<
- Thanks to Lucas0501
Call SPB Menu from the main screen, with a button between Launcher and Contacts buttons on the bottom
- use attached cab from this THREAD
Caution: This will overwrite your qa_layouts.dat customizations, so make a backup!


MrHawaii 04-29-2009 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by MrHawaii (Post 884733)
I posted a link to a CAB that enables a third button on the bottom of the screen which would give you LAUNCHER, MENU, CONTACTS. I would think if they got MENU in there you could presumably put something else in there like Show Today, ETC.

This is how they added the menu button. If someone wants to take a stab at it and add other things, that would be nice.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...&postcount=576

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lucas0511 (Post 3709569)
Turborepu over at Modaco took the time to write down how to add a 3rd button manually to the menubars in the Pro and Life panels, but also in the others:
"the qa_layouts contains various xml files.. if you know how to edit that you can make the three button or 4 our how ever many you figure you can fit if you make the images. if you want to avoid making changes and without the ability to revert to the original files, just save your new "menubar" file as something like "menubarcustom" or menubar3 4 etc..(menubar2 is already used by spb)
The pro screen(lockscreen) and lifestyle screen(lockscreen2) use menubar.xml
the weather, time and carousel use menubar2.xml
the call log(calllog), favorite contacts(favcontacts), and spb contacts(spbcontacts) use menubarcontacts.xml
towards the top of the xml files for any of these pages(lockscreen, lockscreen2 etc etc) you will see
"<Layer Name="Menu" Dialog="MenuBar" />"..
Menubar refers to the menu it will use.. so say you made a new MenuBar files but called it "MenuBarcustom", you'd then have to go into the screens that you want to use this one on, and make it be " <Layer Name="Menu" Dialog="MenuBarcustom" />"
You'd do this for any of the screens you need this on..
if you go into the menubar.xml you will see this towards the top.
"- <Plugin Class="Spb.LSP.MenuBar" Name="Btn0" ID="1">
<String Name="Backgrd" Value="MenuBackgrd" />
<Int Name="GlobalIcon" Value="216" />
<String Name="Text" Value="Launcher" />
<String Name="Open" Value=":LAUNCHER" />
</Plugin>
- <Plugin Class="Spb.LSP.MenuBar" Name="Btn1" ID="2">
<String Name="Backgrd" Value="MenuBackgrd" />
<Int Name="GlobalIcon" Value="217" />
<String Name="Text" Value="Contacts" />
<String Name="Open" Value=":FAVORITES" />"
there is more, but this refers to the two buttons, you can also see here that they have the "text" value which is the text you see on the menu.. this part of the file also defines the plugin, so say you wanted to add a third button like in the post above me, you'd have to copy the same layout of one of those buttons and change the values reflect what you need it to do..
"- <Plugin Class="Spb.LSP.MenuBar" Name="Btn2" ID="3">
<String Name="Backgrd" Value="MenuBackgrd" />
<Int Name="GlobalIcon" Value="217" />
<String Name="Text" Value="SpbMenu" />
<String Name="Open" Value=":SPBMENU" />"
it is important to change the top line "name" value because when you edit the actual placement of the buttons, further down in this file, it refers to the "name". i changed the btn id to 3. i have no clue what that does... but it seems like the all have their own ids.. probably for some spb reason, maybe for changing values when the program language is changed. for this button i dont know what the icon value is, but if you look in the menubarcontacts.xml file they reference the icons differently. NOTE: plugins added on the bottom on the list will be ontop, so if you make layout changes with over lapping buttons, the one to the bottom will be place over the ones on the top of this list.. it seems to me anyway..
now that the plugin is defined, you can edit the actual layout(look) of the menu. if you scroll down you will find the layout names and what not.. and there you need to duplicate the btn0 or 2 and make it say whatever you named your new button.. I named it "btn2" in this example.. and make sure you do it in the proper 240x400 or in the case of the menubar file, 240x320. then 320x240 for landscape.
the button layout definitions will look like so..
"- <Plugin Name="Btn0">
<BoundRect X="0" Y="0" Width="120" Height="40" />
<Rect Name="SelRect" X="50" Y="0" Width="70" Height="40" />
<Rect Name="IconRect" X="50" Y="5" Width="70" Height="32" />
<Point Name="BkNormal" X="0" Y="0" />"
fiddle with the settings.. they seems pretty self explanatory if you know what you are doin..
this is where you have to do some math and figure out the x/y values for all that stuff to get the buttons to be placed where you need them .. hope this helps gettin you guys started.. "
Sample screen: http://myppc.ru/uploads/posts/myppc....creenspb07.png
SPB Menu button between Launcher and Contacts at bottom


jmorton10 04-29-2009 06:37 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by nalab1 (Post 883935)
Hi!

