Sprint HTC Evo 4G

[Biker1]

@PhantomApolyon

Add-On: I just read your reply again. DO me a favor. Don't try to twist things around. I am stating facts as I see them regarding Sprint, as they pertain to me. You can defend Sprint all you want, but don't Direct certain Innuendos towards me. I don't do that with anyone here, so I'd appreciate if you didn't do it to me.
And there is No other Plan that would give me what I have now for the price I am paying, or even come close, so you may want to give more consideration regarding your quick answers to issues that I am bringing up. So as not to clutter the thread, I'd be happy to discuss these issues further via pm if you so desire.

I read your reply and let me say this. I am not ranting. I am stating facts as they are. 3G to 4G I can understand requiring a 4G plan if one is on a 3G plan, if there is no work around. But with all of the other 3G devices that came out, I should not have to be required to switch plans if my Diamond works fine on it, the other devices should also. Sugar Coating the reasons that Sprint does things does not change the fact that there are most likely work arounds that Sprint does not choose to incorporate.
I have Unlimited Data with my plan. I have 3g with my plan and device. It appears that anytime Sprint comes out with a New Non WinMo Device, they want me to change my plan in order to purchase the new Non WinMo phone. I won't pay 100's or 1000's of dollars more over a 2 year contract period in order to purchase a New Device.
I am confused by your explanation as I don't know what really pertains to me and what does not. If the new devices are 3G EVDO capable, they should work on the Plan I now pay for.
If Sprint requires certain codes for certain devices, than that is something that most likely can be adjusted unless they just want to get Customers off of certain plans because the other Required plans are more Profitable for them.
Don't confuse Rants with Facts.
I have been a Sprint Customer for over 10 Years and have put 1000's of Dollars into their Kitty.
There is something Fundamentally wrong with requiring Customers to change Plans that would cost 1000's of Dollars more than what they are on now, to get less.

[gTen]

Originally Posted by Biker1

I have been a Sprint Customer for over 10 Years and have put 1000's of Dollars into their Kitty.
There is something Fundamentally wrong with requiring Customers to change Plans that would cost 1000's of Dollars more than what they are on now, to get less.

I think a kitty is worth putting thousands of dollars into IMO..

That said sprint is just trying to make most out of its money..to them if they can switch 2 people off SERO thats like 1 extra subscriber.

Of course from a SERO perspective it is a huge money saver...it kinda boils down to this...what do you use your phone for.

If you wanna just make calls and other things on the side SERO is perfect and is too cheap to swap.

If you wana download movies and etc and utilize 4G it is another story..

lets use dial-up as an example it costs $10 a month and is great for nayone who just wants internet here and there..but when more is given you pay mroe for broadband..it boils down to what exactly you need and want.

It boils down to what exactly the carrier gives...as it stands it is not enough to get some people to swap others swap for 4G because it is worth it to them...at one point you will probably give up the SERO but the carrier ahs to give enough incentive in your mind to justify the cost.

[Biker1]

Originally Posted by gTen

I think a kitty is worth putting thousands of dollars into IMO..

That said sprint is just trying to make most out of its money..to them if they can switch 2 people off SERO thats like 1 extra subscriber.

Of course from a SERO perspective it is a huge money saver...it kinda boils down to this...what do you use your phone for.

If you wanna just make calls and other things on the side SERO is perfect and is too cheap to swap.

If you wana download movies and etc and utilize 4G it is another story..

lets use dial-up as an example it costs $10 a month and is great for nayone who just wants internet here and there..but when more is given you pay mroe for broadband..it boils down to what exactly you need and want.

It boils down to what exactly the carrier gives...as it stands it is not enough to get some people to swap others swap for 4G because it is worth it to them...at one point you will probably give up the SERO but the carrier ahs to give enough incentive in your mind to justify the cost.

To clarify, I don't have SERO. I pay over $100 a month for my plan which is the Free & Clear Family Plan.

