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Yes I will Pledge. (if you vote, post how much you pledge below) 54 50.00%
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Old 09-08-2008, 05:24 PM
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Re: Working Vogue Video drivers BOUNTY($1646.00 so far!) - Pledge donations here!!!

Just return all the donated money as this is something you guys will never get figured out. As far as the pledges someone please close this thread already.
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Old 09-08-2008, 05:42 PM
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Re: Working Vogue Video drivers BOUNTY($1646.00 so far!) - Pledge donations here!!!

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I really don't see why the only thing everyone seems to care about is having the latest build of the same ROM they all have had for a while
You're releasing custom roms and don't understand the concept of Adaptation Kit Updates? Frightening.

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Just return all the donated money as this is something you guys will never get figured out. As far as the pledges someone please close this thread already.
People actually sent him money? What's the threshold these days for the FBI's Internet Fraud Division to investigate?
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Old 09-08-2008, 06:07 PM
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Just return all the donated money as this is something you guys will never get figured out. As far as the pledges someone please close this thread already.
Surely no one was silly enough to actually part with their money before they see the goods!

If people did actually donate money, I hope the holder of the funds didn't actually spend any of it...that would be fraud.

I think it's pretty conclusive that the original target of this project is not attainable - hardware drivers capable of averaging 80-120fps. That being said, all donated money should be returned and all pledges released. If you can't get your money back, post here. If it's a big enough problem, band together and file a lawsuit....and remember to NEVER give your money to someone before you have the goods, particularly on the Internet!
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Old 09-08-2008, 11:14 PM
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Re: Working Vogue Video drivers BOUNTY($1646.00 so far!) - Pledge donations here!!!

Me and the person working on the drivers are actually very close to getting them working 100%. Nex, I don't see why you say this is never possible.
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Old 09-09-2008, 02:19 AM
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Re: Working Vogue Video drivers BOUNTY($1646.00 so far!) - Pledge donations here!!!

Considering that the bottom end of the target was 80fps, and you're at 54fps with something that you acknowledge has issues, how do you plan on claiming the prize? Honestly, your 1fps statement has me questioning what your 54fps test even was.

Furthermore, if you truly believe your 1fps statement to be accurate and 80fps not required, then Nex gets the prize because he is the first to demonstrate a stable AGPS rom with markedly better performance (not just better, it's even useable). He's even using the reference standard - you can't question the quality of his solution.
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Re: Working Vogue Video drivers BOUNTY($1646.00 so far!) - Pledge donations here!!!

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Me and the person working on the drivers are actually very close to getting them working 100%. Nex, I don't see why you say this is never possible.
Its not never possible - its just that I know what it takes to make it possible. I saw first hand the work nushrike had to go through to make the drivers work. To put it in short, you need to implement two missing exports in our DDI, which would allow for fast blitting, then you need to write a bunch of wrappers to get the d3dm to work (somewhat).

Now, these two missing exports are pretty much impossible to write properly without information about the chip, information which only Qualcomm has (and well, maybe google).

I highly doubt that you would be able to do that, given both the availability of the information, and your background with the hardware internals. I'm even doubtful of whether you even know how to disassemble a driver (which would be absolutely necessary to do this...). Of course, if you have run a legitimate benchmark, and can show me things such as your DDB blit scores, I'm open to changing my mind.

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Old 09-09-2008, 10:27 AM
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Question Re: Working Vogue Video drivers BOUNTY($1646.00 so far!) - Pledge donations here!!!

no2chem,

ALAS, I finnally see a post that properly points out the true challenges with implementing drives for Video acceleration in our devices(as per my reserch). I have been researching this for a quite some time and been following the success stories with the Kiser drivers.
Just one question for you though, if some one was able to port over and properly implement the missing DDI interfaces would it not be possible to use the same wrappers used for the Kaiser then... considering that the porting of the missing intefaces would most likely come from the same source as it did for the Kaiser?... or do you think that the diffrence in chipsets would require entirely new wrapes for our devices?

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Old 09-09-2008, 05:43 PM
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no2chem,

ALAS, I finnally see a post that properly points out the true challenges with implementing drives for Video acceleration in our devices(as per my reserch). I have been researching this for a quite some time and been following the success stories with the Kiser drivers.
Just one question for you though, if some one was able to port over and properly implement the missing DDI interfaces would it not be possible to use the same wrappers used for the Kaiser then... considering that the porting of the missing intefaces would most likely come from the same source as it did for the Kaiser?... or do you think that the diffrence in chipsets would require entirely new wrapes for our devices?

Thanks!
no, the wrappers are device-dependent. they rely on specific implementations and addresses of certain other drivers, such as wce_pmem.
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You're releasing custom roms and don't understand the concept of Adaptation Kit Updates? Frightening.



People actually sent him money? What's the threshold these days for the FBI's Internet Fraud Division to investigate?
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Surely no one was silly enough to actually part with their money before they see the goods!

If people did actually donate money, I hope the holder of the funds didn't actually spend any of it...that would be fraud.

I think it's pretty conclusive that the original target of this project is not attainable - hardware drivers capable of averaging 80-120fps. That being said, all donated money should be returned and all pledges released. If you can't get your money back, post here. If it's a big enough problem, band together and file a lawsuit....and remember to NEVER give your money to someone before you have the goods, particularly on the Internet!
No one ever sent me any money... At least not as far as this thread goes. I'm so sick of all of this crap... Someone issue me a permanent ban cus I'm outta here...
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Old 10-19-2008, 03:22 AM
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Re: Working Vogue Video drivers BOUNTY($1646.00 so far!) - Pledge donations here!!!

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No one ever sent me any money... At least not as far as this thread goes. I'm so sick of all of this crap... Someone issue me a permanent ban cus I'm outta here...
wait, wtf? people are supposed to fork out cash first and then wait for someone to develop the product? I thought the whole idea of "pledging" the amount was as an incentive to someone (ANYONE) developing drivers. There was no proof that they did, PM's werent sent out to show progress, or anything of such sort....no one SHOULD have sent any money to ANYONE, FOR ANYTHING

Im sorry, this whole money sh** on this site, with donations and now this is getting ridiculous.
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