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[steve austin]

Originally Posted by Adrynalyne

I feel like I am talking till I am blue in the face, but has anyone considered the reason that there is not a rush for a firmware update, is because there is no dire need? Stability isn't an issue unless you are careless with third party apps. The battery issue is more hardware related, and from what I have seen, limited to the battery itself.

Seriously. Look back through the history of the i900, and then look back at the i910, and realize that the i900 was in a far worse shape when released than the i910, and on top of that, most of the fixes given to the i900 were INCLUDED in the stock rom that came with the i910. Alot of the new features you see floating around are from beta roms.

I mean...I can't think of any single problem on my device that really warrants an emergency update. Don't get me wrong, I would LOVE to see an update, especially with new features, but its not something I am losing sleep over. If there were stability or performance issues that were plaugeing me, then sure I would want it ASAP, but I don't have those issues.

Want to know a phone that needed and still needs more updates ASAP? The BB Storm. Compare that train wreck off the shelf with the Omnia and you will see what I mean. Its better now, but still nowhere near where it needs to be to become a reliable device.

It appears that you are fine with the phone the way it is. Cool. IF you don't experience the glitches or problems that have been chronicled on this board great. Don't get blue in the face over it. It is not that serious.
I will say that there are things that Apple, Nokia and others do to satisfy the concerns of their clients - BEFORE - the concerns reach a crescendo.

I can name off the top:

1. Consistent w-fi connectivity
2. Storage Full (when not full) issues
3. Battery life
4. Ringer (missing calls due to incremental rise)
5. Flash 2.1 enablement

That I know people on this board would love to see fixed - NOW. Un update could do it tomorrow. Not when they get around to it...if they feel like it. You can hate on Apple if you want but the customer base is loyal because even though they can't cut and paste, bluetooth files and a host of other things (which are known drawbacks before the purchase). But they know that Apple will hook them up on the backend with updates, information, tips and apps. The Hive is resposive to the hoard. I don't get that feeling with Samsung.

They are making new phones left and right, but IMO not supporting of updating the ones they have. Its not a WinMo issue familiarty issue either. It's top-notch customer awareness. That is just me. I may be the only one who feels like this. If I am then ok.

[syrguy1969]

I have to say I am in the middle of the road on these last two posts. The reason we don't see updates on the i910 so far is because the i900 has been out longer and had the updates the i910 learned from. While I do agree there are certain 'glitches' I would like to see addressed, but nothing that is imediate to the operation of the Omnia. The The memory issue is there, but work-able. The only problem I have heard of with wi-fi is the conflict with the useless VZApps app. I haven't heard any flash problems. I know there have been bad batteries out, but when the battery is a good one, the usage is fantastic (AKA....a hardware issue, not firmware). NOW...the ringer issue....I agree this one is a pain in the but and frustrating, but at the same time....doesn't inhibit the operation of the Omnia at all. A few other things I would like to see addressed is the battery monitor issue, the GPS, the TouchPlayer issue (seems fine on some, but I can't get it to find any songs except for one ringtone), and I am sure there are a couple other things I can't think of right now, but again....none of them dire.

I am in no rush for a firmware update, but I would certainly love to see one. I have a feeling the GPS issue will be released as part of a firmware update, but it may not and I am OK with that!!

The Nokia comparison is the same thing...it is released in one place first, gets the updates + fixes, and by the time we see the device it doesn't need an update for a while (if at all). I would be willing to bet the first i900 update came out very soon after it's initial release as well.

So.....in the end all we can do is wait and see!!

[steve austin]

Seriously guys....c'mon. The Samsung Omnia is a "phone" first. That incremental ringtones have been, according to some, a knock against Samsung - before the Omnia - and still persists is hard to believe. More importantly, that it is an "accepted" glitch is mindbogling. Do you know how many calls I've missed due to this!?!?

While I can appreciate that if you have not experienced the numers hiccups that others have it probably feels great. That you know about this site or are savy enough to know how to "seek" out the pertinent sites and forums to remedy your minor ills is to be commended. The point that I must not be making clear is that a comparrison to devices that are much worse than the Omnia at this stage is not an apples to apples comparison.

I did not buy a Blackberry so I don't care. I did not by anLG phonoe so i don't care. I bought the Omnia (everything) phone. Had I paid full freight for this phone AND experienced the less than knowledgable Samsung top-tier technicians, the Clueless Verizon techies, the glitches and the lack of information that exhists - I would be freaking boiling.

I didn't, and I am waiting on my rebate from VZN, so I'm ok. I just don't believe that I should convice myself that i "should" be happy if I am not. Again, this is just me.

[pdub73]

Originally Posted by steve austin

It appears that you are fine with the phone the way it is. Cool. IF you don't experience the glitches or problems that have been chronicled on this board great. Don't get blue in the face over it. It is not that serious.
I will say that there are things that Apple, Nokia and others do to satisfy the concerns of their clients - BEFORE - the concerns reach a crescendo.

I can name off the top:

1. Consistent w-fi connectivity
2. Storage Full (when not full) issues
3. Battery life
4. Ringer (missing calls due to incremental rise)
5. Flash 2.1 enablement

That I know people on this board would love to see fixed - NOW. Un update could do it tomorrow. Not when they get around to it...if they feel like it. You can hate on Apple if you want but the customer base is loyal because even though they can't cut and paste, bluetooth files and a host of other things (which are known drawbacks before the purchase). But they know that Apple will hook them up on the backend with updates, information, tips and apps. The Hive is resposive to the hoard. I don't get that feeling with Samsung.

They are making new phones left and right, but IMO not supporting of updating the ones they have. Its not a WinMo issue familiarty issue either. It's top-notch customer awareness. That is just me. I may be the only one who feels like this. If I am then ok.

It really irks me when I see posts like this... Lemme ask you When the Apple first dropped its Iphone, did they have all the support, and updates and info that they enjoy now? 2 or 3 years, not months, but years later???

you can blame Samsung if you like the the fault is yours, for jumping in the pool with without checking the temperature, are you an impulse buyer? "oh this looks nice....lemme buy it even though I don't know anything about it"

You can do that with little flip-phones, but why pay 2-3 hundred dollars for something without doing ur homework on it...from reading ur last post it must be because you have money to throw away...

There is NO such thing as a perfect phone, I know plenty of Iphone users, its a love, hate relationship, and I see things on there that are cool but I doubt WinMo can do...at the same time they lack the ease we enjoy in modifying our phones, a landscape keyboard, removable memory,

I believe the issue with flash is the opera Mobile browser...I installed a version of Skyfire that works on my omnia and it plays youTube, yahoo video, even silverlight video... I can go to myspace and it plays the music and slide shows...

but if you feel like dishing out the 175 to get out of ur contract, go ahead do us a favor and spare us your belly aching, if you don't have the patience to wait for the support to catch up to the technology please return your Omnia, so someone who appreciates a superior phone can have it,

its no secret the Omnia has flaws, but I knew that going in, but I also know someone will figure out a way around the bugs...and eventually Samsung will develop a fix to a few of the problems some issues may never be fixed, that is so they can get us to shell out some more cash when the next version of the omnia comes out...