Paying for picture mail...
 

Should I be paying the extra $5/mo for picture mail provided we're not able to send picture mail through sprint... Would I be able to still use nueMMS if I didnt have picture mail on my account...?? I just noticed I been gettin charged for it for past 5 months and its kinda bull**** if we're not even supposed to be sending pics...

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Couple of follow-up sites to check to show it had MMS ,BUT NOW IT DOESN'T. HMMMM.. Makes ya wonder huh?
http://reviews.cnet.com/smartphones/...-32471386.html
http://www.1800mobiles.com/sprint-mogul-phone.html
(follow MORE specifications link to left of article) (SMS text and multimedia messaging (pictures and video) )

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bump this up... how are they knowing to deny the MMS from these phones? Does anyone know? My assumption would be that they're probing your account information for what kind of phone you're using and denying accordingly. If that is the case, what if we were to activate an old phone (for example, I have a fusic laying around that supports MMS) and then clone its ESN to the smartphone? At that point, the sprint network would think I was using a fusic, but I'd really be using a vogue. Theoretically, that might push those messages through. Seems like a lot of work for mms, though. haha

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The Arcsoft Picmail program which PDA users used to send MMS messages used a servlet that was located on Sprints site, Just like they have send SMS from their site. Well, sprint actually removed that servlet from their site, with the intention of blocking PDA users.

Normal phones use a non-disclosed protocol for sending Picture Mail. That is why they continue to have this ability. If I knew this API, I would write an app in a second.

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I wonder if it's similar to the coding in the Arcsoft app? I know that a device ID code was part of the login to the servelet, and assumed they had set the servelet to deny any WM ID.

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I bet you would! :mrgreen:

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You never now. I doubt it most of those services run on some odd port and just checks if the message is delivered from a phone on their network. That is a hole nest of trouble, find out that stuff. Plus most likely very illegal. Anyway the Arcsoft App used not port 80, regular web page port. Which was open to pretty much anyone.

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I am confused. Let me explain why before I get flamed. I read all over the site about no MMS anymore for Sprint. When I upgraded to the 6800 I asked them about it (people in store) and they had no clue wtf they were talking about because they told me oh sure, no problem blah blah blah. I sent my sister one, looked like it was fine, but she never got it. Never gave it another thought as I can use nueMMS or something else if I want in the meantime. But I never asked on here if Sprint denying us customers meant we couldn't send MMS or that we couldn't send AND recieve MMS. I tried searching in here, but all threads are closed and point to one central thread in which I didn't find the answer.

So can any of you receive MMS? we just can't send it? I recently received a weird email suddenly that I was registered for picturemail from pictures@sprintpcs.com. It was a welcome email, I posted the text below.

"Thank you for registering for Pictures.

Now you can begin shooting and sending digital pictures with your Vision-enabled PCS Phone from Sprint.

Visit http://pictures.sprintpcs.com to view, manage and share pictures you've already stored through your PCS Phone or you can visit the site from your personal computer to further personalize and share your collection.

Your PCS VisionSM Camera, PCS Phone, and the Pictures Web site all contain information and answers to questions you may encounter.

Thank you again for signing up, and enjoy clarity you can see and hear with PCS VisionSM from Sprint!


The Sprint Picture Share Team


Send and Receive Pictures through PCS Vision.
For more information go to www.sprintpcs.com.
"

That afternoon I got a picture message from my sis (my bday) of a cake. I called Sprint and asked about the pic mail... the chick said yeah, you have the full Vision package, you shouldn't have a problem.

So I am totally confused now. Everything here currently reads NO mms. I don't want to put this in a diff thread for fear of pissing someone off. I am thinking that we can receive it we just can't send it?

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Well I figured I would go to the site and nose around, it asked me to set up my stuff?

Choose a display name. This becomes the "From" name when you send a Picture Mail
*Required fields

*First Name

*Last Name

Now choose an email address for your new account.
Note: this can only be set once.


*New Email Address
@pm.sprint.com
Example: samsmith@pm.sprint.com
Opt in for PictureMail communications from Sprint


Then in the account part of it they say this:

Did You Know...


