Bell ROM vs. Sprint ROM

[Brock1909]

Originally Posted by kaiguy

I keep getting error 328 via RUU. Tried to flash it via the MicroSD card, and that didn't work either. Even reloaded CoKe's unlocker. No luck. Should I just flash the Bell ROM and reset before customizations to get this radio on my Sprint Vogue?

i think that would work. then i can flash my custom ROM. im going to try

[fredcatsmommy]

Originally Posted by aspalaasn

I find the bell radio bell than the sprint radio. Getting faster and much stronger and more sat locks than before. It must be something that Bell did with the radio and customizations.
I'm doing some testing with my phone as well and from what I can see, it does need data access to get quick locks. Having data off and blocked by "no data" will cause oncourse to never get a lock on sats. I can see it but it'll never get a lock.

I find that if I have data off but not blocked by "no data", oncourse dials onto the data connection and eventually gets locks.

I find that once you`ve already had locks to sats (ie not from cold start), even if you have data off and blocked by "no data" it will lock on to sats. The sats may already be in cache or something.

could you export your registry HKLM/Software/HTC/SUPL AGPS and post it? I want to compare some settings to see if maybe there's something different there as well as the radio. Thanks!!

[fredcatsmommy]

Originally Posted by sailor1960

I had the Sprint Rom and the GPS kept falling off, and took some time to switch on. A kickstart app was required to get it going most of the time.
I have since been using the Bell Rom and find it's version has a faster lockup, longer up time with GPS than the SPRINT.
I think more Vogue users should input their observations.
I travel quite often. I find that the GPS lock/connection has something to do with the internet access. I am trying a few homebrew apps to measure this difference.
I think the Sprint related server (Washington and California) is slower than the server in (BC, Alberta, ONT).
Anyone else with their two cents on their observations?

could you also export from your registry HKLM/Software/HTS/SUPL AGPS and post it? thanks!

[aspalaasn]

Originally Posted by fredcatsmommy

could you export your registry HKLM/Software/HTC/SUPL AGPS and post it? I want to compare some settings to see if maybe there's something different there as well as the radio. Thanks!!

here it is

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\SUPL AGPS]
"GPSMode"=dword:00000004
"EnableGPSSmartMode"=dword:00000001
"ServerPort"=dword:00001e6c
"ServerIP"="195.207.101.126"
"QosPerformance"=dword:00000059
"QoSAccuracy"=dword:00000032
"TimeBetweenFixes"=dword:00000001
"NumberFixes"=dword:3b9ac9ff
"EnableAGPS"=dword:00000001

I should let you know that I flashed the Official Bell rom and then reflashed to a kitchen rom, but I still got great gps signal.

It seems that agps needs data to work and gps doesnt work that well or at all without agps (or data)...

[fredcatsmommy]

Originally Posted by aspalaasn

here it is

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\SUPL AGPS]
"GPSMode"=dword:00000004
"EnableGPSSmartMode"=dword:00000001
"ServerPort"=dword:00001e6c
"ServerIP"="195.207.101.126"
"QosPerformance"=dword:00000059
"QoSAccuracy"=dword:00000032
"TimeBetweenFixes"=dword:00000001
"NumberFixes"=dword:3b9ac9ff
"EnableAGPS"=dword:00000001

I should let you know that I flashed the Official Bell rom and then reflashed to a kitchen rom, but I still got great gps signal.

It seems that agps needs data to work and gps doesnt work that well or at all without agps (or data)...

thanks. what build are you using? I realize that shouldn't matter, but just out of curiosity.

[aspalaasn]

Originally Posted by fredcatsmommy

thanks. what build are you using? I realize that shouldn't matter, but just out of curiosity.

I'm using 20270 custom rom...

[fredcatsmommy]

Originally Posted by aspalaasn

I'm using 20270 custom rom...

is that what you had before upgrading to the Bell radio?

[aspalaasn]

Originally Posted by fredcatsmommy

is that what you had before upgrading to the Bell radio?

yes, I had a custom rom with the kitchen before flashing the bell rom. I would've stuck with the bell rom a lot longer but iGO was giving me problems starting up so I went back to a kitchen rom. I still got better gps than I got before flashing. A lot of Bell users have noticed a big difference in their gps strength so it's no placebo effect.

Big differences I noticed are that you get gps locks faster, stronger strenght (ie the bars in iGO are longer) and there are more sats than before without the changes the bell rom made.

[boggsie]

Originally Posted by aspalaasn

A lot of Bell users have noticed a big difference in their gps strength so it's no placebo effect.

The Bell ROM is v. 3.08.666.1, whereas the Sprint ROM is v. 3.03.651.4_2.

It seems reasonable to conclude that there are software components (device drivers and such - separate from Windows Mobile OS) that are more current in the Bell OEM ROM as compared to the Sprint OEM ROM.

Best regards,
-boggsie

[Videonut]

Originally Posted by fredcatsmommy

could you also export from your registry HKLM/Software/HTS/SUPL AGPS and post it? thanks!

The previous posters reg entries are different from mine. I haven't flashed any other rom on top of the new bell rom
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\SUPL AGPS]
"EnablePDEIPFromNV"=dword:00000001
"EnableGPSSmartMode"=dword:00000001
"ServerPort"=dword:00001E6C
"ServerIP"="195.207.101.126"
"QosPerformance"=dword:00000059
"QoSAccuracy"=dword:00000032
"TimeBetweenFixes"=dword:00000001
"NumberFixes"=dword:3B9AC9FF
"GPSMode"=dword:00000002
"EnableAGPS"=dword:00000001

GPSMODE is different and there is 1 more entry than previously posted, EnablePDEIPFromNV