ATI Driver for Touch Pro

[cornelious2]

i don't know how it works on the TP but on computers a video card can also process captured video so upping the efficiency of the video card actually did improve camera and webcam performance. (havent tried these drivers with my phone yet i will try it tonight.)

[dr g]

Originally Posted by cornelious2

i don't know how it works on the TP but on computers a video card can also process captured video so upping the efficiency of the video card actually did improve camera and webcam performance. (havent tried these drivers with my phone yet i will try it tonight.)

The blur issue is not relating to video.

[cornelious2]

Originally Posted by dr g

The blur issue is not relating to video.

all a camera is is a method of taking video and processing it into a store able format so that statement is completely false.

[dr g]

Originally Posted by cornelious2

all a camera is is a method of taking video and processing it into a store able format so that statement is completely false.

Actually all video is is a method of taking many still pictures and processing it into a continuous file, which has a much greater requirement on processing speed and storage speed versus a single high-resolution photo capture, so the statement is completely true. The blur has NOTHING to do with video processing. It can't possibly. Basic photography.

[ian3047]

Well I would think if this is somehow allowing the hardware to work or do more of the work more efficiently it would then take some software strain and processing power off the device as a whole and allow just a little more power to snap a picture properly. Anything that can optimize the way the OS runs can improve device speed and ability. Some process has to tell it to snap the picture even their is no push button, shutter or roll of film. Heck if you could somehow load the built in camera software to run entirely off the memory card I'll bet the pictures would be quite a mess.

But all that aside, and even from how others have said it is working. If you own two of them and don't have them loaded with third party junk and do a side by side you'll notice a difference.

[dr g]

Originally Posted by ian3047

Well I would think if this is somehow allowing the hardware to work or do more of the work more efficiently it would then take some software strain and processing power off the device as a whole and allow just a little more power to snap a picture properly. Anything that can optimize the way the OS runs can improve device speed and ability. Some process has to tell it to snap the picture even their is no push button, shutter or roll of film. Heck if you could somehow load the built in camera software to run entirely off the memory card I'll bet the pictures would be quite a mess.

But all that aside, and even from how others have said it is working. If you own two of them and don't have them loaded with third party junk and do a side by side you'll notice a difference.

Doesn't work that way. A camera's parameters to give a proper exposure do not vary, regardless of how fast the camera is operating. You will get an improperly exposed picture if a certain parameter is changed without compensating with another parameter. It's not something where you can just speed up normal operation and fix the blur. The camera simply does not boost ISO aggressively to compensate for low light conditions. That is not something that is solved by anything other than changes to the camera software.

[ian3047]

Really so I have a camera in my laptop that when the driver is loaded improperly, like when I restore my OS it takes blurry or slightly off color pictures, yet load in that software and drivers and boom sharp again. A cheap little digital camera can be influenced by the environment around it. It is simple and others have reported similar results.

Further if the screen is lagging behind what you think your shooting and you move before it snaps your gonna have blur. If the screen had no impact on it take a picture without the screen. You couldn't even aim accurately much less try to use focus properly. I will admit I don't think this has modified the camera software or hardware obviously, but it has fixed the blur of the final product.

So bottom line like others my camera isn't junk anymore, and oddly enough something from that video driver did it. Hard as it may be to understand a fact is a fact, and the truth is it works on both of mine. I took cars driving by on dim streets nice and clear, before this blurred.

[cornelious2]

Originally Posted by dr g

Actually all video is is a method of taking many still pictures and processing it into a continuous file, which has a much greater requirement on processing speed and storage speed versus a single high-resolution photo capture, so the statement is completely true. The blur has NOTHING to do with video processing. It can't possibly. Basic photography.

Sorry missing the point again. a camera takes a point in time frame of a video and since it is digital has to process the information into a format in this case primarily jpeg. If it has poor video processing performance it cannot grab all of the information fast enough thusly extending the exposure and bluring all but the steadiest of subjects. that is exactly how I can turn a 20 dollar web cam into something that performs near the level of my 300 dollar digital camera. An image is the same thing as a really short video from the terms of processing.

*note* I tried the driver and having someone time the time it takes from focus to snap it shaved about an eight of a second off the shot in medium light. noticable but not significant enough if it slows down literally any other part of the phone since the camera is still not quite useable.

[dr g]

Originally Posted by cornelious2

Sorry missing the point again. a camera takes a point in time frame of a video and since it is digital has to process the information into a format in this case primarily jpeg. If it has poor video processing performance it cannot grab all of the information fast enough thusly extending the exposure and bluring all but the steadiest of subjects. that is exactly how I can turn a 20 dollar web cam into something that performs near the level of my 300 dollar digital camera. An image is the same thing as a really short video from the terms of processing.

*note* I tried the driver and having someone time the time it takes from focus to snap it shaved about an eight of a second off the shot in medium light. noticable but not significant enough if it slows down literally any other part of the phone since the camera is still not quite useable.

No, no, no, that's not how it works at all. These image capture devices cannot stream full-resolution images fast enough to be displayed in the viewfinder or saved as video. Few devices intended for still capture can capture at their full still resolution at video framerates. There are distinct preview and capture modes, each of which utilize the sensor differently.

Speeding up or slowing down the preview function has NOTHING to do with the still capture functionality of the camera. You would NEVER want the exposuring of the still camera function to be tied in any way to the processing speed or display speed of the device. You simply cannot get decent photographs like that ... cameras just do not work that way. You would see exposure problems in the images.

You cannot significantly change the camera's effective shutter speed with no other compensation and get proper exposuring.

[cornelious2]

Originally Posted by dr g

No, no, no, that's not how it works at all. These image capture devices cannot stream full-resolution images fast enough to be displayed in the viewfinder or saved as video. Few devices intended for still capture can capture at their full still resolution at video framerates. There are distinct preview and capture modes, each of which utilize the sensor differently.

Speeding up or slowing down the preview function has NOTHING to do with the still capture functionality of the camera. You would NEVER want the exposuring of the still camera function to be tied in any way to the processing speed or display speed of the device. You simply cannot get decent photographs like that ... cameras just do not work that way. You would see exposure problems in the images.

You cannot significantly change the camera's effective shutter speed with no other compensation and get proper exposuring.

I am not talking about the preview, I am talking about processing the IMAGE from the sensor into storage. IE drawing the picture into a sortable format quicker means less exposure time needed to the sensor.

n. pl. vid·e·os
The appearance of text and graphics on a video display.

not talking about motion video