Project Death

[jamesus]

Originally Posted by ImCoKeMaN

You have to understand that there is definitely going to be lag time in handoffs in a project like this where numerous people work in their free time. The roms created before were good, but with only one developer there were quicker releases and more bugs. This project is not at all about making a release in one week or anything it's about eliminating the bugs. That being said lets all be patient as the demands were the only things starting to burn out developers in the first place. I personally am not burnt out, but i haven't been able to help much lately since my PPC is out of commission. It also looks like i won't get it back before i leave for 6 weeks this friday.

Don't worry the project is very much alive and as i've seen on another good free software product in response to "when will the next version be released?":
It will be released when it is ready

I agree. Patient is a virtue and will payoff in spades once the project is finished.

[Sogarth]

I don't suppose somebody would be able to state whether or not all of the changes that are desired for the first release candidate are ready or not in the release candidate thread? It would help a great deal to know whether or not we have everything we need for it.

And now something completely different...

Dead Collector: Bring out yer dead. [Hits gong]
Large Man: Here's one.
Dead Collector: Ninepence.
Dead Body: I'm not dead!
Dead Collector: What?
Large Man: Nothing. Here's your ninepence.
Dead Body: I'm not dead!
Dead Collector: 'Ere, he says he's not dead.
Large Man: Yes he is.
Dead Body: I'm not!
Dead Collector: He isn't.
Large Man: Well, he will be soon, he's very ill.
Dead Body: I'm getting better!

[Glossman]

Originally Posted by Alwaysbelieve1

the reason i posted this is because there really hasnt been any posting regarding the project other than who is who on the team.

it almost seemed like the team was formed and then the Apache forum wnet to be a Ghost Town. people would post about incidental issues, but thats about it. the landmark posting seemed to be over.

no i, for one, am not burnt out. i was merely curious to what the status was and wanted everyone's feedback regarding what was going on behind their closed doors.

It still seems like the end-users are the one's who are the most fired up, but the developers have failed to really comment deeply and frankly.

it almost seems as though the Development forum is a mock setup in order to appease the audience while the real work goes on under the radar. I'm sure all can understand why this would occur when they remember what happened to the bombarded Colonel threads, etc.

I don't believe the developers are obliged to comment about anything. The idea behind the separate forum is to give the developers breathing room while they work their magic.

This is not easy work. It's very time-consuming, and it's a lot more difficult if you have people constantly bombarding you with questions.

The question is, do you want your questions answered or do you want a functional ROM kitchen?

Perhaps we need to assign someone to be the project "PR" person so the general forum membership will have information without interrupting the team.

What do you all think?

[mgioia2]

Custom roms ROCK! I don't post on this board because i think people who aren't part of putting them together and testing should leave you guys space to work.

[zoomie]

I am still using the old method to modify some of these ROMs. Is there any way you people can make your initflashfiles.dat easier to modify by placing all the program links in one place such as:

;Programs desk top
;PPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP PPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP
;Directory("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs"):-File("1-Calc Lite.lnk", "\Windows\Program.1-Calc.lnk")
Directory("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs"):-File("Calculator.lnk","\Windows\calc.lnk")
Directory("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs"):-File("Internet Explorer.lnk","\Windows\pie.lnk")
;Directory("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs"):-File("Live Search.lnk","\Windows\Live Search.lnk")
Directory("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs"):-File("Notepad.lnk","\Windows\notepad.lnk")
Directory("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs"):-File("Pics.lnk","\Windows\Pics.lnk")
Directory("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs"):-File("Reset.lnk","\Windows\Reset.lnk")
Directory("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs"):-File("Tipster.lnk","\Windows\Tipster.lnk")
Directory("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs"):-File("Total Commander.lnk","\Windows\Total Commander.lnk")
Directory("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs"):-File("Word Mobile.lnk","\Windows\pword.lnk")
;PPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP PPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP

;UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
;Utility directory
Directory("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs")ermDir("Utils")
Directory("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Utils"):-File("ActiveSync.lnk","\Windows\sync.lnk")
Directory("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Utils"):-File("CABINSTL.lnk","\Windows\CABINSTL.lnk")
Directory("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Utils"):-File("Camera.lnk","\Windows\Camera.lnk")
Directory("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Utils"):-File("DictEditor.lnk","\Windows\DictEditor.lnk")
Directory("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Utils"):-File("Excel Mobile.lnk","\Windows\pxl.lnk")
Directory("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Utils"):-File("File Explorer.lnk","\Windows\fexplore.lnk")
Directory("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Utils"):-File("Modem Link.lnk","\Windows\ATCIUI.lnk")


Directory("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Utils"):-File("Notes.lnk","\Windows\notetake.lnk")
Directory("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Utils"):-File("O2 Plus.lnk","\Windows\O2 Plus.lnk")
Directory("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Utils"):-File("PHM RegEdit.lnk","\Windows\PHM RegEdit.lnk")
Directory("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Utils"):-File("Pictures & Videos.lnk","\Windows\pimg.lnk")
Directory("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Utils"):-File("Pocket Xpdf.lnk","\Windows\Pocket Xpdf.lnk")
Directory("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Utils"):-File("PocketRAR.lnk","\Windows\PocketRAR.lnk")

Directory("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Utils"):-File("PowerPoint Mobile.lnk","\Windows\ppt.lnk")

Directory("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Utils"):-File("Tasks.lnk","\Windows\tasks.lnk")

;Directory("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Utils"):-File("TRE RegEdit.lnk","\Windows\TRE RegEdit.lnk")
;Directory("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Utils"):-File("Modem Link.lnk","\Windows\ATCIUI.lnk")
Directory("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Utils"):-File("WM5torage.lnk","\Windows\WM5torage.lnk")
Directory("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Utils"):-File("Zip.lnk","\Windows\Zip.lnk")



;TTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT TOOLS TTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT
Directory("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Utils")ermDir("Tools")
Directory("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Utils\Tools"):-File("acbPowerMeter.lnk","\Windows\acbPowerMeter.l nk")
Directory("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Utils\Tools"):-File("batti.lnk","\Windows\batti.lnk")
Directory("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Utils\Tools"):-File("ClearTemp.lnk","\Windows\ClearTemp.lnk")
;Directory("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Utils\Tools"):-File("OnLock Prefs.lnk","\Windows\OnLock Prefs.lnk")
;Directory("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Utils\Tools"):-File("PPC-6700 Hacks.lnk","\Windows\PPC-6700 Hacks.lnk")
;Directory("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Utils\Tools"):-File("psShutXP.lnk","\Windows\psShutXP.lnk")
;Directory("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Utils\Tools"):-File("Sipchange1.lnk","\Windows\Sipchange1.lnk")
Directory("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Utils\Tools"):-File("MemMaid.lnk","\Windows\MemMaid.lnk")
Directory("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Utils\Tools"):-File("PhoneCodes.lnk","\Windows\PhoneCodes.lnk")

Directory("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Utils\Tools"):-File("ReclaimRAM.lnk","\Windows\ReclaimRAM.lnk")
Directory("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Utils\Tools"):-File("MemMaid QuickClean.lnk","\Windows\MemMaid QuickClean.lnk")



Directory("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Utils\Tools"):-File("SmartsKey.lnk","\Windows\SmartsKey.lnk")
Directory("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Utils\Tools"):-File("Task Manager.lnk","\Windows\Task Manager.lnk")
Directory("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Utils\Tools"):-File("UPX4PPC.lnk","\Windows\UPX4PPC.lnk")
Directory("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Utils\Tools"):-File("XCPUScalar.lnk","\Windows\XCPUScalar.lnk")



;GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGPPPPPPP PPPPPPPPPPPPPPPSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
Directory("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Utils")irectory("GPS")
Directory("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Utils\GPS"):-File("Live Search.lnk","\Windows\Live Search.lnk")
Directory("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Utils\GPS"):-File("VisualGPS.lnk","\Windows\VisualGPS.lnk")

;UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU




;CCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCC CCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCC
;Connect all these work OK
Directory("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs")ermDir("Connect")
Directory("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Connect"):-File("CommManager.lnk","\Windows\CommManager.lnk")
Directory("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Connect"):-File("ftxPBrowser.lnk","\Windows\ftxPBrowser.lnk")
Directory("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Connect"):-File("Internet Sharing.lnk","\Windows\IntShrUI.lnk")
Directory("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Connect"):-File("Pocket MSN.lnk","\Windows\pmsn.lnk")
Directory("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Connect"):-File("NetUse.lnk","\Windows\NetUse.lnk")
Directory("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Connect"):-File("PocketDHCP.lnk","\Windows\PocketDHCP.lnk")
Directory("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Connect"):-File("PocketPing.lnk","\Windows\PocketPing.lnk")
;Directory("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Connect"):-File("Skype.lnk","\Windows\Skype.lnk")
Directory("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Connect"):-File("Terminal Services Client.lnk", "\Windows\mstsc.lnk")
Directory("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Connect"):-File("Text Messages Retry.lnk","\Windows\SMSRetry.lnk")
Directory("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Connect"):-File("VNCView.lnk","\Windows\vncview.lnk")
Directory("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Connect"):-File("VxUtil.lnk","\Windows\vxUtil.lnk")
Directory("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Connect"):-File("WiFi FoFum.lnk","\Windows\WiFiFoFum.lnk")
Directory("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Connect"):-File("Wireless Modem.lnk","\Windows\WModem.lnk")
;CCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCC CCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCC





;GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG
Directory("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs")irectory("Games")
Directory("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Games"):-File("Solitaire.lnk","\Windows\solitare.lnk")
Directory("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Games"):-File("icon.lnk","\Windows\gamesico.lnk")
Directory("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Games"):-File("Bubble Breaker.lnk","\Windows\BubbleBreaker.lnk")
;Directory("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Games"):-File("Kevtris.lnk","\Windows\Kevtris.lnk")

;FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
;Favs
Directory("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs")ermDir("FAVS")
Directory("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\FAVS"):-File("Live Search.lnk","\Windows\Live Search.lnk")

Directory("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\FAVS"):-File("Star Chart.lnk","\Windows\Star Chart.lnk")
Directory("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\FAVS"):-File("TCPMP.lnk","\Windows\TCPMP.lnk")
;Directory("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\FAVS"):-File("TVRemote.lnk","\Windows\TVRemote.lnk")
;FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

[jamesus]

Originally Posted by Glossman

I don't believe the developers are obliged to comment about anything. The idea behind the separate forum is to give the developers breathing room while they work their magic.

This is not easy work. It's very time-consuming, and it's a lot more difficult if you have people constantly bombarding you with questions.

The question is, do you want your questions answered or do you want a functional ROM kitchen?

Perhaps we need to assign someone to be the project "PR" person so the general forum membership will have information without interrupting the team.

What do you all think?

I think a PR person would be a good idea, at least to inform everyone else what is going one. Simply post a topic in the Apache forum and then provide updates as they become available. Problem is that this topic was posted on the inside. I agree with you that the developers need their room to work, otherwise you will have what happened with verizionguy and colonel where they make these great ROMs and people will start demanding changes.

And wow...the post above me was huge! I think it might be worth about 1000 PPC cash!!!

[Glossman]

Originally Posted by jamesus

I think a PR person would be a good idea, at least to inform everyone else what is going one. Simply post a topic in the Apache forum and then provide updates as they become available. Problem is that this topic was posted on the inside. I agree with you that the developers need their room to work, otherwise you will have what happened with verizionguy and colonel where they make these great ROMs and people will start demanding changes.

And wow...the post above me was huge! I think it might be worth about 1000 PPC cash!!!

Are you volunteering, James?

[jamesus]

I could volunteer if it needs to be done!

[jamesus]

Ok...topic posted here. If there is anything anyone would like posted as an "official" update, they can post themselves or just PM me and I will add a post.

[Glossman]

Originally Posted by jamesus

Ok...topic posted here. If there is anything anyone would like posted as an "official" update, they can post themselves or just PM me and I will add a post.

I think just general project status is good. Things like, issues currently being worked, the build that's in QA and so on.

Just enough to let the general membership know that progress is being made.

Thanks for being so proactive!