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joojoobee666 08-20-2009 09:12 PM
Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
[QUOTE=dennygun;1113311]
Quote:
Originally Posted by joojoobee666 (Post 1113155)
PPCKitchen files for 23031. Again, with no source for 96DPI, these are based off of 23028, but some of the "newer" pngs have been converted and added in. The other usual things apply. I've actually recmodded a few more dll's and such on this one though, based of a memory profile I did on a running 6.5. Basically, Slot 0 should be almost of no concern ;). The .net issue fix has been applied as well as "Personal" icons being fixed.

The Apache, Herman, Kaiser, Titan, Victor and Vogue XIPs are included in the PPCKitchen XIPs rar. All are spinlock patched except for the Apache. The Herman is the only one I tested.

thx jojobee, but my apache won't boot in this build, in 23030 works fine.
thx,
Does it boot with the 23030 xip?

Edit: Nevermind. I forgot that they are practically the same, only 1 byte difference where the version number is changed. Are you sure you edited the PPCK files correctly?

joojoobee666 08-20-2009 10:19 PM
Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lmiller1708 (Post 1113236)
Any major differences between 23030 and 23031?

Thanks!
Not that I can see.:dontknow: Plus, I've been too busy working on the OEM's in my kitchen and reflashing to test the stability of 23031 :evil4:

ther-amm 08-20-2009 10:53 PM
Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
While waiting the next Build COM4 branch, I try to fix the COM4 UI elements from the COM3 last release and fix D-Pad scrollbar including QVGA DPIs. I share with you the pleasure to try.

Hybrid 23403-23031 vga and qvga 0409.

http://rapidshare.com/files/26969259...a-qvga-0409.7z

MassStash 08-20-2009 11:20 PM
Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
i know it's kinda beatin' a dead horse, but again, dumbazz sized softkeys r built into the shell or something right?? no hope in running a new build with an Old School fix haha and theme's cannot change these, at least as of now, correct?? also, is this just not as lame on a vga device compared to qvga, perhaps as to which y i'm trippin about it? just curious, am i alone in the disliking anything past 23017?? who out there's with me?? holla. haha

dennygun 08-21-2009 12:35 AM
Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
[QUOTE=joojoobee666;1113362]
Quote:
Originally Posted by dennygun (Post 1113311)

Does it boot with the 23030 xip?

Edit: Nevermind. I forgot that they are practically the same, only 1 byte difference where the version number is changed. Are you sure you edited the PPCK files correctly?
i'm sure i've edited correctly, just won't pass the second splash screen, it goes black indefinitely..any suggestion how to fix it?

krazy_about_technology 08-21-2009 01:04 AM
Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by MassStash (Post 1113546)
i know it's kinda beatin' a dead horse, but again, dumbazz sized softkeys r built into the shell or something right?? no hope in running a new build with an Old School fix haha and theme's cannot change these, at least as of now, correct?? also, is this just not as lame on a vga device compared to qvga, perhaps as to which y i'm trippin about it? just curious, am i alone in the disliking anything past 23017?? who out there's with me?? holla. haha
I am somewhat with you :o Actually, i dont have problem with the softkey bar, i like the new changes to the home screen and softkeybar, specially the close button moving to the bottom bar, its very easy to tap now. but the UI everywhere else is looking really ugly, those extra big drop down lists and all, that makes me sick. Plus the positioning of UI elements on screen is also not precise, the alignment is a mess. This is something i cannot bear, it really gives these builds a look which reflects that its an unfinished business. Before, till 23017, it never looked like the OS is an under development stuff, it was nice and pretty. And this ugliness shows up more on low resolutions like QVGA.