Has anyone got around the problem with MS3 contacts and SMS Chat? Specifically selecting a contact and then clicking on "Send SMS" and going directly to that contact in SMS Chat

I have never been able to get that to work (but when I am in MS3 contacts & click send SMS it opens a new SMS in the stock WinMo chat app)

I programmed my round center button to open SMS-Chat with a fast double click with AEButton + & I can just select the contact from within SMS-Chat. This works great because I can jump straight into SMS-Chat from any screen or app.

~John

sherown 04-29-2009 07:12 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jnuts5423 (Post 883132)
what i the world am i doing wrong. when i install shell, it kills my tf3d. it wont launch after installiung. ive shut off everything on the today screen, but it still kills it. #1 how do i fix this, #2 is there a simple way to reskin it without hard reseting? I swear i had all three of them working but now tf3d wont launch. what did i do? I flashed 3 times trying it different ways.

You will need to go into your Folder explorer<Windows<start up and in that folder delete the spb file. Then soft reset and it should start up in tf3d and you should be able to toggle between all three.

1999TL 04-30-2009 12:41 AM

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Is MS3 becoming unbearable to any of you guys b/c it starts to slow down the phone too much during the day?

cordevil95 04-30-2009 02:50 AM

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Is anybody else having issues with deleting calendar items?

If I click on an appointment, it opens up with the built in WinMo calendar, I then delete (it's gone from the winmo cal.) but it still stays on the SPB calendar. Now that appointment in SPB is dead. If I click on it it does nothing... which I guess makes sense since it's not really there. If I do a soft reset SPB then shows the correct calendar items.

Can anybody else recreate this and see if it's happening to them too? Thanks.

Devileyezz 04-30-2009 11:18 PM

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How do you guys use the dialpad to make calls? For example, calling a number not in contacts is a nightmare. I have to go back to the Today screen to do so.

1999TL 04-30-2009 11:21 PM

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Don't you just press your green call button to get to the dialer screen?

HBOOT 04-30-2009 11:24 PM

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either you stick "phone"symbol which is dial pad to your lifestyle page (i have it in more 3 pages), also i have "spb home" mapped to the send/receive button so when i am driving and using gps, one click on the TP takes me to life style page and dial pad is one touch away:mrgreen:

+1 for the call buton, however I like to get back to home screen and get right to my contact when gps is driving

freeza 04-30-2009 11:25 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 1999TL (Post 885835)
Is MS3 becoming unbearable to any of you guys b/c it starts to slow down the phone too much during the day?


Yes! that and the 0 sms messages when there are messages bug are what got me to temporarily disable MS3

HBOOT 04-30-2009 11:29 PM

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I find that my TP is working even better than before when I was running MS2, touch screen is very responsive and tons of progs load w/o hick ups...no prob with sms, I assume u running th latest version of MS...

redd214 05-01-2009 12:08 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 1999TL (Post 885835)
Is MS3 becoming unbearable to any of you guys b/c it starts to slow down the phone too much during the day?

sadly i concur. i do a lot of texting and the lag in the sms is killing me! i know its an early release and updates are coming but man i was close to turning it off today

yearn 05-01-2009 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by redd214 (Post 888458)
sadly i concur. i do a lot of texting and the lag in the sms is killing me! i know its an early release and updates are coming but man i was close to turning it off today

I run cleanram every so often, it seems to find more than cleartemp, and I set my opera cache to save to internal storage (or SD card) and it really sped it up.
Also I cooked a ROM without manila and that also made a HUGE difference.This is how to change your Opera cache-->

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=66879

and I posted the CleanRam cab.

GREY.FOXX 05-01-2009 09:37 AM

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Its nice to show off, but I rather use the 6.5 today screen, with the WM7 look. This seems like too much moving around to do something simple.

syrguy1969 05-01-2009 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by GREY.FOXX (Post 888954)


I don't know if this is cool to say here, but ...........................

Just a friendly warning :

You may want to edit your post, that is a definite no in here, before 'others' take notice!!


:-D

redd214 05-01-2009 11:12 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by yearn (Post 888503)
I run cleanram every so often, it seems to find more than cleartemp, and I set my opera cache to save to internal storage (or SD card) and it really sped it up.
Also I cooked a ROM without manila and that also made a HUGE difference.This is how to change your Opera cache-->

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=66879

and I posted the CleanRam cab.

yeah i have that app as one of my widgets on my lifesylte home page and have it scheduled to run quite often during the day still doesnt help the slow down problem. thanx for the recommendation though!

Cruzincat 05-01-2009 11:49 AM

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If you have Mobile Shell 2.0 "AND A LIFE" stick with 2.0! I paid the half off upgrade price for 3.0, and spent several hours trying to see if I could figure out how to configure it for my needs and gave up. I don't need to spend that much time when I already have 2.0 doing what I want.
When I first put 2.0 on I loved that I could unlock the phone without touching the screen(using both soft keys). First thing I noticed about 3.0 was that it was gone. Bad start to begin with. I tried for a few hours and reverted back to 2.0.
Don't bother upgrading if you are happy with what you have and don't want to spend a whole lot of time learning a new program just to run the same programs you are running now!

volsmcfalls 05-01-2009 12:03 PM

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GGAAAAHHHH!...CHANGE.....MUST....RESIST....CHANGE. .....