[gradynyc]

Originally Posted by Biker1

To clarify, I don't have SERO. I pay over $100 a month for my plan which is the Free & Clear Family Plan.

I had a powerpack family with (3) lines and unlimted data that was over $100. I now have an Everything Data Family 1500 3 lines - with Any Mobile, Anytime and (3) $5 unlimited incoming add-ons. It's exactly the same price, maybe $1 more and I can change to any phone I want. Glad I changed. I had the same attitude you have but I decided the best thing to do was make a deal. In pouting about it your dealtime is getting slimmer. You really will be paying a whole lot more if you don't act soon. The pickings on deals are getting slimmer and slimmer. This is just my experience.

[PhantomApolyon]

Originally Posted by Biker1

@PhantomApolyon

Add-On: I just read your reply again. DO me a favor. Don't try to twist things around. I am stating facts as I see them regarding Sprint, as they pertain to me. You can defend Sprint all you want, but don't Direct certain Innuendos towards me. I don't do that with anyone here, so I'd appreciate if you didn't do it to me.
And there is No other Plan that would give me what I have now for the price I am paying, or even come close, so you may want to give more consideration regarding your quick answers to issues that I am bringing up. So as not to clutter the thread, I'd be happy to discuss these issues further via pm if you so desire.

There is nothing to discuss, your issue or "fault" lies with the North American cellular industry. That being said, I'll be happy to try and work out something that will work for you, including discounts that would give you more device freedom.

Originally Posted by Biker1

I read your reply and let me say this. I am not ranting. I am stating facts as they are. 3G to 4G I can understand requiring a 4G plan if one is on a 3G plan, if there is no work around. But with all of the other 3G devices that came out, I should not have to be required to switch plans if my Diamond works fine on it, the other devices should also. Sugar Coating the reasons that Sprint does things does not change the fact that there are most likely work arounds that Sprint does not choose to incorporate.

You were misled and it COULD have been done. I have tons of customers on Free & Clear plans with android/blackberry. Hell, my employee plan is a variation of a Free & Clear Plan and I can use whatever phone I want.

Originally Posted by Biker1

I have Unlimited Data with my plan. I have 3g with my plan and device. It appears that anytime Sprint comes out with a New Non WinMo Device, they want me to change my plan in order to purchase the new Non WinMo phone. I won't pay 100's or 1000's of dollars more over a 2 year contract period in order to purchase a New Device.

Again, you primarily have a complaint about the industry, this isn't a Sprint-only thing...that being said I'll be happy to discuss this further with you via pm to at least SEE if theres anything that works better for you.

Originally Posted by Biker1

I am confused by your explanation as I don't know what really pertains to me and what does not. If the new devices are 3G EVDO capable, they should work on the Plan I now pay for.

Sometimes yes, sometimes no....it depends on the technology type.

Originally Posted by Biker1

If Sprint requires certain codes for certain devices, than that is something that most likely can be adjusted unless they just want to get Customers off of certain plans because the other Required plans are more Profitable for them.

Sometimes we can adjust the codes but sometimes the plans didn't allow for the adjustments. Also realize that it IS a business and of course they want to make more money where they can. That being said, there is NO better value to be had in the North American wireless industry(currently) outside of Sprint ESPECIALLY when your talking about data devices.

Originally Posted by Biker1

There is something Fundamentally wrong with requiring Customers to change Plans that would cost 1000's of Dollars more than what they are on now, to get less.

I really don't see how you'd be getting less on any of our new plans, in general, however if your a 10 year customer you may already get the early upgrades.

With our new family plans you woulld get:

- Any Mobile Any Time(which basically means unlimited minutes for most people)
- Full 2 year upgrades every 12 months
- Unlimited Data regardless of the phone you choose and data type it supports.
- Sprint Nav, Sprint TV, Any promo data apps that come out, BB Service, etc.
- 7pm N&W

[JQuill]

Originally Posted by PhantomApolyon

There is nothing to discuss, your issue or "fault" lies with the North American cellular industry. That being said, I'll be happy to try and work out something that will work for you, including discounts that would give you more device freedom.



