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no2chem 04-20-2009 08:10 AM

[5-10] nueDynamicClock 1.3 - more bug fixes
 
http://www.nuerom.com/BlogEngine/pos...cClock-13.aspx

Does what nueClockControl does, just in an automated way - hopefully it'll increase your battery life without too much of a hit on performance ... let me know how it works out for you, and consider making a donation if you find it genuinely useful =).

update - version 1.1 has tons more features and hopefully less bugs.. do check it out...
another update- version 1.2 fixes a minimum speed on boot bug some people were experiencing
1.3 - fixes slow clock change issue

lnchbx13 04-20-2009 08:15 AM

Re: [4-20] nueDynamicClock - dynamically adjust clock for battery life
 
sweet!!! Can't wait to check it out...will report results in the next couple of days.

Hivez 04-20-2009 08:15 AM

Re: [4-20] nueDynamicClock - dynamically adjust clock for battery life
 
sounds interesting .. will give it a shot thanks!

dschoenike 04-20-2009 08:16 AM

Re: [4-20] nueDynamicClock - dynamically adjust clock for battery life
 
Can't wait to try this out, which i will be shortly :) Thank you Sir!!
dschoenike

hibby50 04-20-2009 08:16 AM

Re: [4-20] nueDynamicClock - dynamically adjust clock for battery life
 
first post! thanks no2! testing now!

holy crap they beat me :)

hankbear 04-20-2009 08:35 AM

Re: [4-20] nueDynamicClock - dynamically adjust clock for battery life
 
Cool!!! Trying it now. Anything to help battery is going to be a big hit. Glad I donated the other day!!

elosogrande7076 04-20-2009 09:02 AM

Re: [4-20] nueDynamicClock - dynamically adjust clock for battery life
 
thanks im trying it now...

nathan7 04-20-2009 09:07 AM

Re: [4-20] nueDynamicClock - dynamically adjust clock for battery life
 
Thank you ,Testing...

k000 04-20-2009 09:12 AM

Re: [4-20] nueDynamicClock - dynamically adjust clock for battery life
 
nue2Chem - is the installer supposed to be run on the PPC rather than via AS ?

PS : - I found yes..... :) it is installer to be run on the PPC..


Thanks - testing now.

enormous 04-20-2009 09:25 AM

Re: [4-20] nueDynamicClock - dynamically adjust clock for battery life
 
Donated again. Thanks for all your hard work.

delawaresace 04-20-2009 09:29 AM

Re: [4-20] nueDynamicClock - dynamically adjust clock for battery life
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by no2chem (Post 861681)
http://www.nuerom.com/BlogEngine/pos...amicClock.aspx

Does what nueClockControl does, just in an automated way - hopefully it'll increase your battery life without too much of a hit on performance ... let me know how it works out for you, and consider making a donation if you find it genuinely useful =).

i actually went to your site to download nueClockControl first thing this morning and found nueDynamicClock was posted. BONUS! i just flashed mighty 4.16 (6.5 just isn't doing it for me) and i'll test nueDynamicClock on a fresh flash (i had to install WMWifiRouter to get on line though) so i'll post a review and let you know if i run into any bugs. thanks again for all your work.

paziganc 04-20-2009 09:32 AM

Re: [4-20] nueDynamicClock - dynamically adjust clock for battery life
 
What is your configuration set up for your phone what has worked out best for you?

lnchbx13 04-20-2009 09:34 AM

Re: [4-20] nueDynamicClock - dynamically adjust clock for battery life
 
I'm not sure if it's what is recommended, but I went with the numbers he has in the picture on his site. Surely they will work.

no2chem 04-20-2009 09:42 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by enormous (Post 861764)
Donated again. Thanks for all your hard work.

thank you very much =)

Quote:

Originally Posted by lnchbx13 (Post 861775)
I'm not sure if it's what is recommended, but I went with the numbers he has in the picture on his site. Surely they will work.

shhh... I haven't really tested those numbers extensively, they just.. seemed like a good balance for me

lnchbx13 04-20-2009 09:54 AM

Re: [4-20] nueDynamicClock - dynamically adjust clock for battery life
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by no2chem (Post 861788)
shhh... I haven't really tested those numbers extensively, they just.. seemed like a good balance for me

Well, I will let you know what I find out!

dschoenike 04-20-2009 10:14 AM

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This may be a silly question, and im sure ill find out soon enough, but do the settings on this survive a soft-reset? Thanks,
dschoenike

nextelfixer 04-20-2009 10:21 AM

Re: [4-20] nueDynamicClock - dynamically adjust clock for battery life
 
I don't know if I am doing something wrong, but I downloaded and unzipped the file. When I try to run it I get an error message that it is not a valid win32 application. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks

k000 04-20-2009 10:21 AM

Re: [4-20] nueDynamicClock - dynamically adjust clock for battery life
 
yes - they do survice a soft reset, but if you do an override to manual through the app, that does not survive soft reset and you get back what you had in the app on soft reset.

