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lennysh 12-07-2007 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by StevenLawyer (Post 137833)
Bad Sector--I have done. I don't always feel the vibrate, however.

Lennysh--that's sort of what I thought was the case, but was hoping I was wrong.

Everyone--What I've taken to doing is switching the setting in VC depending on whether or not I'm wearing my BT. If I've got my BT on my ear, I set VC to send audio to BT so that I will hear the ring and caller ID through the headset. If I don't have my headset on, then I set VC to send it through the handset speaker. Turning the BT headset power on and off doesn't work because there can be a lag for the connection to establish. Problem is that it's a pain to go into the VC setting and change it each time I put my BT on or take it off. Any suggestions on a convenient way to switch this setting back and forth--either by voice command or a button assignment? I contemplated installing TransferID again (I used it when I had aku 2.2), but I don't think it toggles the routing of the audio without getting the stylus out and checking the box, does it? Anyone have an app or know how to make one to make it convenient to change the VC setting for routing the audio?



Easy...

If you notice, there is three options to choose from.

1 is bluetooth only
2 is bluetooth if available
3 is speaker only.

Setting it on 2, will do speaker only if you are not wearing your headset. You can leave it on 2. If you don't have your headset on, it will go to speaker. If you have your headset on, it will be over bluetooth only. So I don't see why you have to keep changing this to do the same thing option 2 already does.

StevenLawyer 12-07-2007 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by lennysh (Post 137836)
Easy...

If you notice, there is three options to choose from.

1 is bluetooth only
2 is bluetooth if available
3 is speaker only.

Setting it on 2, will do speaker only if you are not wearing your headset. You can leave it on 2. If you don't have your headset on, it will go to speaker. If you have your headset on, it will be over bluetooth only. So I don't see why you have to keep changing this to do the same thing option 2 already does.

Lennysh--Thanks for your fast reply. It's not quite that simple with my setup. I have a Plantronics 510 headset that also works as a headset for my office phone. So it sits turned on in a charging receiver attached to my phone that allows me to use it to answer my office phone (via a receiver lifter--great set-up)--but at the same time it is maintaining a BT connection to my PPC, which allows me to answer either phone (landline or mobile). If I turn the BT off, I would have to turn it on after my office phone starts to ring in order to use it to talk on my office phone, but it can take ten or more seconds to re-establish the connection.

Even when I'm away from my office and thus don't have the above issue to contend with, I question whether or not turning the BT headset on and off is a viable solution due to the time it takes for the connection to establish. In other words, say that I have the BT turned off and in my pocket with the settings as you said. If a call comes in, the PPC will not detect the headset (it's off) and will ring audibly. But I still want to take the call on my BT--so I nab it out of my pocket and turn it on as I put it on my ear. I don't think it's going to establish the connection before the call goes to my voicemail. So your procedure would require one to take the call on the phone directly if the BT is off and in the pocket at the time the phone starts to ring. Even when my BT is in my pocket and, therefore, I want the phone to ring audibly, I still want to be able to put the BT to my ear to answer the call rather than have to use the phone.

I'm looking for a way to leave the BT on and easily switch voice command between option 1 (or 2) and 3. I.E.--go to BT or goto PPC. Ideally, I'd like to be able to put the BT on my ear, activate VC and say something like "Load Bluetooth On"--"Bluetooth On" being the name of the app that switches VC to the bluetooth setting. And then, just before I take my BT off to carry around in my pocket (but to still pull out of my pocket and use to answer a call), I would activate VC and say "Load Bluetooth Off"--being the app that switches VC the other way.

I haven't done any programming for years and am totally unfamiliar with programming an app for Windows Mobile. But if anyone on this forum (WideAwake?) has the gumption to do it, I'd gladly contribute $50 for having the app available. :)

lennysh 12-07-2007 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by StevenLawyer (Post 137850)
Lennysh--Thanks for your fast reply. It's not quite that simple with my setup. I have a Plantronics 510 headset that also works as a headset for my office phone. So it sits turned on in a charging receiver attached to my phone that allows me to use it to answer my office phone (via a receiver lifter--great set-up)--but at the same time it is maintaining a BT connection to my PPC, which allows me to answer either phone (landline or mobile). If I turn the BT off, I would have to turn it on after my office phone starts to ring in order to use it to talk on my office phone, but it can take ten or more seconds to re-establish the connection.

Even when I'm away from my office and thus don't have the above issue to contend with, I question whether or not turning the BT headset on and off is a viable solution due to the time it takes for the connection to establish. In other words, say that I have the BT turned off and in my pocket with the settings as you said. If a call comes in, the PPC will not detect the headset (it's off) and will ring audibly. But I still want to take the call on my BT--so I nab it out of my pocket and turn it on as I put it on my ear. I don't think it's going to establish the connection before the call goes to my voicemail. So your procedure would require one to take the call on the phone directly if the BT is off and in the pocket at the time the phone starts to ring. Even when my BT is in my pocket and, therefore, I want the phone to ring audibly, I still want to be able to put the BT to my ear to answer the call rather than have to use the phone.

I'm looking for a way to leave the BT on and easily switch voice command between option 1 (or 2) and 3. I.E.--go to BT or goto PPC. Ideally, I'd like to be able to put the BT on my ear, activate VC and say something like "Load Bluetooth On"--"Bluetooth On" being the name of the app that switches VC to the bluetooth setting. And then, just before I take my BT off to carry around in my pocket (but to still pull out of my pocket and use to answer a call), I would activate VC and say "Load Bluetooth Off"--being the app that switches VC the other way.

