3.16.651.0 IS real, and so is GPS - Link inside - NOT official release

[kd5ftn]

I don't know a lot about the technology, but I think this is correct.

I have experimentally determined that our phones are, in fact using A-GPS

Indoors, using VisualGPSce, I was seeing 4-5 satellites with a steady fix.

I then turned off the phone (flight mode), and rebooted. I saw 1-2 satellites in and out without obtaining a fix.

Turned the phone on and booted again with service (2 bars). Within a short while, VisualGPSce finds 5 satellites and a fix.

Thus, it seems to me that with the phone on, the cell towers are chiming in, and A-GPS is being used, being able to get a stronger, quicker fix indoors.

[Joeriginal]

Maybe a stupid question on my part, but did you guys try it outside, it rarely works indoors even my car unit doesnt work when I bring it indoors.

[muyoso]

You need to wait for like 5-10 minutes the first time google maps or live tries to find the satellites, no clue why. You HAVE to be outside, and wait for at least 5 minutes, and it will eventually see 6-9 satellites.

[no2chem]

it takes time, took me 30 minutes to get a signal

[jlboom]

So I downloaded and installed and everything worked on the second try. However, my phone number is different, I'm worried I might have changed something else? Is that normal? Can I just change the number back?

[rmancl]

there are many posts saying its working and a couple of ideas on what to do to make it work but no actual steps. so here is what I did:

!!!!before you start backup your data or move it off the phones memory (storage card will not be effected). also record your A-key if you have it. go to dialer and type ##778 dial. choose view, goto view info on bottom left, then choose a-key. Mine was blank but certain areas have one programmed in. and thats it.

1. Download a) New unlocker b) 3.27 radio c)dcd 2.0 beta (verizon) all downloads referenced in dcd's first post in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=362566

2. Run and install unlocker... i used the .bat file...follow instructions exactly
Note: other than unlocking the phone it does not erase anything or make you lose any settings.

3.Run and install Radio rom... just run the "romupdateutility.exe" that is in the down load.

after installing the radio your phone resets and will not boot past verizon screen, this is NORMAL

4. restart phone into boot loader by holding down the Power and Camera buttons, then, reset the phone with the button on the bottom. this will bring you to the tri color screen

5. Run and install the dcd 2.0 beta rom. Even though the instructions say to make sure you activesync first don't worry about this. It will install and restart your phone.

6. program your phone by doing *228 and choosing option 1. after this you will be able to get online but may not be able to make phone calls. Again don't worry this is Normal.

7. this is where things may be different. When i tried to make an out bound phone call i got a verizon message that my phone could not be authinticated. Previous posts indicated that i would need to call to get my A-key. I called verizon and all they had to do was refresh the authintication in their system and it began to work properly. In your area you may need the A-key. set the a key the same way you viewed it earlier but choose edit instead of view. the password is 000000

8. now the fun part GPS!!!!!!
go to your dialer screen and choose menu at the bottom right and then choose options. Goto the services tab and do Get Settings for Location Setting. change option to location NOT 911 only.

8a. Install the GPS application of your choice...google maps works perfect.
8b. In google maps goto menu and choose to use gps. Give it up to 30 minuntes in a window or outside and voila gps working.

Sorry for the lengthy post but I hope it helps people get this done properly and with a little more confidence.

special thanks to all those who figured this stuff out especially dcd and kmartburrito for supplying the rom and proting it over to verizon. also to ImCokeMan for the unlocker. I didn't figure all this out on my own, i just put it in one place.

[kwyatt]

muyoso and no2chem are exactly right.. My gps wasn't working and I thought i would have to reflash but you just have to go outside and be patient

[Manson2k]

Okay, a couple of things I have noticed...

Didn't have any problems with the install (once I did it on an XP machine, my Vista box wouldn't even start the install.) Everything works here for me except for my Exchange email. All my contacts and calendar events synced fine from the web, but i am not receiving new email, nor can I send any new email through messaging. I will hit send on the message, it will go into the outbox, Messaging will sync with the server, but the message will never send (it stays in the outbox.) Furthermore, new email is sitting on the server in the Inbox, this will sync, but the messages never come down to my phone.

Thoughts from anyone?

[rmancl]

Originally Posted by Manson2k

Okay, a couple of things I have noticed...

Didn't have any problems with the install (once I did it on an XP machine, my Vista box wouldn't even start the install.) Everything works here for me except for my Exchange email. All my contacts and calendar events synced fine from the web, but i am not receiving new email, nor can I send any new email through messaging. I will hit send on the message, it will go into the outbox, Messaging will sync with the server, but the message will never send (it stays in the outbox.) Furthermore, new email is sitting on the server in the Inbox, this will sync, but the messages never come down to my phone.

Thoughts from anyone?

I just tried it on my verizon phone and my email sent immediately with my exchange server and i am receiveing mail with no issue, took seconds both ways. Did you check the box to "Send/receive when I click Send. Also might want to set schedule to As Items arrive.

[derrickmd18]

ok just brought a mogul off ebay today for a good price FINALLY =D>

but have a question. anyone try to install and use MMS yet?