Using Mogul as Modem

RED_RAIN · #1 (**permalink**) 07-22-2008, 02:50 PM

First time having to do this as going on trip but need to work (Yes, I know this sucks), is there a guide out there? I did a search and they seem to talk about more advanced problems but not the actual setup.

Should I just use PDAnet?

I would prefer a solution with no software to install, I'm fine with reg hacks etc.

Is this video valid? http://www.scottklarr.com/topic/147/...odem-for-free/

**Yay 4 Juggs** · #2 (**permalink**) 07-22-2008, 02:52 PM

pdanet is a very good option look into it

**bedoig** · #3 (**permalink**) 07-22-2008, 03:03 PM

Well, there can be a lot of variables, but it's essentially a three step process:

1) On your Mogul go to Start-->Programs-->Internet Sharing. Choose USB (or bluetooth if you're going that route) as your PC Connection, Sprint PCS as your Network Connection, and hit connect.

2) Plug USB cable into phone.

3) Plug other end of USB cable into computer.

Done.

*Assuming you are using a Windows PC with Activesync/Windows Mobile Device Center installed. If you are using the latest Sprint ROM (3.56) then a small registry edit is also in order. Post more details of your exact needs (type of computer/OS, ROM on phone, desired connection method, etc) and we'll have it ironed out in no time

knlmwq · #4 (**permalink**) 07-22-2008, 03:09 PM

I am using my phone as a modem for the first time as well and I installed pdanet on my phone. It is working fine but I dont know if im going to be charged the PAM price for doing this. I am on the lastest rom, the official 6.1 one from htc/sprint. Any insight? Thanks

**Yay 4 Juggs** · #5 (**permalink**) 07-22-2008, 03:14 PM

using pdanet circumvents the pam policy...

gof · #6 (**permalink**) 07-22-2008, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Yay 4 Juggs

using pdanet circumvents the pam policy...

I don't think I've actually seen someone post this, but is this simply because people select "Sprint PCS" vs "Phone as Modem"?

**nxtech3** · #7 (**permalink**) 07-22-2008, 05:04 PM

i might be wrong as i have never used pdanet but i believe it "camoflouges" the phones internet connection. it fools sprint into thinking the phone is using its regular internet and not "tethered" to a computer instead of realizing the truth. I'm sure someone will correct me if im wrong lol. Personally i would rather use a reg hack and internet sharing on the device since its free.

**bedoig** · #8 (**permalink**) 07-22-2008, 06:01 PM

Honestly, I've never seen a shred of evidence that suggests PDANet does anything to "hide" the fact that your tethering. PDANet, USBModem, WModem, etc all merely emulate a dial-up modem, allowing your PC to see it as such. Then you use normal dialing rules just as your phone does on its own - ie, dial #777 and enter a username/password if your network requires it.

Carrier efforts to curb tethering are usually crude. Verizon typically just removes or hides Internet Sharing and/or WModem. Sprint typically includes the apps, as they do offer PAM plans, but attempt to restrict dialing #777 unless you actually have PAM on your account. In the past, rilphone.dll was used to block those data calls, resulting in all those error 67 messages. Recently, Sprint merely used the ForceCellConnection reg key to lock Internet Sharing to the Phone as Modem profile. I'm not entirely sure that even does anything though, because I can connect just fine using that profile and I've never been charged, or even seen any differences noted on my bill. And I don't have PAM on my account. It might be worth looking into what settings actually differ between the PAM and Sprint PCS profiles.

I don't think they really have anything in place to "detect" that you are tethering. Even their 5GB caps on data cards and PAM plans don't appear to be affecting non-PAM tethering, leading me to believe that they just really aren't paying attention. It seems strange that these major networks would be so lax with their usage restrictions, but that is the way it seems to be. I've used every phone I've ever owned on Sprint and Verizon (including several dumb-phones) to connect to their data networks. All you need are the appropriate drivers and the right dialing rules.

There is always someone, often an employee, who will tell you that the networks know exactly what is going on, that they are watching us, and that you are going to be charged thousands of dollars. I've never seen any creditable support of any of this though. Outside of maybe some idiot that uses it as their only internet connection and downloads hundreds of GBs of data per month, I'd say it is fairly safe. That said, I'd encourage everyone not to abuse the system. Appreciate the fact that you have speedy internet access when you really need it. Let's not ruin a good thing.

Different opinions, comments?

**TurboFool** · #9 (**permalink**) 07-22-2008, 06:25 PM

I'm using no2chem's ROM, which I suspect removes any of the PAM functionality, as I have yet to be charged by Sprint for my phone-as-modem use.

enormous · #10 (**permalink**) 07-22-2008, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by TurboFool

I'm using no2chem's ROM, which I suspect removes any of the PAM functionality, as I have yet to be charged by Sprint for my phone-as-modem use.

I have been wanting to do this as well, but I haven't been able to install wmwifimodem on any of no2chem's 2.2pre roms ("not digitally signed with a trusted certificate" error). Could you share how you are able to do your tethering, and if you are able to use wifi to share with the computer? Thanks.