I really hope that the COM4 branch does some wonders to this new UI and make it a bit consistent a bit. Till then, i am on my fvourite build, 23016 with 21095 shell32.exe. Working super fine for me since last 20-25 days. I occasionally do try out builds touted good by other members, but since 23022, i was not able to keep this UI for more than 1 hour without annoying me thoroughly :)

This is of course my personal experience, not a generalization or anything, so no offense to anyone :)

krazy_about_technology 08-21-2009 01:07 AM
Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dennygun (Post 1113642)
i'm sure i've edited correctly, just won't pass the second splash screen, it goes black indefinitely..any suggestion how to fix it?
If your phone boots with 23030 XIP then you can just dump it and change the version in the dsm file with the DSMInfo tool. I am attaching it here. :) Also take a good look at your SYS. Most of the times when i have this kind of problem, 80% times its got something to do with the SYS.

dennygun 08-21-2009 01:44 AM
Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by krazy_about_technology (Post 1113683)
If your phone boots with 23030 XIP then you can just dump it and change the version in the dsm file with the DSMInfo tool. I am attaching it here. :) Also take a good look at your SYS. Most of the times when i have this kind of problem, 80% times its got something to do with the SYS.
thx for the reply but i'm afraid i know nothing about dumping xip thing, I'm still a beginner cooker using PPCK only..

coolsac32 08-21-2009 02:17 AM
Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
is there a way to have the 23031 with the 23601 contact modded stuff? like a hybrid or sumthin?

MassStash 08-21-2009 02:47 AM
Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by krazy_about_technology (Post 1113678)
I am somewhat with you :o Actually, i dont have problem with the softkey bar, i like the new changes to the home screen and softkeybar, specially the close button moving to the bottom bar, its very easy to tap now. but the UI everywhere else is looking really ugly, those extra big drop down lists and all, that makes me sick. Plus the positioning of UI elements on screen is also not precise, the alignment is a mess. This is something i cannot bear, it really gives these builds a look which reflects that its an unfinished business. Before, till 23017, it never looked like the OS is an under development stuff, it was nice and pretty. And this ugliness shows up more on low resolutions like QVGA.

I really hope that the COM4 branch does some wonders to this new UI and make it a bit consistent a bit. Till then, i am on my fvourite build, 23016 with 21095 shell32.exe. Working super fine for me since last 20-25 days. I occasionally do try out builds touted good by other members, but since 23022, i was not able to keep this UI for more than 1 hour without annoying me thoroughly :)

This is of course my personal experience, not a generalization or anything, so no offense to anyone :)
interesting build, what's in the 21095 shell that's better/different? remind again, is the shell not the main part of a build? that doesn't make using 23016's sys n common useless obviously?? this hybriding i have not attempted yet and intrigues me. more info would be much appreciated. if it's explained somewhere else n you don't feel like going into, point me in the right direction, my time is limited lately with work.

bgill55 08-21-2009 03:19 AM
Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
Anyone have any ideas why my battery icon wont change with the rest of my task bar that i cook in?

it worked in 23403 did i miss a file or delete one i needed?

http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/1751/screen01kqv.png

ahmedfikry 08-21-2009 06:14 AM
Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by coolsac32 (Post 1113736)
is there a way to have the 23031 with the 23601 contact modded stuff? like a hybrid or sumthin?
+1

anyone know where the "contacts" stuff are?
what do wee need to take from 23601 and include when cooking 23031 in order to et new contacts look?

joojoobee666 08-21-2009 07:54 AM
Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by krazy_about_technology (Post 1113683)
If your phone boots with 23030 XIP then you can just dump it and change the version in the dsm file with the DSMInfo tool. I am attaching it here. :) Also take a good look at your SYS. Most of the times when i have this kind of problem, 80% times its got something to do with the SYS.
I'm 99% sure it's not the XIP. Sounds like something else. Possibly the SYS as you suggest, but more than likely not. I suspect it's an OEM problem first.

[QUOTE=dennygun;1113642]
Quote:
Originally Posted by joojoobee666 (Post 1113362)

i'm sure i've edited correctly, just won't pass the second splash screen, it goes black indefinitely..any suggestion how to fix it?
Have you cooked a completely clean ROM? The SYS_23031_Common worked great on my touch pro, I always test it clean with NO additional OEMs.

