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gguruusa 04-27-2009 09:06 AM
Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
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Originally Posted by evertec (Post 879525)
How exactly is this done? I don't even have a xip.bin with the kitchen I'm using (calkulin). Do I have to extract it somehow? Thanks
extract, insert file, rebase, rebuild, insert back into rom. Probably a bit advanced for you.

BTW, this is probably a pointless and slightly detrimental change for Diamond/Touch Pro devices. You should really only be considering it if you have an older device like the apache.

evertec 04-27-2009 09:17 AM
Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
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Originally Posted by gguruusa (Post 879560)
extract, insert file, rebase, rebuild, insert back into rom. Probably a bit advanced for you.
Ok, well, I extracted the xip.bin from the os.nb.payload using xipporterex, then dumped it using xipport, replaced the cecompr.dll, built xip_out.bin, then used xippoterex to write it back to the os.nb.payload. Didn't boot. Where did I go wrong here? Thanks for your help.

evertec 04-27-2009 09:25 AM
Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by gguruusa (Post 879560)
this is probably a pointless and slightly detrimental change for Diamond/Touch Pro devices. You should really only be considering it if you have an older device like the apache.
So will the LZX compression not give more storage memory if done right?

seatone 04-27-2009 09:42 AM
Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by evertec (Post 879575)
Ok, well, I extracted the xip.bin from the os.nb.payload using xipporterex, then dumped it using xipport, replaced the cecompr.dll, built xip_out.bin, then used xippoterex to write it back to the os.nb.payload. Didn't boot. Where did I go wrong here? Thanks for your help.
Sorry, at xda I havn't answered, cos I thought that you've already done the aboves...
In my oppinion this is the right way as you wrote (os.nb-os.nb.payload-xip.bin-oemxipkernel-change cecompr.dll-xip.new.bin-os.nb.payload) BUT, don't forget to edit your imgfs.bin or the payload file at the beginning of the imgfs signature, changing XPR to LPX ;)

Than it should boot...
And you'll gain cca. 10 mbs.

gguruusa 04-27-2009 10:03 AM
Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by evertec (Post 879575)
Ok, well, I extracted the xip.bin from the os.nb.payload using xipporterex, then dumped it using xipport, replaced the cecompr.dll, built xip_out.bin, then used xippoterex to write it back to the os.nb.payload. Didn't boot. Where did I go wrong here? Thanks for your help.
Did you rebase?

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Originally Posted by evertec (Post 879587)
So will the LZX compression not give more storage memory if done right?
It will. On diamond/touchpro, you should not be in short supply of storage memory, however.

evertec 04-27-2009 10:10 AM
Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
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Originally Posted by gguruusa (Post 879635)
Did you rebase?


It will. On diamond/touchpro, you should not be in short supply of storage memory, however.
How do you rebase? The sprint diamond doesn't have much storage memory... even my vogue had much more (had to scrimp and cut stuff to get 50mb with my 6.5 rom)

Zecanilis 04-27-2009 10:37 AM
Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
I think that LZX compression is no good for people that has 200MHz processor.
In my opinion, what you get from free space does not worth the decrease of speed, has LZX is slower that XPR.

I've tried in my love, and quickly got back do XPR.
Or i whould had to increase my PP, wich is out of my todo list... :D

gguruusa 04-27-2009 11:34 AM
Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
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Originally Posted by Zecanilis (Post 879687)
I think that LZX compression is no good for people that has 200MHz processor.
In my opinion, what you get from free space does not worth the decrease of speed, has LZX is slower that XPR.

I've tried in my love, and quickly got back do XPR.
Or i whould had to increase my PP, wich is out of my todo list... :D
Yeah, LZX would blow on slower processors. Increasing pagepool would not have helped.

No compression is probably best on the really slow machines, assuming they can take the storage hit.

gguruusa 04-27-2009 11:38 AM
Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
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Originally Posted by evertec (Post 879648)
How do you rebase?
search. That's a long subject.
Quote:
The sprint diamond doesn't have much storage memory... even my vogue had much more (had to scrimp and cut stuff to get 50mb with my 6.5 rom)
What diamond do you have? The vogue has 128MB of flash, the Diamond has 256MB. There is no way in hell you can cram as much on a vogue as you can on a diamond.

evertec 04-27-2009 12:28 PM
Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by gguruusa (Post 879821)
search. That's a long subject.
What diamond do you have? The vogue has 128MB of flash, the Diamond has 256MB. There is no way in hell you can cram as much on a vogue as you can on a diamond.
I had the sprint version of vogue, sprint diamond as well. My vogue had 256mb ROM, same as the diamond. Maybe it's the greater file size of VGA graphics? Either way, I had about 100mb of program memory to work with after a flash vs the 50-75mb i have with the diamond


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