Replacing HTC touch pro with Palm Pre

[caseyatbt]

Originally Posted by Hafrust

Your everyday average customer doesn't want to put as much time and effort into their phone as we do. People tend to not want to work that hard at making their phone work efficiently.

This is why I kept my wife on her Centro. She would be frustrated learning and using a WM device. Compared to the simplicity of Palm's former OS.

Originally Posted by woody88

why were you surprised? like I said, we have given HTC so much time on fixing the video, and it is still sluggish. WM in general is slow as well. I don't think it has anything to do with "cute" like you said in previous posts, cause if we all care about "cute" we would all get a hello kitty phone, it's about usability. and if we have to see the spinning wm logo while program loads, that is just not necessary. of course, again, I am just speaking on my own experience of wm and mogul and now tp.

and again, no excuse for the crappy usb headphone port. I understand that it is a "business phone" but if you can give the touch HD a 3.5mm port, then why are you ****ing potential future users of TD2, and TP2?

Originally Posted by Hafrust

I'm not surprised either. WM has become the new Palm. They have really not done much at all to improve their OS over the last few years. If you peel off the masks that Samsung and HTC have put on their newer WM phones, you still have the old, clunky, non-finger friendly interface. It's going to take a huge improvement on Microsoft's part to get WM where it is sought after by the masses. What surprises me is the amount of people here that think that WM is a hugely popular OS. Your everyday average customer doesn't want to put as much time and effort into their phone as we do. People tend to not want to work that hard at making their phone work efficiently. I seriously doubt the Pre will be similar to the instinct. Palm has a long history in the smartphone/pda world. The problem they ran into is similar to what MS is doing now. It took them forever to overhaul their OS. With the amount of time and resources they have put into their new OS, I'm pretty confident it will be successful.

well put guys, i am so disappointed with 6.5 that im going to try something new till wm7 drops, i mean cmon guys we know this is a winmo forum but as a winmo forum nobody here can deny the huge flaws that winmo and htc brings

crappy chipset and gfx performance
no 3.5mm jack
resistive touchscreen only
by far the most outdated OS (Windows CE core still)
not finger friendly at all
without custom roms its practically worthless
at least 1 reset daily for optimized performance
..................

i have gone a long way to be able to cover up winmo and have it in tip top shape but is it too much to ask for a device that looks and performs well out of the box??? and the rest that you do to it is frosting on the cake

Palm and sprint depend on this device to bring their companies up and make some cash as well as gain their reputation back so i doubt that they cut corners with the pre and will make it the best overall device they can

[kevinb13]

Originally Posted by Hafrust

I'm not surprised either. WM has become the new Palm. They have really not done much at all to improve their OS over the last few years. If you peel off the masks that Samsung and HTC have put on their newer WM phones, you still have the old, clunky, non-finger friendly interface. It's going to take a huge improvement on Microsoft's part to get WM where it is sought after by the masses. What surprises me is the amount of people here that think that WM is a hugely popular OS. Your everyday average customer doesn't want to put as much time and effort into their phone as we do. People tend to not want to work that hard at making their phone work efficiently. I seriously doubt the Pre will be similar to the instinct. Palm has a long history in the smartphone/pda world. The problem they ran into is similar to what MS is doing now. It took them forever to overhaul their OS. With the amount of time and resources they have put into their new OS, I'm pretty confident it will be successful.

Completely agree with everything you said. TF3D for example really is only skin deep. They are going above and beyond with their next generation of TF3D making the menu and what not much more finger friendly and overall more efficient. I however don't believe that this burden should be put on HTC's shoulders. I really wish MS would step up and come out with a current OS that looks as good as it is efficient.

[chronster]

You guys do make some pretty good points. I'm going to definitely play with one at the store. But like I said, I jumped into the instinct as one of the first adopters, and I got burned. I really hope the pre does the exact opposite for people.

So in other words, I won't be one of the first adopters, but for reason listed here, I more than likely eventually become an owner.

Originally Posted by kevinb13

Completely agree with everything you said. TF3D for example really is only skin deep. They are going above and beyond with their next generation of TF3D making the menu and what not much more finger friendly and overall more efficient. I however don't believe that this burden should be put on HTC's shoulders. I really wish MS would step up and come out with a current OS that looks as good as it is efficient.

honestlly, htc should get all the credit in the world for all they do to make winmo more enjoyable

but at the pace m$ is going, they are better off with android................ and i think they are realizing just that

[JickBahTech]

I wont be buying one release weekend or anything, but as long as early reviews are positive I'll probably be jumping ship.
Don't know yet if it will be to the Pre or Android, but I think it's time to move on.

What's funny is the dedicated number row on the G1 might make all the difference...

[orionsbuckle]

well i started with the Mogul then the Touch and now the TP....however with each ive had issues with...the mogul mainly...the touch to me was the most solid after running a cooked rom...and now to the TP which Mighty Mike's rom stopped me from placing it under the tire of my car.

i will be checking out the pre and see if i like it and if its as reliable as it sounds. i really think that maybe we should provide support on it if we can here on this site...cus frankly...i spend more time on this site then on any other period lol...

[scorpionreign]

I started with the Palm3 and went to palm 700, also had PPC 6600- Tpro. I will stick with the WM. You have Android G1/ WebOS / and what ever OS the instinct has, that mean the Microsoft Team has to come up with a OS to top them all like the old Pocket PC OS did 97. Stand your ground WM owners because the OS War is on..........Who will be on top WebOS / WM7 / Android

[mixxy]

wow, i didnt expect this many replies from the community. But i'd like to thank everyone for letting their voices be heard.

Honestly, theres way too many pros and cons. but as many have said, until you actually hold the device and use it, it will never be the same.

i just wish there could be webos portability so that we could emulate the actual os on our wm platform.

but i want everyone to ponder on one aspect, regardless of the flaws and problems windows mobile has, youve gotta admit, NO PHONE OUT THERE can match its customizability. The ability to update software, put on new apps, tether(as some1 said). Speaking from professionals position; remote desktop is SO necessary, so many other things that make the TP worth keeping.

Lets see what happens when it gets released, im personally with Bell in Canada, and Im hoping the device gets released soon. But you never know until the device is on hand.

Once again Id like to thank everyone for their opinions, I had no idea that this thread would be this popular so quickly.

[gimme5]

Yes, WM is so customizable. I appreciate the fact that the average consumer wants a device that's ready to use without having to do anything to it. Personally, I love customizing my device to make it behave just the way I want to.

One thing that's making me stay with WM is that I know what it can do. I know what apps I need to do the things I need to run my business.

Need to remotely access my computer, no problem. Need to SSH into a web server? Done. Tethering to a laptop is also a breeze.

One aspect that is very important for me is the user community. We have a strong base of users here and at various other sites, always coming up with new apps that work on a wide variety of devices.

One thing that concerns me with the Pre (or the Iphone), is that for now, it's one OS that works on phones from a single manufacturer... I can sell my TP now, get a different phone from a different company, and still use the same stuff.