k000 04-20-2009 10:23 AM

Re: [4-20] nueDynamicClock - dynamically adjust clock for battery life
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nextelfixer (Post 861838)
I don't know if I am doing something wrong, but I downloaded and unzipped the file. When I try to run it I get an error message that it is not a valid win32 application. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks

You need to run that .exe from the phone not on your PC when connected via ActiveSync...

twe90kid 04-20-2009 10:23 AM

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where is the settings located? i can't seem to find the launch prog in programs menu

k000 04-20-2009 10:25 AM

Re: [4-20] nueDynamicClock - dynamically adjust clock for battery life
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by twe90kid (Post 861847)
where is the settings located? i can't seem to find the launch prog in programs menu


They are at : Settings --> System --> Processor

twe90kid 04-20-2009 10:26 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by k000 (Post 861852)
They are at : Settings --> System --> Processor

thx :silent:

twe90kid 04-20-2009 10:26 AM

Re: [4-20] nueDynamicClock - dynamically adjust clock for battery life
 
btw, what speeds should i use? to maximize battery life?

also what does it mean by surviving a soft reset?
will this reduce tetheing speeds? will it cause problems to the phone with nue fast charge on?

one problem that i found.
is there a way for you to incorporate an option in the future release so we can add our list of programs into the list so that while they are running, the dynamic clock doesn't kick into place while suspended?

the reason i ask is because, i play a lot of online streaming music through window media player. i realized that if i stream and i press the power button to go into suspend, it would lock up the phone. i could not turn it on unless soft reset.

nextelfixer 04-20-2009 11:02 AM

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Thanks

Lat 04-20-2009 11:09 AM

Re: [4-20] nueDynamicClock - dynamically adjust clock for battery life
 
Sweet. This reminds me of my old Dell Axim X51v's "Auto" processor speed for the Intel PXA720 processor....always kept it on that mode to optimize battery life, and it basically felt the same as it running at full speed. Hopefully your app can do the same!

Many props for you to being able to program this for the qualcomm chipset.

Edit: donated! I figure it's much deserved, and I'm using like 5 of your utilities. Cheers.

dschoenike 04-20-2009 11:10 AM

Re: [4-20] nueDynamicClock - dynamically adjust clock for battery life
 
I just ran into 2 weird issues with app. It turns off quickmenu while running, and opera mini has strange behavior with it. For some reason opera mini's 2 lower softkeys (menu & back) disappear. Hmmm, maybe its just me, anyone else?
dschoenike

Ph33zy 04-20-2009 11:11 AM

Re: [4-20] nueDynamicClock - dynamically adjust clock for battery life
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dschoenike (Post 861919)
I just ran into 2 weird issues with app. It turns off quickmenu while running, and opera mini has strange behavior with it. For some reason opera mini's 2 lower softkeys (menu & back) disappear. Hmmm, maybe its just me, anyone else?
dschoenike

opera mini works fine for me. don't use quick menu so don't know..

k000 04-20-2009 11:18 AM

Re: [4-20] nueDynamicClock - dynamically adjust clock for battery life
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by twe90kid (Post 861857)
btw, what speeds should i use? to maximize battery life?

also what does it mean by surviving a soft reset?
will this reduce tetheing speeds? will it cause problems to the phone with nue fast charge on?

one problem that i found.
is there a way for you to incorporate an option in the future release so we can add our list of programs into the list so that while they are running, the dynamic clock doesn't kick into place while suspended?

the reason i ask is because, i play a lot of online streaming music through window media player. i realized that if i stream and i press the power button to go into suspend, it would lock up the phone. i could not turn it on unless soft reset.


I read this on nue2chem's page --> http://www.nuerom.com/BlogEngine/

So he is already working on it :D

"A program monitor and a scheme for picking clock speeds based on which programs are running is in the works. "

izanagi 04-20-2009 11:35 AM

Re: [4-20] nueDynamicClock - dynamically adjust clock for battery life
 
I installed this on my CDMA TP on wm6.5 with no complications. Currently running fine and it reduced my standby discharge current from 61mA to 17mA.

I haven't noticed any complications or performance hits yet; so far so good!

shaggylive 04-20-2009 11:48 AM

Re: [4-20] nueDynamicClock - dynamically adjust clock for battery life
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by izanagi (Post 861978)
I installed this on my CDMA TP on wm6.5 with no complications. Currently running fine and it reduced my standby discharge current from 61mA to 17mA.

I haven't noticed any complications or performance hits yet; so far so good!

hmm, 17ma is feasible out of a small photocell... :mrgreen:

Hiquin 04-20-2009 12:03 PM

Re: [4-20] nueDynamicClock - dynamically adjust clock for battery life
 
I've installed it, but don't really know how to check if it's actually working or not.