If the 100% vanilla doesn't boot, we can try two other things. By editing the BuildBase file, you can swap DPI and Common, but still use the same Project file. Try both, but I still suspect it's something else causing your issue since I'm sure we would have heard other reports from other PPCKitchen users. The 23031 common has been downloaded 25 times and no other reports. from any other users, but that's not to say there isn't a problem between the SYS and your device.

Any other PPCKitchen Apache users out there? Report?

joojoobee666 08-21-2009 07:56 AM
Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by bgill55 (Post 1113770)
Anyone have any ideas why my battery icon wont change with the rest of my task bar that i cook in?

it worked in 23403 did i miss a file or delete one i needed?

I'm pretty sure the battery is phcanOverbmp.dll. Make sure you didn't overwrite your customized one.

humrod 08-21-2009 08:47 AM
Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by joojoobee666 (Post 1112902)
Those are items I removed specifically for cooking in PPCKitchen. Those items I pull out are available through the PPCKitchen from the PPCK provided OEM rars. If you add them back in, they will give you all kinds of headaches due to conflicting DSMs. The "missing" DPI file I posted is ONLY for those users that are using the PPCKitchen files in any other kitchen.:)

As far as your Solitaire problem, I have not seen that issue myself. There are no DPI specific dlls/resources for that game so I doubt it is an issue with the DPI files you used.
I experienced this issue in (fake) 23601?

webleeper 08-21-2009 08:48 AM
Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
I've built a rom using 23403 and all seems to work with the exception of the notifications. I cannot save any of the changes I make. I also cannot toggle between play sound and vibrate. Any suggestions?

krazy_about_technology 08-21-2009 10:03 AM
Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by MassStash (Post 1113750)
interesting build, what's in the 21095 shell that's better/different? remind again, is the shell not the main part of a build? that doesn't make using 23016's sys n common useless obviously?? this hybriding i have not attempted yet and intrigues me. more info would be much appreciated. if it's explained somewhere else n you don't feel like going into, point me in the right direction, my time is limited lately with work.
Sorry for the typo, the build i took shell32.exe from is 21925, the MD1 branch. The features this shell32.exe provides are :
1) In Settings menu, if you choose an icon, in 230xx builds, phone returns to the today screen. In 219xx however, it remains in the settings menu, so that you can do many settings at once.
2) When you tap and hold an icon in start menu, instead of Move Up and Move Down menu, you can drag and drop icons. Although its still not possible to move icons into and out from a folder.

Shell definitely is the part of main build, but for some builds its possible to make this kind of hybrid since even if these are different branches, the OS code version these branches are using are not far away.

Although i wont recommend to do this thing again and again, i experimented on this build and its not giving me any problems at all plus the extra features in start menu. So i kept it. And it wasn't my idea actually, someone at XDA posted it working so i tried it. For this particular build, i am using it for last 20 days and my device is a 64 MB RAM one, so i keep a strict eye on memory usage, and believe me, i have seen no memory leaks or anything like that whatsoever. :)

humrod 08-21-2009 10:26 AM
Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
Hi friends, working on a 23403 sys/96DPI and have the problem in picture. Is like the grid is moved up a few.

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/1570/display1g.jpg

dennygun 08-21-2009 10:47 AM
Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by joojoobee666 (Post 1113875)
I'm 99% sure it's not the XIP. Sounds like something else. Possibly the SYS as you suggest, but more than likely not. I suspect it's an OEM problem first.


Have you cooked a completely clean ROM? The SYS_23031_Common worked great on my touch pro, I always test it clean with NO additional OEMs.

If the 100% vanilla doesn't boot, we can try two other things. By editing the BuildBase file, you can swap DPI and Common, but still use the same Project file. Try both, but I still suspect it's something else causing your issue since I'm sure we would have heard other reports from other PPCKitchen users. The 23031 common has been downloaded 25 times and no other reports. from any other users, but that's not to say there isn't a problem between the SYS and your device.

Any other PPCKitchen Apache users out there? Report?
I have tried what you suggest, and yup, something wrong with the common file, cause I tried swap it with the 23030 build and it boots...
thx Jojobee,

sendhiloo7 08-21-2009 11:13 AM
Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
Hi humrod!

