AT&T stepping it up like OMGZ! TP2/TD2

[foxnews]

Originally Posted by Drybonz

Lol... trollzing. Thanks to my ignore list for allowing me to ignore you.

I think you misread my words. I never have iphone/ipod/itouch/imac. in fact, never have Apple products. I admired apple producst but too expensive for my need and too much control of what you can do. that is why I always use WM.

reallity is that iphone is a messure standard. a phone can't be popular if it can't beat iphone. wether you like it or not. MS is rushing out WM 6.5 and at the same time WM 7 is in development. this is because of iphone. MS would have just sat there and let us use WM 6 with no changes if there is no iphone competition.

[Dr.8820]

i do think that the iphone is making everyone(samsung, htc, palm, lg, etc.) step their game up. that's about it for the iphone praise.

[monkeyboy]

Originally Posted by foxnews

MS is rushing out WM 6.5 and at the same time WM 7 is in development. this is because of iphone.

MS "rushes" about as well as it "innovates"... and not as good as it copies, although it can't even seem to copy too well these days either...

C'mon the iPhone's been out for TWO YEARS and its UI we've had a glimpse of for even longer... during that time, MS has let us use WM 5.0, 6.0 and 6.1... big Whoop! it all is pretty much the same OS with miniscule changes... in fact aren't they based on the same WinCE kernel?

MS is emulating/copying PalmOS strategy too much... now its even copying PalmOS's stagnation and decay...

[frazell]

Originally Posted by monkeyboy

MS "rushes" about as well as it "innovates"... and not as good as it copies, although it can't even seem to copy too well these days either...

C'mon the iPhone's been out for TWO YEARS and its UI we've had a glimpse of for even longer... during that time, MS has let us use WM 5.0, 6.0 and 6.1... big Whoop! it all is pretty much the same OS with miniscule changes... in fact aren't they based on the same WinCE kernel?

MS is emulating/copying PalmOS strategy too much... now its even copying PalmOS's stagnation and decay...

It is easy to say MS should move faster, but that isn't feasible for them.

The new guy always has a leg up. He is trying something new that solves a problem faced by using the old guy's stuff. The new guy doesn't have any current customers so he doesn't need to cater to them he just needs to argue how his system fixes some pain point in using the old guy's system.

Microsoft is that old guy. The iPhone targeted consumers in the smartphone market. They were a small, but growing part of the market before Apple came in, but they were not really targeted by the old guys. Apple came in and really targeted them 100%. They made the UI flashy, the phone sleek, and the system very easy to use. Apple neglected to put a lot a real "features" into the device, like encryption and secure whipe, as their initial market didn't care about those things.

For Microsoft they have to care about those things. The way it still stands is they have the majority of their customer base tied into enterprise environments. So they need to think carefully about every change they make and how it will impact their current customer base. As a result, they innovate but not as fast as the new guy.

It is easy to say MS should throw the suits to the side and chase the consumer, but that is a very risky move. Drop one market to hunt another and don't cathc your prey? Then you're sitting on a hill starving when you could have had a secure meal waiting at home and let the prey be icing on the cake.

My long way of explaining... It will be slow