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Old 07-29-2008, 06:47 PM
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Re: Htc Mogul And Touch Driver Updates Coming Soon !!!!

Now I thought the issue was not as much a technical issue more of a licensing issue.
If Qualcom did not properly license the architecture for their graphics processor then MS nor HTC can build drivers for it.
I assumed this is why HTC said it was not as simple as writing drivers for it, and this would make more sense.

I heard this through the grapevine reading many posts on the topic, so take this with a grain of salt.

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Old 07-30-2008, 10:19 AM
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Re: Htc Mogul And Touch Driver Updates Coming Soon !!!!

I used to work at Sprint developing next-gen business mobility and security apps for eneterprises and interacted very often with "the phone guy" (wont mention his name) who decided all the next generation phones including the Mogul (at that time). I can tell you with a high degree of certainty that I wouldnt expect a Microsoft driver solution for the Mogul.

At Sprint, "the phone guy" spends his days (and nights) working with more vendors than we have fingers and toes. He doesnt have time to think backwards, and ultimately it is his decision to put pressure on his vendors for a solution, but only if his boss, and their boss, and their boss demand it. Otherwise, it distracts from the forward -looking momentum that all telecommunications companies must have to stay in business.

The product managers at Sprint care about the phone, because a phone, or line of phones are their babies. They tend to whine about these problems we complain about for us, but it does little good. Sprint is run by decisions from the top down. And the people at the top have no clue what is happening beneath them. (yes, my former angst) But as a rule, Sprint only cares about windows mobile from an enterprise/business user perspective. They make the bulk of the revenue on the WinMo phones from corporations/businesses ordering hundreds or thousands of phones.

That is starting to change, as with the popularity of the consumer focused Centro as a smart device, but it is a terrible strategy to develop backwards, and I highly doubt the phone guy would ask a software vendor to develop a driver for an outdated semiconductor chip, especially when they dont even have the designs/patents for them. I would love to be proved wrong. It may restore my faith in Sprint if they were able to pull this kind of muscle with a vendor whether it be Qualcomm or Microsoft.
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Old 07-31-2008, 02:48 PM
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Re: Htc Mogul And Touch Driver Updates Coming Soon !!!!

I don't see what Microsoft has to do with video drivers for HTC ...Did the tech support from HTC doesn't exist anymore and they using the Microsoft team ? Also if I have to depend on Microsoft to realize something to be fixed, maybe my children in next life they gone be happy to use it.
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Old 07-31-2008, 09:35 PM
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Re: Htc Mogul And Touch Driver Updates Coming Soon !!!!

I would love for this to be true since I will be keeping my mogul for the next year or two. Not upgrading until a WM phone comes out with a screen over 3.2 inches with a slide out keyboard.
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Re: Htc Mogul And Touch Driver Updates Coming Soon !!!!

vapourware and rumors. I'll believe this one when I see it, keep dreaming.
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Old 08-08-2008, 10:24 PM
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Re: Htc Mogul And Touch Driver Updates Coming Soon !!!!

Yea, I wish ppl would stop posting that ms would NOT make drivers... has anybody looked at a windows instalation cd? or ran a windows update in the last 10 years...
microsoft typically does write/liscence drivers and stamp thier name on them.. that way they can have more control over the overall windows experience..
I remember having to remove windows bluetooth drivers and install drivers from one of the manufacturers for better bt performace on my laptop.
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Old 08-09-2008, 02:01 PM
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Re: Htc Mogul And Touch Driver Updates Coming Soon !!!!

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Yea, I wish ppl would stop posting that ms would NOT make drivers... has anybody looked at a windows instalation cd? or ran a windows update in the last 10 years...
microsoft typically does write/liscence drivers and stamp thier name on them.. that way they can have more control over the overall windows experience..
I remember having to remove windows bluetooth drivers and install drivers from one of the manufacturers for better bt performace on my laptop.
That's for the PC... Take a look at the different mobile windows platforms that have ever come out... I don't think a single one of them has accelerated graphics drivers made by microsoft. Not even PC's have hardware accelerated drivers from microsoft, just display drivers. There just isn't any evidence saying that MS is going to make graphics drivers for the Mogul. Maybe, just maybe, MS will play a hand in including some drivers in the next iteration of windows mobile, but as space limited as mobile devices are, I wouldn't even count on that...
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Re: Htc Mogul And Touch Driver Updates Coming Soon !!!!

My contact at Microsoft was wrong. I have a PPC-6800 and had no idea other posts like this were being put on this site. I do not have much free time to do much. I was told this is a developmental website, and that many of the people in this website would be pleased to hear that info. I am terribly sorry for this misinformation. Thanks for all over your input on this subject. I will see to it this shall not happen again.
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Old 08-20-2008, 03:18 PM
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Re: Htc Mogul And Touch Driver Updates Coming Soon !!!!

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My contact at Microsoft was wrong. I have a PPC-6800 and had no idea other posts like this were being put on this site. I do not have much free time to do much. I was told this is a developmental website, and that many of the people in this website would be pleased to hear that info. I am terribly sorry for this misinformation. Thanks for all over your input on this subject. I will see to it this shall not happen again.
Haha, dur. Of course he was. Now this will put to rest the argument from all 2 people that microsoft COULD in fact have this development under way.

Could this be locked now?
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Old 08-21-2008, 01:03 PM
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Re: Htc Mogul And Touch Driver Updates Coming Soon !!!!

Wow! Some of us Titan users are a bitter bunch on this topic.
Hope springs eternal, from this user, on the idea of Mogul driver updates but maybe next time we could have a little more SOLID explaination of what's going on with driver development to avoid bitter feedback on rumors&wispers.
Thanks for attempting to enhance the community with info cjegan. Tell your buddy at MS he made a bunch of us cry. haha
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