Thanks . i cooked latest build 23028. its working great ...
i have two query:-
1) usb to popup its shows, but not working
2) unable change theme
please help me

MassStash 08-21-2009 11:17 AM
Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by krazy_about_technology (Post 1114015)
Sorry for the typo, the build i took shell32.exe from is 21925, the MD1 branch. The features this shell32.exe provides are :
1) In Settings menu, if you choose an icon, in 230xx builds, phone returns to the today screen. In 219xx however, it remains in the settings menu, so that you can do many settings at once.
2) When you tap and hold an icon in start menu, instead of Move Up and Move Down menu, you can drag and drop icons. Although its still not possible to move icons into and out from a folder.

Shell definitely is the part of main build, but for some builds its possible to make this kind of hybrid since even if these are different branches, the OS code version these branches are using are not far away.

Although i wont recommend to do this thing again and again, i experimented on this build and its not giving me any problems at all plus the extra features in start menu. So i kept it. And it wasn't my idea actually, someone at XDA posted it working so i tried it. For this particular build, i am using it for last 20 days and my device is a 64 MB RAM one, so i keep a strict eye on memory usage, and believe me, i have seen no memory leaks or anything like that whatsoever. :)
so in this case it's really only for those start menu benefits?

joojoobee666 08-21-2009 11:36 AM
Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by dennygun (Post 1114093)
I have tried what you suggest, and yup, something wrong with the common file, cause I tried swap it with the 23030 build and it boots...
thx Jojobee,
Hmmm....very interesting. Wonder what it is? Unfortunately I cannot reproduce the issue here to help, But, if you would like to find out, I can make a few suggestions for you.

Extract the 23031 common rar to folder with the same name in the kitchen dir. Edit your buildbase to say"ModuleDir=[KitchenPath]SYS_23031_Common" without the [archive] at the end. Now, you can start swapping out base folders from 23030 to see which one is where the hangup is coming from.

I would start with the baseapps, browsing, browsingcore, shell, os and redist one at a time since those are the main os files. Also try metadata, though I doubt that's the issue since most of that is unused in the build process.

I still have yet to see any other QVGA users reporting a problem yet (SYS_23031_Common has been downloaded 38 times, and SYS_23031_96DPI_0409 37 times so far), so it's possible it may just be something with the Apache (like OEMDrivers) since no one else here has reported a yay or nay on the Apache other than you ;)

Also, you can post a build log of a non-booter at http://pastebin.com and post the link here for all to review to see if anything smells funny.:-&

Edit: Mattsm confirmed the 23031 working fine for his QVGA. (thanks mattsm)

mattsm 08-21-2009 11:40 AM
Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
I have had no problem with the 23031 on the titan. I have been playing with the 23403 though.
So I don't believe it is in the common files.



Edit: Maybe a bad download. Just a thought.

joojoobee666 08-21-2009 12:09 PM
Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mattsm (Post 1114166)
Edit: Maybe a bad download. Just a thought.
True, I don't know what ppckitchen does if it encounteres a corrupted rar, it may just not say anything (i just tried, it didn't. I just got yelled at about 1 missing dsm) so it could be cooking without a sys common at all. Extracting the rar to a folder or posting the log should calrify that. Good thought.

mattsm 08-21-2009 12:20 PM
Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
I can say this, I had one of my earlier builds do this exact same thing. It was in my builds base txt.
It had a space after one of the lines before it returned to next line. It would build fine with no errors at all, but do just what his is doing.

joojoobee666 08-21-2009 12:27 PM
Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mattsm (Post 1114223)
I can say this, I had one of my earlier builds do this exact same thing. It was in my builds base txt.
It had a space after one of the lines before it returned to next line. It would build fine with no errors at all, but do just what his is doing.
I guess we just wait and see what his results are now :drunken:

dennygun 08-21-2009 01:07 PM
Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
I think I'll just have to satisfy with the 23030 build guys, since the new builds almost come everyweek, hahaha.. but i really appreciate your reply and suggestion. Thanks a lot.

