Next WM release any time soon?

[vetvito]

Originally Posted by gguruusa

No. That was the the most recent stable build that made it through testing on the vogue and titan. There really is a device specific component, we just happen to strip that part out when porting from one device to another, substituting in older files that we hope work with the newer ones.

That is still what I meant.

Obviously you have OEM files, then you have Windows Mobile.

Good points though.

[electronicrice]

Alright cool. Here we go.

First, No2Chem can do whatever he wants to do. If you don't like it, to bad. Second, No2Chem's work benefits his roms and many other users. Sorry you'd like him to do something you appreciate better, but making your device more useable doesn't always mean porting a new rom. Third, you are really stretching when you talk about things being implemented in PPCKitchen kitchens without the option of removal (it doesn't happen to any significant extent, and the extent to which it does happen happens just as much w/ any other kitchen, DCD included). Tell me a no2chem app that's built in and why you'd be better off with it removed.

You want some no2chem apps that aren't necessary to make the phone better? nueUSB, nueLED, nueBattery, etc. Anything that has been implemented into the ROM to replace original Windows components is unecessary and does not NEED to be there. They're just prettier apps, designed to give a LITTLE more control over something that works fine on its own. We don't need someone telling us that their application is for our benefit when that same program is used in dozens of other roms on other devices and they function fine. Besides it's really just a way to get his name out there. Oh, and for the record, if you actually go to re-read some of the threads, you'll notice yourself and colonel giving the finger to users who wondered why they couldn't remove some of no2chem's apps. You buried it in the SYS folders. Not everyone knows how to remove that stuff, and NOT everyone wants it. So I am right there.

I'm not saying no2chem can't do what he wants with his time. I said that you shouldn't expect an update from one of his "nueROMs" for a while because he's more focused on his "applications". That is evidenced by his "preview" builds and lack of any real release or update to a ROM base that other users can implement in their own kicthens, or even to PPCKitchen.

Furthermore, just because you don't see updates for your device doesn't mean kitchens for other devices haven't been worked on. Titan's aren't the only phones in the world.

Duh, I'm well aware of that. I'm talking about THIS phone and the updates for it. I'm not concerned for the other phones. I'm talking about the time span between updates for the TITAN. There have been significant time increases between releases since the original kitchen was released.

And now you have crossed into insanity. Are you using PPCGeeks_OEM.rar? I bet so. Does DCD maintain some 16 kitchens? No. Does DCD maintain kitchens for 6 different devices? No. Does DCD write software for you to use on your device to make it more useable as No2Chem does? No. Does DCD write tools to improve your rom building experience? No. Does DCD do things like make unlockers (ImCokeMan) or run help rooms for people who have borked their phones? No. Does DCD work on adding support for new devices? No. DCD has done some good work, but it is hardly on the scale of PPCKitchen or even No2chem.

Crossed into insanity, eh? You "Kitchen Gods" are so self-righteous it's upsetting. Yes I'm using SOME apps from PPCGeeks_OEM.rar. But guess what? All of the apps I'm using from that RAR are actually taken from an old version that was released around the same time the first apache roms were. And most of them I have updated with downloads I found myself and turned them into OEMs. So your argument there is moot.

I'm not talking about 16 kitchens, I'm talking about the TITAN kitchen. I was also referring to no2chem in this as well. Where were all of these other kitchens when the roms for this phone were being updated and released? Seems like there were plenty of updates here when there were still other phones abound. Also, I don't need DCD to write software for me to make my phone more usable. That's such a stupid argument considering what I've already stated. Everything that comes stock on Windows Mobile works just FINE. We're also not talking about unlockers, chat rooms, etc. You know what my point was.

Besides, who said we're behind? Just because we didn't release 20273 doesn't mean we didn't do it or even release some portions of it. Despite your opinion of how much better 20273 is over 20270, your actual testing of similarly configured roms is non-existent. 20273 is not significantly better than 20270. It's certainly not better enough to divert the time it takes to release it from other activities we have going on.

Considering that I've flashed pratically every rom released and tested with the EXACT same setup of applications and pagepool, I HAVE in fact noticed a difference between all of them. I'm sorry if you think you're so high up that my matter of actually USING the phone doesn't count as testing, sorry, that's my benchmark and that's how I value a rom release.

Who said that list was people who donated money? I can assure you it isn't. You'd do better begging on a street corner.

And last but not least, if that list isn't for people who have donated time and/or money, then you need to change the title of the ticker to something more like "Thank you to all who have used our ROMs" or "Thank you to all who have given us feedback". If it says "Thank you to all who have DONATED..." It really kinda means one thing. Unless of course someone donated their house, car, child or fettucine.

Stop coming in here everytime there's a comment against your work like a whining school girl, getting butt-hurt. You'd do better in prison with a giant named Tiny.

[WorldWide]

Sensitive computer thugs yall all need hugs. Ha ha.

[ajm144k]

hey electronicrice-

if you cant stop whining about other peoples work, why dont you just shut up and either 1) leave or 2) make some of your own work? it seems like you know what is best for the titan so why not use all your high intellect and provide it to the community instead of complaining about other peoples' work?

[ajm144k]

besides, this thread is about new wm releases not old ones.

anyone hear anything about alltel coming out with a new rom?

[electronicrice]

Originally Posted by ajm144k

hey electronicrice-

if you cant stop whining about other peoples work, why dont you just shut up and either 1) leave or 2) make some of your own work? it seems like you know what is best for the titan so why not use all your high intellect and provide it to the community instead of complaining about other peoples' work?

Hi,

No I'm not going to shut up because 1) this is a public forum and I'll voice my opinion if I feel like it and 2) my original post was MY opinion regarding there being new WM releases any time soon. And if I'm going to be attacked regarding that position, then I will defend myself. So unless you have something intelligent to bring forth, go back to kindergarten.

[kashabrown]

I kind of thought gguru's responce was a bit dicey myself. I have used both developer's work and at this point my phone has DCD's latest itineration on it. I have tried to utilize the latest kitchen but I am having major problems cooking a rom that will run on my XV6800 without bugs - I would sure like to try it and make it work.

I thought that was what this forum is all about - spirited discussion relating to topics...

[electronicrice]

It's supposed to be..

[jakdillard]

How about you guys just relax .... or close this thread ..... which ever comes first

[gsvnet]

You want some no2chem apps that aren't necessary to make the phone better? nueUSB, nueLED, nueBattery, etc. Anything that has been implemented into the ROM to replace original Windows components is unecessary and does not NEED to be there. They're just prettier apps, designed to give a LITTLE more control over something that works fine on its own.

Sorry, but that's just your opinion.

I find all of these apps to be useful and they are for a reason - to offer what WM simply doesn't (natively). Even though I'm using DCD's 3.2.5 at the moment I still have nueLED as I prefer not to have a signal light flashing...

Considering that I've flashed pratically every rom released and tested with the EXACT same setup of applications and pagepool, I HAVE in fact noticed a difference between all of them. I'm sorry if you think you're so high up that my matter of actually USING the phone doesn't count as testing, sorry, that's my benchmark and that's how I value a rom release.

I'm sorry, but your qualitative 'benchmark' has no value whatsoever.