# NEW! Sprint offers you a new
Picture Mail email address?
Your email is now
xxxxxxxxxxx@pm.sprint.com

# Your Sprint PCS phone number is
always your email address "alias?"
Your friends and family can send
messages quickly to
xxxxxxxxxx@pm.sprint.com

# Messages in your inbox will be
deleted after 60 days?

# You can permanently Save
messages in your inbox by clicking
on the "save" icon ?

__________________________________________________ ____________

So am I being completely retarded here? does none of this have to do with sending pics on my 6800? I don't remember having to set up any of this before on a stock rom and my 6700, but the sprintpcs.com email addy they activated was the one connected to my phone that I sent pics through. I am totally NOT savvy here... so I could be mixing apples and oranges... if so guys, I really really apologize!

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Wow, is this a joke? Mikey must be trying to get a rise, right?? Your whole argument was ripped to shreds on the post right after yours, so I won't repeat it here. This is exactly what I would expect to see from a Sprint customer careless rep, all the infuriating phone calls I've had with them make so much more sense now...

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Ladysaat,
You can receive MMS and you are obviously signed up for the site to visit to view them. The problem lies in the sending part. Sprint is blocking this. Use sMMS from the PPC Programs section of the forum and use the username and password from the picmail site you just set up. Works like a charm for me to send MMS out.

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That is what I realized after reading even more on different sites last night and this morning. Thanks for not calling me an idiot :-) I realize I was totally not getting the gist of the situation and rambling about nothing useful in those two posts. I do have sMMS now and it looks great. After flashing a new ROM it'll go on there.

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The issue as it was communicated to me was that the Arcsoft program actually byp***** the Sprint gateway and went right to the MMS server itself. Which isn't allowed. So Sprint blocked it.

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i dont care about this topic because of someguymms thanks man

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haha, while i appreciate all of someguymms's work, its the principal of the thing. people shouldn't have to jump through hoops just to get our phones to send picture messages. were using like the ultimate phones, and it cant do something a pick up and go phone can do. its just ridiculous.

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For those interested, I wrote up a full story for WMExperts on the history and reasoning for the MMS block on Sprint as well as solutions.

Most of this knowledge is known to users here, but it is imo a great single-reference source for n00bs who want to play "catch up" & not have to read through thousands of posts :silent:

Sprint, MMS and Windows Mobile: Why They Hatin'?

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Great article, Very informative. Thanks for mentioning sMMS.

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NP :mrgreen:

...and consideriing you are being hailed as the 2nd savior in WM communities I think it's I that should be giving thx ;-)

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I talked to tech support yesterday and he referred me to this site. They definitely know people aren't happy. I thought he said there was a download on this site that is working to enabel that feature. Is there such a thing?

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Yes there is. sMMS Picture Mail Composer After you install it stick around and help make the product better.

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Holy smokes... Sprint tech support is now REFERRING people to PPCGeeks for an alternative to MMS. Nice Nice.

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SomeGuyMMS, I better hope that you get something from the office of Dan Hesse for helping defuse irate Sprint PPC owners.

Dan owes you 1.

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Yeah like a big fat developer contract.

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Kansas City is a great area, you just have to decide if you want to go into the belly of the beast if Sprint really wanted you. You might come out, you might not. Either way, it's no sure thing like if you went to at&t, VZW, or T-Mobile.

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I would have no problem fully developing this App for Sprint, but I don't think Sprint would even offer. And now days Sprint has a major disconnect with their customers, I doubt anyone high up even knows about sMMS. Or even the MMS issue.

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So true so true! Thanks for the info guys.....the search button rocks

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There is a way to send picture messages to others. It's kind of a hassle and stupid that it has to be done this way but it can be done.
Basically email a picture to yourself as an attachment (add an imap account or something to your ppc). Email it to yournumber@pm.sprint.com (example 8182223333@pm.sprint.com). You will get a text message saying you got new picture mail. View the picture mail (it will pull up in internet explorer), then forward it to the phone number of the person you want to send it to. Since this way does not use the address book you will have to actually know the phone number (or copy/paste it from your address book). Yes this is a hassle but it is a temporary solution.
Note this will be considered data usage on your phone along with a txt message that you will get from the link.

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That does work, cobrabk, but you should REALLY check out SomeGuy's sMMS app on this site. It does away with all that hassle. Makes PicMail a very simple process.

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he's right. SomeGuy's app is great!

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I LOVE sMMS. It's come in very handy!