Anyone using iGO 8

[unr]

I had it installed for a few days but every time I ran the program it would reset my clock. Also, I always use Google Maps to prime and after a reboot it always connects in < min. However, after installing iGO8 it would take several minutes or never connect to a satellite at all. Then, while using iGO8 it would drop satellites and says "gps lost" and normally it would reconnect in a couple secs but not always.

The program is really nice but after dropping satellites (tomtom *never* had) and the extra time to find a signal to begin with plus resetting my clock... I had to restore a backup before the installation. Everything seems back to normal now for me.

Thats too bad because it seemed much nicer than tomtom.

[aspalaasn]

Originally Posted by unr

I had it installed for a few days but every time I ran the program it would reset my clock. Also, I always use Google Maps to prime and after a reboot it always connects in < min. However, after installing iGO8 it would take several minutes or never connect to a satellite at all. Then, while using iGO8 it would drop satellites and says "gps lost" and normally it would reconnect in a couple secs but not always.

The program is really nice but after dropping satellites (tomtom *never* had) and the extra time to find a signal to begin with plus resetting my clock... I had to restore a backup before the installation. Everything seems back to normal now for me.

Thats too bad because it seemed much nicer than tomtom.

There is a fix for the tiemzone change on the igo site, you have to do something to the sys.txt.

Try the link that dumb4ever has in his post, it's much better than the way I was doing it as it seemed to solve my incoming call problems. This will prime your gps and also allow you to lock on satellites faster. I use it with tomtom and now with garmin.

[tatnai]

Originally Posted by unr

I had it installed for a few days but every time I ran the program it would reset my clock. Also, I always use Google Maps to prime and after a reboot it always connects in < min. However, after installing iGO8 it would take several minutes or never connect to a satellite at all. Then, while using iGO8 it would drop satellites and says "gps lost" and normally it would reconnect in a couple secs but not always.

The program is really nice but after dropping satellites (tomtom *never* had) and the extra time to find a signal to begin with plus resetting my clock... I had to restore a backup before the installation. Everything seems back to normal now for me.

Thats too bad because it seemed much nicer than tomtom.

I only have problems with dropped satellites when I turn off AGPS, and usually it picks them back up within 20 secs (I am a sprint, USA user, I turn off AGPS when using iGO8 in Canada where I don't want to use data - TomTom won't get a lock for me in Canada with AGPS turned off). With AGPS turned on, I get a lock in 5 seconds or less, and rarely if ever lose GPS. AstroGPSLauncher is what I use, it is great.

The clock resetting issue is fixed if you simply turn of the settings in iGo that automatically update your phone clock to the GPS time server; also set the right time zone in iGO8.

For me, TomTom7 is only better for POIs, that's it. iGO8 has better graphics, UI, options, skins, and routes (for me). And I can use iGO8 out of the country, which is a plus.

[aspalaasn]

Originally Posted by tatnai

I only have problems with dropped satellites when I turn off AGPS, and usually it picks them back up within 20 secs (I am a sprint, USA user, I turn off AGPS when using iGO8 in Canada where I don't want to use data - TomTom won't get a lock for me in Canada with AGPS turned off). With AGPS turned on, I get a lock in 5 seconds or less, and rarely if ever lose GPS. AstroGPSLauncher is what I use, it is great.

The clock resetting issue is fixed if you simply turn of the settings in iGo that automatically update your phone clock to the GPS time server; also set the right time zone in iGO8.

For me, TomTom7 is only better for POIs, that's it. iGO8 has better graphics, UI, options, skins, and routes (for me). And I can use iGO8 out of the country, which is a plus.

I was under the impression that AGPS is does not use data although some say it does...how did you turn AGPS off? Like do you mean in the registry and then soft resetted? or do you mean you just turn of data thereby disabling AGPS?