I haven't done any programming for years and am totally unfamiliar with programming an app for Windows Mobile. But if anyone on this forum (WideAwake?) has the gumption to do it, I'd gladly contribute $50 for having the app available. :)

1. Ok, I understand the office situation. But when away from the office, can you not just simply wear the headset all the time? I wear mine all the time.

2. The diff settings for VC is nothing more than a simple registry entry. The only problem with changing those settings thru the registry on-the-fly manually is I'm not sure if the settings will take affect then, or only after the next reset. I'd assume it reads those settings when something on the phone occurs that it has to decide what to do with. So a simple two apps could be made, or you could do a mortscript.

I'm going to see what I can find to help you. I'll post anything I find...

StevenLawyer 12-07-2007 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by lennysh (Post 137855)
1. Ok, I understand the office situation. But when away from the office, can you not just simply wear the headset all the time? I wear mine all the time.

2. The diff settings for VC is nothing more than a simple registry entry. The only problem with changing those settings thru the registry on-the-fly manually is I'm not sure if the settings will take affect then, or only after the next reset. I'd assume it reads those settings when something on the phone occurs that it has to decide what to do with. So a simple two apps could be made, or you could do a mortscript.

I'm going to see what I can find to help you. I'll post anything I find...

Lennysh--Thanks for all your help. With regard to 1--I'm just one of those people who doesn't feel comfortable wearing my BT when I'm sitting down talking to someone or at a restaurant, etc. In other words, I'm fine with wearing it when I'm walking down the street or driving in my car, but feel like I'm being rude if I have it on while I'm engaged in a conversation.

With regard to 2, maybe it's as simple as registry file that one could use VC to load?

Perasite 12-07-2007 11:58 AM

Yeah, a Mortscript could be easily written to toggle the VC setting between 1 and 3, but I don't know whether VC would recognize the change if it is already sending audio to one place and then switch it to the other. Does that make sense?

Scenario:
BT headset is in pocket, VC is on option 3 (ring at speaker, not BT)
Call comes in, speaker rings
Hit button on phone to launch Mortscript, changing VC option to 1 (ring in headset)
VC may not recognize switch, and continue ringing at speaker...

Now that I think about it, though, you don't necessarily need it to ring in your ear in that scenario, just put you headset on and hit the answer button to take the call. In that situation, the Mortscript should work:

Toggle speaker announcement on via single button press for when headset will be in your pocket or on charger.
Toggle BT announcement on via same single button press for when headset will be on your ear.

If Lennysh doesn't put together the Mortscript for you before I get a chance, I'll throw one together for you to test.

StevenLawyer 12-07-2007 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by 6700Yuma (Post 137887)
Toggle speaker announcement on via single button press for when headset will be in your pocket or on charger.
Toggle BT announcement on via same single button press for when headset will be on your ear.

If Lennysh doesn't put together the Mortscript for you before I get a chance, I'll throw one together for you to test.

That would be great. You're right that there's no need to switch it to the BT during a call--if the BT is in my pocket when the phone rings the ring can keep going out the phone and I would answer with the BT. Query--would the mortscript be a file that could also be run by using the "Run" or "Load" voice command in MS Voice Command? I'd probably assign it to a key, but it'd be nice to be able to also run it via VC.

I assume that a mortscript is like an old time batch file? Is there a good reference for me to learn how to write these? I'm a very rusty programmer (when I went to college it was Fortran) who has dabbled in VB. I'd love to learn how to write scripts for WM.

Perasite 12-07-2007 12:49 PM

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OK, this does what I described in my last post. There is a 2 second notification on screen that the change occurred. The notification will automatically disappear after 2 seconds. Unzip the attachment, copy its contents to \Windows. Execute MortScript.exe one time to register the .mscr extension. Assign Toggle_VC_Ringer.lnk to any button to easily launch the script.

Let me know how it works out.

Perasite 12-07-2007 12:55 PM

To answer your questions, yes, the link should run with Voice Command. To do so, you may want to rename it, though, so it is easier to say. You can find MortScript and it's documentation at http://sto-helit.de

lennysh 12-07-2007 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 6700Yuma (Post 137887)
Yeah, a Mortscript could be easily written to toggle the VC setting between 1 and 3, but I don't know whether VC would recognize the change if it is already sending audio to one place and then switch it to the other. Does that make sense?

Scenario:
BT headset is in pocket, VC is on option 3 (ring at speaker, not BT)
Call comes in, speaker rings
Hit button on phone to launch Mortscript, changing VC option to 1 (ring in headset)
VC may not recognize switch, and continue ringing at speaker...

Now that I think about it, though, you don't necessarily need it to ring in your ear in that scenario, just put you headset on and hit the answer button to take the call. In that situation, the Mortscript should work:

Toggle speaker announcement on via single button press for when headset will be in your pocket or on charger.
Toggle BT announcement on via same single button press for when headset will be on your ear.

If Lennysh doesn't put together the Mortscript for you before I get a chance, I'll throw one together for you to test.

I'm actually at work right now, so I want have the chance to do any mortscript till I get home. I'm also in the PPCGeeks chat. But, feel free to jump me on the mortscript... Be a while before I could do it..

lennysh 12-07-2007 01:08 PM

Lol...nevermind then...

Didn't refresh before i posted...lol


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