One strange thing I noticed.. it says my current clock speed is 0.0MHz

When I tried to install via the .exe it said there was some security software likely preventing the install. so I tried installing with the .cab file instead, and that installed fine, but I'm wondering if the security thing is preventing the program from reading the current clock speed and even adjusting the clock even though it installed fine with the .cab

running Telus HTC Touch Pro, shipped ROM no changes cept for some tweaks.

EDIT:
I just uninstalled the .cab, and then went to install the .exe and this time it installed and asked for a reboot, no security prompt at all. very strange.

But it now shows me the processor speed, and I can see it go down after the 5000ms and again when the screen dims.. very good :)

Matrix 04-20-2009 12:10 PM

Re: [4-20] nueDynamicClock - dynamically adjust clock for battery life
 
I'm excited about this, but wasn't there something similar a few years ago? I vaguely remember a pay app in the days of the Apache (6700) that automatically throttled the CPU but in doing so actually used more power.

I'm not saying that's the case here, just trying to refresh my memory.

twe90kid 04-20-2009 12:28 PM

Re: [4-20] nueDynamicClock - dynamically adjust clock for battery life
 
i installed it. i like the fact that it does limit the power usage by clocking done the processor. the only problem i have with this is that a lot of programs become virtually unusable. i.e. things like s2p or wmp.

izanagi 04-20-2009 12:34 PM

Re: [4-20] nueDynamicClock - dynamically adjust clock for battery life
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Matrix (Post 862068)
I'm excited about this, but wasn't there something similar a few years ago? I vaguely remember a pay app in the days of the Apache (6700) that automatically throttled the CPU but in doing so actually used more power.

I'm not saying that's the case here, just trying to refresh my memory.


you are correct, there was an app for the Apache that did process (CPU scalar perhaps?), but was supposed to actually reduce battery life. Given no2chem's knowledge of the low-level drivers, however, and the triggers he is using to drive CPU adjustment (relatively simple: standby, screen off, time delay), I do not predict this will decrease performance significantly.

If anything this app should be good for those traveling and wishing to prolong battery life in standby, not those powerusers looking for an extra 20 minutes in a day.



I have been wondering if the TP architecture / processor already performed some form of CPU scaling, as it seems a pretty big basic step to increasing battery performance.

noobified 04-20-2009 12:52 PM

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Can someone please post the cab file?

Matrix 04-20-2009 01:03 PM

Re: [4-20] nueDynamicClock - dynamically adjust clock for battery life
 
Running a fresh install of Juicy 7 090418H, and I've had to soft reset 4 times in less than 10 minutes after installing this... Looks like there are some bugs. ;)

EDIT: It seems 3 of those 4 times were after I opened nuePower to check the discharge rate, then attempted to close it and it just hung. I haven't used nuePower, and things seem okay now...

no2chem 04-20-2009 01:04 PM

Re: [4-20] nueDynamicClock - dynamically adjust clock for battery life
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by noobified (Post 862210)
Can someone please post the cab file?

I highly suggest running EnableRAPI.cab / RAPIEnable.cab like the installer is telling you to if you have security issues.

Otherwise, you can find the cab other "Click here for other versions" under the download link.

no2chem 04-20-2009 01:06 PM

Re: [4-20] nueDynamicClock - dynamically adjust clock for battery life
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by twe90kid (Post 861857)
btw, what speeds should i use? to maximize battery life?

also what does it mean by surviving a soft reset?
will this reduce tetheing speeds? will it cause problems to the phone with nue fast charge on?

one problem that i found.
is there a way for you to incorporate an option in the future release so we can add our list of programs into the list so that while they are running, the dynamic clock doesn't kick into place while suspended?

the reason i ask is because, i play a lot of online streaming music through window media player. i realized that if i stream and i press the power button to go into suspend, it would lock up the phone. i could not turn it on unless soft reset.

Does this problem occur even if you disable the clock control on suspend?

noobified 04-20-2009 01:49 PM

Re: [4-20] nueDynamicClock - dynamically adjust clock for battery life
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by no2chem (Post 862250)
I highly suggest running EnableRAPI.cab / RAPIEnable.cab like the installer is telling you to if you have security issues.

Otherwise, you can find the cab other "Click here for other versions" under the download link.

Thanks. Stupid me. I thought the .exe file was for AS installations. Thanks!

twe90kid 04-20-2009 01:50 PM

Re: [4-20] nueDynamicClock - dynamically adjust clock for battery life
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by no2chem (Post 862254)
Does this problem occur even if you disable the clock control on suspend?

apparently it's not stable. as soon as it goes into power saving when backlight turns off or suspended the stream start stuttering. then it would lock up eventually.


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