Reputation System

[mikewest]

Originally Posted by rainfreak

Yup, I just made you surpass your own goals. Nice job!

Thanks! That was actually a joke though. I thought maybe everyone would chip in and make a PPCPIMP!

[willysp]

Originally Posted by psiphi

Does anyone else see the irony in wanting to increase your geek reputation? I spent years learning to reduce it....

I'd like to think geeks are the new jocks!

[willysp]

Unfortunately the reputation system has become a bit of a popularity contest like American Idol. I am increasingly astounded by the posts that get 'thanks'. We've got a lot of Sanjayas getting reputation based on popularity and not technical contribution.

Don't get me wrong - there are lots of technical contributors who richly deserve every single point of reputation they've received. Folks like Calk, Olipro, MightMike and Mindfrost (just to list a few at random - there are LOTS of others) have a Post:Rep ratio of about 1:10, and at the extreme Cmonex is 1:50.

Now, I have no problem with "Thanks" being essentially a "yeah, rah! funny! let's have a drink!" pat on the back; but let's not read any technical reputation where it doesn't exist.

And, I'll have you know that the above is based on years of experience and an exhaustive statistical analysis (at least 2.5 minutes!) And that's all for today from the grumpy old fart corner!

Cheers,
Simon Cowell

[MordyT]

Originally Posted by willysp

Unfortunately the reputation system has become a bit of a popularity contest like American Idol. I am increasingly astounded by the posts that get 'thanks'. We've got a lot of Sanjayas getting reputation based on popularity and not technical contribution.

Don't get me wrong - there are lots of technical contributors who richly deserve every single point of reputation they've received. Folks like Calk, Olipro, MightMike and Mindfrost (just to list a few at random - there are LOTS of others) have a Post:Rep ratio of about 1:10, and at the extreme Cmonex is 1:50.

Now, I have no problem with "Thanks" being essentially a "yeah, rah! funny! let's have a drink!" pat on the back; but let's not read any technical reputation where it doesn't exist.

And, I'll have you know that the above is based on years of experience and an exhaustive statistical analysis (at least 2.5 minutes!) And that's all for today from the grumpy old fart corner!

Cheers,
Simon Cowell

tbqh, thanks is for when someone helps you. it doesn't matter if he told you to restart your phone and that fixed your issue, the thanks button is supposed to replace the need to make a new posts saying "Thanks, that helped". The bar is just an idiotic, ok, a nice way of measuring how helpful a person is. Very flawed (as some huge helpers don't get thanked,) and it causes people to ask for thanks.

[willysp]

Originally Posted by MordyT

tbqh, thanks is for when someone helps you. it doesn't matter if he told you to restart your phone and that fixed your issue, the thanks button is supposed to replace the need to make a new posts saying "Thanks, that helped". The bar is just an idiotic, ok, a nice way of measuring how helpful a person is. Very flawed (as some huge helpers don't get thanked,) and it causes people to ask for thanks.

I totally agree with your statement - telling someone to restart their phone is a 'technical contribution'.

The following examples of Thanked posts are what I was mentioning in my post and are not technical contributions:

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showpost.p...postcount=4884

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showpost.p...64&postcount=5

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showpost.p...7&postcount=44

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showpost.p...&postcount=123

Would you tell me that any of those 4 posts contribute technical knowledge to a technical forum, and should enhance one's reputation in a technical forum?

Again, I really don't care, but let's not pretend that "Reputation" necessarily means technical contributions. With so many people having a day-glo sig pimping and basically saying "PLEASE, PLEASE Thank Me For Just Being Me!", it's not gonna change.

Reputation for some (like Calk and others I mentioned) is a real gauge of contribution.

Reputation for many others is just a vote for popularity and inclusion.

Peace.

[rainfreak]

Originally Posted by willysp

I totally agree with your statement - telling someone to restart their phone is a 'technical contribution'.

The following examples of Thanked posts are what I was mentioning in my post and are not technical contributions:

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showpost.p...postcount=4884

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showpost.p...64&postcount=5

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showpost.p...7&postcount=44

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showpost.p...&postcount=123

Would you tell me that any of those 4 posts contribute technical knowledge to a technical forum, and should enhance one's reputation in a technical forum?

Again, I really don't care, but let's not pretend that "Reputation" necessarily means technical contributions. With so many people having a day-glo sig pimping and basically saying "PLEASE, PLEASE Thank Me For Just Being Me!", it's not gonna change.

Reputation for some (like Calk and others I mentioned) is a real gauge of contribution.

