Manila TF3D - What's The Point?

[henbone11]

Originally Posted by racemepls

tf3d looks nothing like the iphone

Unless you want it to, of course.

[jazee]

Originally Posted by racemepls

God... It has very little to do with the iphone. People wanted something more finger friendly so htc came through with the htc home plug in. Then they did one better with tf3d. It was heading in that direction anyway. Why must the iphone always be mentioned. tf3d looks nothing like the iphone

The iPhone is only mentioned because it is sort of the model for finger friendly, as you put it, and was the first to market. Not that I've every owned one - so my mentioning it is just a matter of mentioning what I consider the obvious - I'm not making any specific comparisons to the iPhone or endorsements of it.

Unless you were on the HTC development and/or marketing team, I don't think you can say it has very little to do with the iPhone. In all probability it has a heck of a lot to do with the iPhone. To contend that the most popular portable device, let alone phone, in history so far has no influence on the design of other competing devices developed later, is totally naive of how things in the business/marketing world work.

You see it all the time in every industry. One company comes up with electric car windows. Then all the other car manufacturers follow suit. Let's say the Thunderbird was the first with electronic car windows, then everyone else came out with them. So that would be like saying, the new Chrysler model that came out after the Thunderbird had electric windows and it had all to do with making it easier to roll up your window and had very little to do with the Thunderbird.

Is Touch Flo an attempt to copy the iPhone, of course not, that would probably infringe on some of Apple's patents.

Let's just say "Touch Flo moves the Windows Mobile devices in the direction of a more finger friendly interface similar to the finger friendly direction Apple took with the iPhone."

But then this thread has nothing to do with the iPhone aside from a brief mention that Touch Flo is closer to the iPhone than the standard WM interface. This thread is about weather Touch Flo is simply "cooler" versus practical. DS Gamer did not find it practical. Neither do I. And the fact it does not interface with the O/S well, it's really a Today screen overlay is all, is a testament to the fact it is a half-baked solution.

I'm a electronics junky. Always got to have the latest greatest computer, TV, stereo, phone, car, camera. But once you are no longer 20 years old and have been around the block a few times, and owned dozens of devices, you start to see through the sexy looks.

I do think it is an improvement/upgrade for the non-power user.

I'm sure the new version of WM will probably migrate to being a more finger friendly interface so phone manufacturers won't have to slap on proprietary overlays, to make it look more like an iPhone. Oops I said it! Ugh... I mean, won't have to slap on overlays to make WM more "finger friendly"

[drea43]

I am with all the rest Touch Pro is a great phone, it has some issues but none that would maske me not wasnt the phone asnd it is definately not the Iphone and I didn't want an Iphone because if I did I would have gotten one. These are two seperate phones You like one of them or get something else but stop comparing

[SprintTouch08]

Originally Posted by drea43

These are two separate phones You like one of them or get something else but stop comparing

exactly, no ones saying the OP shouldnt have an opinion but starting a rant thread about it is ridiculous. thats how WM is, if you dont like something there are variants to install. No gun to anyones head to use any particular program. But theres no need to start threads going off on rants because its not your preferrred choice.

[520dvx]

Jazee I have been using WM since the 6600, and have been looking at a today screen similar to your's for that entire time. I needed a change because frankly I was sick of looking at it. When I first booted to TF3D I had similar feelings and disabled it, installed all my other programs that I had been using. While being efficient it is the same old crap.

I had an iPhone for about 6 weeks because I wanted to try something new but that phone just didn't do the things I needed. The interfaces are nothing alike in my opinion.

Back to the TF3D interface, I can see everything from my today screen that you see on your's except for weather which for as much as I care it's pretty simple to touch the tab.

To each their own, it's obviously a personal preference thing... I for one will not be going back to the standard WM interface.

[jazee]

Originally Posted by 520dvx

Jazee I have been using WM since the 6600, and have been looking at a today screen similar to your's for that entire time. I needed a change because frankly I was sick of looking at it. When I first booted to TF3D I had similar feelings and disabled it, installed all my other programs that I had been using. While being efficient it is the same old crap.