You were misled and it COULD have been done. I have tons of customers on Free & Clear plans with android/blackberry. Hell, my employee plan is a variation of a Free & Clear Plan and I can use whatever phone I want.




Again, you primarily have a complaint about the industry, this isn't a Sprint-only thing...that being said I'll be happy to discuss this further with you via pm to at least SEE if theres anything that works better for you.



Sometimes yes, sometimes no....it depends on the technology type.




Sometimes we can adjust the codes but sometimes the plans didn't allow for the adjustments. Also realize that it IS a business and of course they want to make more money where they can. That being said, there is NO better value to be had in the North American wireless industry(currently) outside of Sprint ESPECIALLY when your talking about data devices.



I really don't see how you'd be getting less on any of our new plans, in general, however if your a 10 year customer you may already get the early upgrades.

With our new family plans you woulld get:

- Any Mobile Any Time(which basically means unlimited minutes for most people)
- Full 2 year upgrades every 12 months
- Unlimited Data regardless of the phone you choose and data type it supports.
- Sprint Nav, Sprint TV, Any promo data apps that come out, BB Service, etc.
- 7pm N&W

You just owned this dude like 6 times in one post. Hillarious. I love it when somebody with a couple hundred posts knows more about something than somebody with a couple THOUSAND. I mean jesus I've never heard such un-informed ranting. Guy has no clue how the technology actually works, just wants something because he feels like he's entitled to it. Typical red state moron.

[PhantomApolyon]

Originally Posted by JQuill

You just owned this dude like 6 times in one post. Hillarious. I love it when somebody with a couple hundred posts knows more about something than somebody with a couple THOUSAND. I mean jesus I've never heard such un-informed ranting. Guy has no clue how the technology actually works, just wants something because he feels like he's entitled to it. Typical red state moron.

SO many people feel that "entitlement" these days, it makes me sick

[Biker1]

Originally Posted by JQuill

You just owned this dude like 6 times in one post. Hillarious. I love it when somebody with a couple hundred posts knows more about something than somebody with a couple THOUSAND. I mean jesus I've never heard such un-informed ranting. Guy has no clue how the technology actually works, just wants something because he feels like he's entitled to it. Typical red state moron.

If your the same JQuill, we had enough of your Sprint Fanboy/girl ****over at SU. That's why most members left years ago.
If you have something to say about me personally, pm me. Better yet, keep it to yourself as I would appreciate not having to listen to your stuff like what you were dishing out at SU.

You may want to read my "couple 1000 posts, as you may see that I have been very helpful to others, and you may learn a thing or two.
Same old JQuill from SU.................Hopefully won't have to read the same old here as we were all were subjugated to over there. Don't you gotta go Mod or something

[JQuill]

Originally Posted by Biker1

If your the same JQuill, we had enough of your Sprint Fanboy/girl ****over at SU. That's why most members left years ago.
If you have something to say about me personally, pm me. Better yet, keep it to yourself as I would appreciate not having to listen to your stuff like what you were dishing out at SU.

You may want to read my "couple 1000 posts, as you may see that I have been very helpful to others, and you may learn a thing or two.
Same old JQuill from SU.................Hopefully won't have to read the same old here as we were all were subjugated to over there. Don't you gotta go Mod or something

Dude honestly. You're a wierdo. I have no clue what "SU" is...I have never been a mod on any message board. I literally have NO idea what you're talking about. And therefore neither do you....owned 7 times, say hi to your mother for me.

[robotphood]

Originally Posted by PhantomApolyon

You were misled and it COULD have been done. I have tons of customers on Free & Clear plans with android/blackberry. Hell, my employee plan is a variation of a Free & Clear Plan and I can use whatever phone I want.

What about a current shared messaging plan with a Data Plus Pack on one of the lines?