Touchflo 3D cab released! - Page 4

**jethro_static** · #31 (**permalink**) 10-11-2008, 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by EtherealRemnant

The 3D will *NEVER* work on the Touch or the Mogul unless someone manually cracks the Kaiser DDI.dll to run on OUR devices. Its been said time and time again that our DDI.dll doesn't have the necessary calls to initiate the 3D drivers and the hardware is different enough that just pulling the Kaiser DLL is not enough. Sorry folks, keep dreaming.

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Originally Posted by HotSheep

quote me too. the only way this will be possible is with working video drivers or a tf3d replica thats not truly tf3d. it is a pipe dream for us at this time. though i wish it wasnt.

I wanna know what U 2 will do if somebody made to work with HTC Touch?

**jethro_static** · #32 (**permalink**) 10-12-2008, 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by HotSheep

what would you prefer?

I am really interested what the other dude will do for claiming that it will "never" work.

TreyBeno · #33 (**permalink**) 10-12-2008, 02:01 AM

Sic em Jethro

momaydopod · #34 (**permalink**) 10-12-2008, 02:10 PM

wow..........

EtherealRemnant · #35 (**permalink**) 10-13-2008, 04:33 AM

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Originally Posted by jethro_static

I am really interested what the other dude will do for claiming that it will "never" work.

I didn't say it would "never" work, I said that "The 3D will *NEVER* work on the Touch or the Mogul unless someone manually cracks the Kaiser DDI.dll to run on OUR devices."

This isn't like TouchFlo 2D, which doesn't require hardware acceleration. I will admit that I was wrong about TouchFlo 2D, however, I didn't realize it didn't require hardware acceleration. This is the true TouchFlo 3D interface, which requires working 3D acceleration. The Mogul's DDI.dll is missing the key hooks to call upon the drivers that were cracked for the Kaiser. Thus, we are hosed until someone hacks the Kaiser DDI to work on our devices or magically HTC releases a ROM with a proper DDI in it (not likely).

**jdume** · #36 (**permalink**) 10-13-2008, 10:56 AM

I'm sure someone will do it, its just a matter of time

Im with Jet on this one too. Sorry sceptics.......

xtatic · #37 (**permalink**) 10-13-2008, 02:39 PM

i dont thihk its a good idea to make something work on something when both things are jus totally unsupportable......

xtatic · #38 (**permalink**) 10-13-2008, 02:40 PM

better of getting or upgrading to touch pro rather screwing up ur fone.

**jethro_static** · #39 (**permalink**) 10-13-2008, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by EtherealRemnant

The 3D will *NEVER* work on the Touch or the Mogul unless someone manually cracks the Kaiser DDI.dll to run on OUR devices. Its been said time and time again that our DDI.dll doesn't have the necessary calls to initiate the 3D drivers and the hardware is different enough that just pulling the Kaiser DLL is not enough. Sorry folks, keep dreaming.

It says here clearly that U said *NEVER*. then U put a "safety net" saying unless somebody cracks. Just in case somebody cracks it. U already have a scapegoat.

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Originally Posted by EtherealRemnant

I didn't say it would "never" work, I said that "The 3D will *NEVER* work on the Touch or the Mogul unless someone manually cracks the Kaiser DDI.dll to run on OUR devices."

This isn't like TouchFlo 2D, which doesn't require hardware acceleration. I will admit that I was wrong about TouchFlo 2D, however, I didn't realize it didn't require hardware acceleration. This is the true TouchFlo 3D interface, which requires working 3D acceleration. The Mogul's DDI.dll is missing the key hooks to call upon the drivers that were cracked for the Kaiser. Thus, we are hosed until someone hacks the Kaiser DDI to work on our devices or magically HTC releases a ROM with a proper DDI in it (not likely).

What is the difference between "will never work" and "the 3d will never work"? we all know that we need the 3d drivers.

Ok, here's the thing, I don't thnk U know what ur talking about. I think U just read it somewhere that someone said that it will never work and here U are claiming that it will never work. I tell U right now, If U don't stop ur negativity saying that it will not work, U will be PWNED again.

EtherealRemnant · #40 (**permalink**) 10-13-2008, 06:11 PM

You're a retard man. I've done my research and I know what I'm talking about. The Mogul and the Touch DDIs miss the needed calls to make use of the drivers released for the Kaiser. Furthermore, we don't even have confirmation that the drivers would even WORK with the hardware in these phones once the DDI has been cracked. There is a difference between the MSM7500 in our phones and the MSM7200 in the Kaiser and other GSM/WCDMA HTC devices. It may just be enough that we will never see working accel.

Also, with the Touch Pro right around the corner, development for the Mogul and Touch will steadily start to grind to a halt. There is going to be less focus on these devices.