Man, a lot of the negative reviews of MS3 seem to be based mostly on a variant of "it's different." As in, I now have to do this, or I used to be able to do that...it's different.

Here's the way I look at the program. It turns your phone into a mobile PC desktop. You have multiple screens to put the programs on that you want to run. Then, a simple swipe of the finger, press the icon, and there you go. You really have 3 options...you can use the "desktop" space, the Launcher (which I NEVER use now), or the Start button. But, if you want a program that you use a lot to be quickly accessed, put a shortcut on the desktop.

Is it really that hard?

yearn 05-01-2009 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by volsmcfalls (Post 889175)
GGAAAAHHHH!...CHANGE.....MUST....RESIST....CHANGE. .....

Man, a lot of the negative reviews of MS3 seem to be based mostly on a variant of "it's different." As in, I now have to do this, or I used to be able to do that...it's different.

Here's the way I look at the program. It turns your phone into a mobile PC desktop. You have multiple screens to put the programs on that you want to run. Then, a simple swipe of the finger, press the icon, and there you go. You really have 3 options...you can use the "desktop" space, the Launcher (which I NEVER use now), or the Start button. But, if you want a program that you use a lot to be quickly accessed, put a shortcut on the desktop.

Is it really that hard?

I Totally agree with you, its gonna take a while to get you own flavor, but once you do Its gonna be exactly what you want! I havent noticed any major slow downs especially since I set up Opera's cache to save to the internal storage card, cooked MS3.0 into my ROM and removed Manila alltogether!
I got plenty of memory and it seems faster than ever.

syrguy1969 05-01-2009 12:16 PM

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I'm with volsmcfalls with feeling like a lot of the bad reviews center on 'it's different'. Personally, I have my Lifestyle pafe expanded to 5 pages, and between shortcuts, app icons, widgets and contact icone, I hardly ever leave that screen, I almost never see the Proffesional page, or Today screen. I really love the flexability of the Lifestyle layout!!

Now...I know a lot of people will prefer other apps, or MS2 over MS3, and I understand personal preference (one of the strong points of having a WM device after all), but personally, I really do thing MS3 is a great 'next step' for Shell!!!!

A couple changes I would think about suggesting to SPB though would be the ability to at least chose to cover the upper system bar or not (loved that in MS2, I had all my notifications show elsewhere though), being able to toggle contact icons to the way they are now or as speed-dial icons, and the ability to 'widgetize' Today plug-ins.

HBOOT 05-01-2009 12:22 PM

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:headbang:+ 1 for Syrguy, SPB MS3 is da isht and it can only get better, been using sob products all along and they are the best out there 5 pages life style do the trick for me too.

syrguy1969 05-01-2009 12:28 PM

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It has been tested up to ten pages, but I think that would get a bit lengthy for scrolling through. One thing I would really like to see done with the Lifestyle Layout is to loop it....I think that would be great!!

yearn 05-01-2009 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by syrguy1969 (Post 889234)
It has been tested up to ten pages, but I think that would get a bit lengthy for scrolling through. One thing I would really like to see done with the Lifestyle Layout is to look it....I think that would be great!!

Look it?? I dont understand?

sparhawk6 05-01-2009 12:37 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by redd214 (Post 888458)
sadly i concur. i do a lot of texting and the lag in the sms is killing me! i know its an early release and updates are coming but man i was close to turning it off today

I completely agree. The SMS lag is really awful.

How do I kill or stop SPB MS ?

syrguy1969 05-01-2009 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by yearn (Post 889245)
Look it?? I dont understand?

DOH.....I meant "LOOP" it.....my bad!!!!

GhettoBSD 05-01-2009 01:15 PM

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Love all the info gang but can't we get a thread dedicated to the hacks? We have so much stuff to go through it's hard to find something you're looking for...

just a thought :P

darren.wlsn1 05-01-2009 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by GhettoBSD (Post 889339)
Love all the info gang but can't we get a thread dedicated to the hacks? We have so much stuff to go through it's hard to find something you're looking for...

just a thought :P

there is one, see op for links. mr hawaii started it.

yearn 05-01-2009 01:25 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by GhettoBSD (Post 889339)
Love all the info gang but can't we get a thread dedicated to the hacks? We have so much stuff to go through it's hard to find something you're looking for...

just a thought :P

heres the one Darren was talkin about-->

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=66642

darren.wlsn1 05-01-2009 01:32 PM

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thanx yearn, i just went looking for it. lol

jaggrey 05-01-2009 01:40 PM

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Dunno if this would go here or there.... anyone else feenin for a Google Search widget? I use it on my Today screen all the time.

yearn 05-01-2009 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by jaggrey (Post 889394)
Dunno if this would go here or there.... anyone else feenin for a Google Search widget? I use it on my Today screen all the time.

My opera widget takes me directly to googles homepage anyway.
Isn't that pretty much the same thing?


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