For me, I have faster locks, see more sats and more locks with data on than when it is off. Whether that's due to AGPS or not, I know there's a difference. I'm in Vancouver, Canada if that makes any difference, on Bell as well using 20273 rom made from the kitchen. I tested pretty much with iGO8/OCN8 only and look at the sat viewer. With data on, I'd be getting 6-9 sats locked and they were of strong strength but with data off (blocked by no data) the most I would get after a cold start is only 4-5 locks, avg is closer to 2-3 locks only. It would also take forever to get a lock but it does lock. That's why I think data is needed for better GPS signal. Whether that's AGPS or not I'm not sure, if it is, then I guess AGPS needs data, if not then like I said in other posts, there's something else that affects the signal we get.

[tatnai]

Originally Posted by aspalaasn

I was under the impression that AGPS is does not use data although some say it does...how did you turn AGPS off? Like do you mean in the registry and then soft resetted? or do you mean you just turn of data thereby disabling AGPS?

For me, I have faster locks, see more sats and more locks with data on than when it is off. Whether that's due to AGPS or not, I know there's a difference. I'm in Vancouver, Canada if that makes any difference, on Bell as well using 20273 rom made from the kitchen. I tested pretty much with iGO8/OCN8 only and look at the sat viewer. With data on, I'd be getting 6-9 sats locked and they were of strong strength but with data off (blocked by no data) the most I would get after a cold start is only 4-5 locks, avg is closer to 2-3 locks only. It would also take forever to get a lock but it does lock. That's why I think data is needed for better GPS signal. Whether that's AGPS or not I'm not sure, if it is, then I guess AGPS needs data, if not then like I said in other posts, there's something else that affects the signal we get.

Here's a good tutorial on GPS vs aGPS - I didn't know much about it before I read it. Whether this would incur a data charge when I'm roaming in Canada depends on a) what aGPS configuration the vogue works on, and b) whether the cell tower - phone communication occurs over the data line or not. Your testing would suggest that the cell tower "assistance" is using a data route.

I turned off aGPS by using a program called Advanced Config. It is included in many custom roms, can be dl'd too. I also turn off my data when I go to canada by preventing data while roaming - for reasons other than just the aGPS. The only thing I've found with iGo8 is that with aGPS and data off, I typically need to soft reset before using it or it won't get a lock, don't know if this is because it is trying to use old sat info, or because I just got impatient the first couple of times and then began soft resetting after that. But yeah, I would get a lock in about 2-4 minutes with that config, and dropped sats about every 10 mins for 20 seconds or so.

But your testing might also indicate that I don't kneed to turn off aGPS, I can probably just block my data connection and have the same results. I thought that maybe the phone would be "searching" for that assisted information and then maybe not function at all; apparently that's not the case.

Definitely while I'm home in the US I keep aGPS on, and have seconds to a sat lock and almost never drop a signal. I only disabled it cause I was going to Canada.

I did not try simply disabling data but leaving aGPS on, as I assumed it wouldn't work anyways. The next time I go to Canada, I will give this a try, and see if I lose satellites all the time and/or if my TTFF dramatically improves; from what you say, though, it's probably the equivalent of turing aGPS off.

[aspalaasn]

thanks for the article, it's very informative. It didn't say much about whether the assistance is done via data or not but seeing as we have the gpsone chip and there's the pde ip address found under the gpsone settings, leads me to believe that we need data for aGPS. I didn't build advance config into my rom so I guess I can't change it. Do you happen to know if the advance config is the advance config(Schaps config) found in the kitchen? Do you know what it does, like does using it change the registry settings? maybe it disables assisted gps that way. I just don't want to rebuild/reflash another rom if I can just do the same thing by changing the registry as with advance config.

Originally Posted by tatnai

Here's a good tutorial on GPS vs aGPS - I didn't know much about it before I read it. Whether this would incur a data charge when I'm roaming in Canada depends on a) what aGPS configuration the vogue works on, and b) whether the cell tower - phone communication occurs over the data line or not. Your testing would suggest that the cell tower "assistance" is using a data route.

I turned off aGPS by using a program called Advanced Config. It is included in many custom roms, can be dl'd too. I also turn off my data when I go to canada by preventing data while roaming - for reasons other than just the aGPS. The only thing I've found with iGo8 is that with aGPS and data off, I typically need to soft reset before using it or it won't get a lock, don't know if this is because it is trying to use old sat info, or because I just got impatient the first couple of times and then began soft resetting after that. But yeah, I would get a lock in about 2-4 minutes with that config, and dropped sats about every 10 mins for 20 seconds or so.