Reputation for many others is just a vote for popularity and inclusion.

Peace.

Can I be included because I am popular?

The mathematical likelihood of you showing two of cataclysm13's thanked posts, of your four examples, is astronomical. However, since I am the one that thanked both of those particular posts, I would be happy to elaborate for you as to why. But please understand that it was not for reasons of logic or a reflection of his contributions to the site. Instead, I did it because I can. And since this is an online community, and we are all members of the community, we all have the right to choose what we thank people for.

Did I give cataclysm13 thanks for his ability to count correctly all the way up in the four digits? Yes, that is partly true. Did I thank him because I thought it was funny because a few pages prior, in that same thread, he called me out for breaking the thread rules and posting too quickly? Yes, that is also partly true. Did I click that little ominous button because he is my son and I wanted to help him gain VIP access? Ok, you got me there... that was part of it, too. Lastly, did I help to build his reputation level for the simple reason that I can? Damn, you got me red handed again.

I often click thanks for posts that are helpful in a technical way. I also click thanks for posts that are funny to me, for new people who introduce themselves, and for no other reason than to do it. I admit, I might be addicted to clicking that little button o' love, but I am a high functioning addict and haven't let it affect other aspects of my [online] life yet.

I think everyone who is concerned with the "improper" use of the thanks button, and the inherent reputation system, needs to remember a couple of things:

1. Sometimes a post that gets thanks are for reasons that you may not understand or agree with.
2. The reputation system is flawed; like most things and every human being.
3. This is an online community for humans; see rules number 1 and 2.

I have over 5,000 points for reputation. I assure you that more than half of those are not for technical help, but rather from people for some smartass comment or picture that I posted. But I don't think that means that I shouldn't get the thanks, or the points associated with them, because I still offered someone something they enjoyed or found useful. I think moving forward we all should just keep in mind that we are here for knowledge and fun.

Now if you'll please excuse me, I need to go find recent posts from cataclysm13 so that I can thank them. And while I am at it, I am going to thank your post above, too. Because I can.

[InvincibleLiving]

Originally Posted by rainfreak

Can I be included because I am popular?

The mathematical likelihood of you showing two of cataclysm13's thanked posts, of your four examples, is astronomical. However, since I am the one that thanked both of those particular posts, I would be happy to elaborate for you as to why. But please understand that it was not for reasons of logic or a reflection of his contributions to the site. Instead, I did it because I can. And since this is an online community, and we are all members of the community, we all have the right to choose what we thank people for.

Did I give cataclysm13 thanks for his ability to count correctly all the way up in the four digits? Yes, that is partly true. Did I thank him because I thought it was funny because a few pages prior, in that same thread, he called me out for breaking the thread rules and posting too quickly? Yes, that is also partly true. Did I click that little ominous button because he is my son and I wanted to help him gain VIP access? Ok, you got me there... that was part of it, too. Lastly, did I help to build his reputation level for the simple reason that I can? Damn, you got me red handed again.

I often click thanks for posts that are helpful in a technical way. I also click thanks for posts that are funny to me, for new people who introduce themselves, and for no other reason than to do it. I admit, I might be addicted to clicking that little button o' love, but I am a high functioning addict and haven't let it affect other aspects of my [online] life yet.

I think everyone who is concerned with the "improper" use of the thanks button, and the inherent reputation system, needs to remember a couple of things:

1. Sometimes a post that gets thanks are for reasons that you may not understand or agree with.
2. The reputation system is flawed; like most things and every human being.
3. This is an online community for humans; see rules number 1 and 2.

I have over 5,000 points for reputation. I assure you that more than half of those are not for technical help, but rather from people for some smartass comment or picture that I posted. But I don't think that means that I shouldn't get the thanks, or the points associated with them, because I still offered someone something they enjoyed or found useful. I think moving forward we all should just keep in mind that we are here for knowledge and fun.

Now if you'll please excuse me, I need to go find recent posts from cataclysm13 so that I can thank them. And while I am at it, I am going to thank your post above, too. Because I can.

*points and laughs* YOU were the one that thanked him not once, but TWICE? figures... jk And Willysp I tend to think of you more in the Clay Aiken category than a Simon Cowell or Sanjaya mold... No need to thank me... this was straight from the heart lol... again jk

[KBZL]

Happy Hour!!! Everyone got thanked on this page.

[rainfreak]

Originally Posted by kbussen

Happy Hour!!! Everyone got thanked on this page.

Including you

[KBZL]

Ha Ha. Yay for Happy Hour!