joojoobee666 08-21-2009 01:36 PM
Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
hmmmm....23031 just timebombed on me even though it's patched. "02EB7D3E" is not in shell32.exe but it puked anyhow. Anyone else just reboot and get that?

corey1138 08-21-2009 01:38 PM
Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
Rocking 23031 now. I noticed I caint finger scroll in the new bigger setting screens anymore likt you could with previous builds. Like the Sounds and Notification I cant finger scroll down to the other settings (although you can finger scroll in the drop down box). I have to resort to using the scroll bar. Hope I am making sense. Maybe there is a reg setting for this?

Soft-reset several times, even set time forward a year and no timebomb.

joojoobee666 08-21-2009 02:04 PM
Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by corey1138 (Post 1114345)
Rocking 23031 now. I noticed I caint finger scroll in the new bigger setting screens anymore likt you could with previous builds. Like the Sounds and Notification I cant finger scroll down to the other settings (although you can finger scroll in the drop down box). I have to resort to using the scroll bar. Hope I am making sense. Maybe there is a reg setting for this?

Soft-reset several times, even set time forward a year and no timebomb.
hmmmm...:scratch: wonder why mine bombed then. I'll try again.

As far as the scroll issues, when did they start?

Actors 08-21-2009 02:24 PM
Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by joojoobee666 (Post 1114406)
hmmmm...:scratch: wonder why mine bombed then. I'll try again.

As far as the scroll issues, when did they start?
No timebomb for me....

corey1138 08-21-2009 04:59 PM
Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by joojoobee666 (Post 1114406)
hmmmm...:scratch: wonder why mine bombed then. I'll try again.

As far as the scroll issues, when did they start?
Starts as soon as the phone boots up. I soft reset, hard reset, even cooked a new ROM and the same issue.

joojoobee666 08-21-2009 05:22 PM
Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by corey1138 (Post 1114764)
Starts as soon as the phone boots up. I soft reset, hard reset, even cooked a new ROM and the same issue.
Just the 23031 build?

corey1138 08-21-2009 05:39 PM
Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by joojoobee666 (Post 1114830)
Just the 23031 build?
Yes. 23030 was fine. It may be me but 23031 seems a little faster for me. Then again I am just glad I can ge WM6.5 on this thing. I amuse you dont have this issue on the spiffy TP?

mikee4fun 08-21-2009 05:42 PM
Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
Any one have the Touch pro rom and sys for 23031 for the visual kitchen?

joojoobee666 08-21-2009 05:52 PM
Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mikee4fun (Post 1114862)
Any one have the Touch pro rom and sys for 23031 for the visual kitchen?
DomSim posted them a few pages back ->http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showpost.p...postcount=7061

joojoobee666 08-21-2009 05:53 PM
Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by corey1138 (Post 1114855)
Yes. 23030 was fine. It may be me but 23031 seems a little faster for me. Then again I am just glad I can ge WM6.5 on this thing. I amuse you dont have this issue on the spiffy TP?
No, no issue. I wonder if any other QVGA users are seeing that as well. If I had a QVGA device to test with, I surely would.

DomSim 08-21-2009 05:53 PM
Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
you guy have any experience with no2chems nuespinlockpatch? does it really make a difference?

joojoobee666 08-21-2009 06:05 PM
Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by DomSim (Post 1114886)
you guy have any experience with no2chems nuespinlockpatch? does it really make a difference?
I believe I remember no2chem talking about nuespinlock patcher on IRC, I thought I remember him saying he noticed 2-3% increase in speed on his touch pro. I myself have never done any measurements, so I can't say either way.

cybersailor 08-21-2009 06:17 PM
Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by joojoobee666 (Post 1114883)
No, no issue. I wonder if any other QVGA users are seeing that as well. If I had a QVGA device to test with, I surely would.
I am running 23031 on a Vogue without any problems. No time bomb or scrolling problems.

By the way joojoo... thanks for all your work on these ROMs. =D>


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