I had an iPhone for about 6 weeks because I wanted to try something new but that phone just didn't do the things I needed. The interfaces are nothing alike in my opinion.

Back to the TF3D interface, I can see everything from my today screen that you see on your's except for weather which for as much as I care it's pretty simple to touch the tab.

To each their own, it's obviously a personal preference thing... I for one will not be going back to the standard WM interface.

Are you sure your TF3D shows everything mine does?

Mine shows whether bluetooth and Wi-Fi are on or off and you can toggle them by touching the icon. At this is just with one little app installed. If I was using other apps like the SPB Shell, as a couple other people here prefer the difference would be greater.

However, you make a good point that no one else has made so far and is was sort of what I was looking for. After playing around some more with it, you are indeed more or less right, at least with my currently loaded software, it does show *almost* all the same stuff and if you scroll down the clock gets smaller so more stuff fits. The only problem is if you toggle back and forth between today screens it resets to the HUGE clock . I like it much better if it would just default to the small clock. But at least now we seem to be having a more constructive discussion here instead of weird remarks like you're 'attacking' HTC, you 'deliberately' registered just to 'rant', why are you mentioning the iPhone!?!?! What does this have to do with the iPhone!??!?! Geez, we're just talking about a freakin phone here, not world politics.

The BT and WiFi status are fairly minor and it takes a swipe, and then two presses to see the weather forecast - which is not as minor to me. Like I said, I find the weather forecast to be more important than the current time. Any wall clock, car clock, computer, or wristwatch will give you the time and one of those is virtuall always around and if you want it on your phone just display it in the top bar. Getting the current weather forecast isn't as readily available as the time.

Let me reiterate my reference to the iPhone was in the general sense that the interface is moving in a more finger friendly direction, like the iPhone. I agree the interfaces are totally different. BUT, what is the damn facination with huge clocks on phone screens? I've noted the iPhone has one too. Did it sort of increase the popularity of these big clocks when it came out? If so, a lot of skin developers sure have followed suit.

TF3D would be so much better if you could get rid of the clock and put it in the top status bar so you could display more information, including the 5-day weather forecast on the Home screen with an easy way to toggle cities without having to slide to weather and press the screen a couple times or more.

It may grow on me though if I could learn to live without the weather on my home screen, but that's almost like learning to live without my upcoming appointments on my home screen, almost.

[touchrunner]

TF3D was firstly developed by HTC IMHO to sell phones to new users and reading the sales figures of the Diamond Family...its worked !!
And in the process they have made an excellent interface that we WM users can be proud off...hats off....compare them to other wm manufacturer today screens...they don't compare....until 2008 all we had was a homescrren dating back to 2001 or so.

Almost everything is a slide and touch away.

Remember most phone interfaces have looked bland....until this came along....the iphone interface don't compare to this.

Bacause this thread is turning into me me me I I I . I think the homescreen posted in the first post is crap....but thats my opinion.

[DSGamer]

Originally Posted by jazee

I think people are too easily impressed/seduced by looks and lose site of practical functionality. DS Gamer is a great case in point. He starts out saying he thinks it is an upgrade like everyone else and then goes on to say he finds a 3rd party app's interface, although not as nice looking, is much easier and more efficient to use.

Yeah. I meant I can see how the TouchFlo 3D interface is an upgrade objectively. But it's not as efficient as it needs to be. So for me it's not good enough. Other people might have no problem with all the swiping and gesturing. I'd rather not.

[henbone11]

I recently got my Touch Pro, moving up from a Mogul. I really love it. TF3D is great for me. If I wanna change how it looks or what I can access, I just look here or at XDA. I see a lot of the complaints of TF3D and dont understand why people do not just disable it and run whatever they want. Seems like more energy to complain about something than to just change it.

[jmorton10]

What a silly post, if you don't like TF3D simply disable it & use something else (nobody is forcing you to use it)

I have TF3D, Mobile Shell & HTC_HOME all installed & swap back & forth depending on my mood that day.

When I use TF3D, I run Weather Panel (hands down the best weather app) from a 2nd Today screen mapped to the right soft button which opens almost instantly & works perfectly.

~John