[tatnai]

Originally Posted by aspalaasn

Do you happen to know if the advance config is the advance config(Schaps config) found in the kitchen? Do you know what it does, like does using it change the registry settings? maybe it disables assisted gps that way. I just don't want to rebuild/reflash another rom if I can just do the same thing by changing the registry as with advance config.

Yeah, I'm using Schaps 2.02.1. I think it is just a nice UI to change registry settings, as I have changed reg settings using dotFred reg edit and then noted the corresponding change in Schaps; it may also be able to add registry settings for certain options, I don't know. You can find it as a cab, if you really want it. Take a stroll through the registry, see what you find.

(very fancy Advanced Config found here, not the one I'm using)

[SprintTouch08]

Originally Posted by tatnai

Here's a good tutorial on GPS vs aGPS - I didn't know much about it before I read it. Whether this would incur a data charge when I'm roaming in Canada depends on a) what aGPS configuration the vogue works on, and b) whether the cell tower - phone communication occurs over the data line or not. Your testing would suggest that the cell tower "assistance" is using a data route.

I turned off aGPS by using a program called Advanced Config. It is included in many custom roms, can be dl'd too. I also turn off my data when I go to canada by preventing data while roaming - for reasons other than just the aGPS. The only thing I've found with iGo8 is that with aGPS and data off, I typically need to soft reset before using it or it won't get a lock, don't know if this is because it is trying to use old sat info, or because I just got impatient the first couple of times and then began soft resetting after that. But yeah, I would get a lock in about 2-4 minutes with that config, and dropped sats about every 10 mins for 20 seconds or so.

But your testing might also indicate that I don't kneed to turn off aGPS, I can probably just block my data connection and have the same results. I thought that maybe the phone would be "searching" for that assisted information and then maybe not function at all; apparently that's not the case.

Definitely while I'm home in the US I keep aGPS on, and have seconds to a sat lock and almost never drop a signal. I only disabled it cause I was going to Canada.

I did not try simply disabling data but leaving aGPS on, as I assumed it wouldn't work anyways. The next time I go to Canada, I will give this a try, and see if I lose satellites all the time and/or if my TTFF dramatically improves; from what you say, though, it's probably the equivalent of turing aGPS off.

that may be true. it prob can only operate in one mode at one time so it may take time to switch modes or it might take a reset to do so. prob not a huge deal as long as it worked in the end.

[dreamworking]

Originally Posted by tatnai

I only have problems with dropped satellites when I turn off AGPS, and usually it picks them back up within 20 secs (I am a sprint, USA user, I turn off AGPS when using iGO8 in Canada where I don't want to use data - TomTom won't get a lock for me in Canada with AGPS turned off). With AGPS turned on, I get a lock in 5 seconds or less, and rarely if ever lose GPS. AstroGPSLauncher is what I use, it is great.

The clock resetting issue is fixed if you simply turn of the settings in iGo that automatically update your phone clock to the GPS time server; also set the right time zone in iGO8.

For me, TomTom7 is only better for POIs, that's it. iGO8 has better graphics, UI, options, skins, and routes (for me). And I can use iGO8 out of the country, which is a plus.

Regarding the clock resetting, i have tried your instructions but still resets itself. Its really annoying.

After following your instructions i restarted igo and connecting the GPS and then Igo asked me "do you want to disable auto adjusting the timezone by connecting to the gps server?" (or something along those lines) to which i replied "yes". And then another menu came up asking me to select the right time zone which i then selected appropriate to my region (besides my region never needs timezone corrections anyway)

Please help. How should i avoid this resetting of clock after every softreset?

I use igo 8.0 update 55127. I use mio a701. Wince 5.2

Thanks

[joemike60]

@273: Add the following lines to your sys.txt (on your device):

[timezone]
sync_os_timezone=0
reset_os_timezone=0