Originally Posted by WisdomWolfX (Post 413377)

Consider this. When people jumped from the 6700 to the mogul last year this is what they gained:

- more hardware buttons
- a slightly better, spring-loaded keyboard
- an updated bluetooth version (2.0)
- faster wifi (802.11g)
- WM6 (not even sure you can consider that an upgrade)
- Spint Music Store (does anyone even use this on the mogul?)
- More ROM (extra storage, but no added memory for running programs)
- Upgraded camera
- Slightly smaller body

6-12 months after the moguls release they also gained:

- WM 6.1
- EVDO rev A
- GPS


As you can see it was mostly cosmetic improvement at first, the real goods didn't come until several months after release. Yet a lot of people (including you) bought the mogul with only these few differences.

Compare that to the things you gain upgrading to a Touch Pro:

- 4x the RAM (helpful for any multitasker)
- 4x the screen resolution (mmm yummy graphics)
- 2x the ROM
- an even better keyboard (this time with dedicated numbers)
- flush screen (no more crap on the sides/corners)
- an even better camera
- Enhanced GPS
- G-Sensor (opens a whole host of possibilities)
- touch sensitive, lighted d-pad for added interaction capability
- TV-out (to share videos and show off)
- Chrome trim
- Magnetic stylus
- Real MMS from Sprint
- Sprint TV
- 3D accelerated GUI custom designed for this phone
- Working 3D drivers for other apps (which I can only assume also means better video)
- Dedicated Youtube app (no need to use hacked together video bundle)
- Opera Mobile built in (What IE? Never heard of it. :D)
- Even smaller body (shorter and narrower)
- Faster CPU

...and that's just the start! Who knows where we'll be 6-12 months from now when dcd, no2chem, and others get a chance to really tweak it. After the exhaustive list can anybody here honestly say that there is not one thing that they would benefit from? Honestly if you don't see anything of value on that list then kindly box up your current phone and send it back cause you probably aren't using it :).

Originally Posted by TheBundo (Post 413391)

But we lost almost ALL the buttons, and the IR, look at the real-world problems on XDA, like phone answering itself in the pocket or case, extremely low volume, the alarm is as screwed up as it was on the Mogul, poor charging, poor video playback, lack of support for the VGA, and on and on. Once the new wears off, reality hits.....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=438

Originally Posted by WisdomWolfX (Post 413377)

Consider this. When people jumped from the 6700 to the mogul last year this is what they gained:

- more hardware buttons
- a slightly better, spring-loaded keyboard
- an updated bluetooth version (2.0)
- faster wifi (802.11g)
- WM6 (not even sure you can consider that an upgrade)
- Spint Music Store (does anyone even use this on the mogul?)
- More ROM (extra storage, but no added memory for running programs)
- Upgraded camera
- Slightly smaller body

6-12 months after the moguls release they also gained:

- WM 6.1
- EVDO rev A
- GPS


As you can see it was mostly cosmetic improvement at first, the real goods didn't come until several months after release. Yet a lot of people (including you) bought the mogul with only these few differences.

Compare that to the things you gain upgrading to a Touch Pro:

- 4x the RAM (helpful for any multitasker)
- 4x the screen resolution (mmm yummy graphics)
- 2x the ROM
- an even better keyboard (this time with dedicated numbers)
- flush screen (no more crap on the sides/corners)
- an even better camera
- Enhanced GPS
- G-Sensor (opens a whole host of possibilities)
- touch sensitive, lighted d-pad for added interaction capability
- TV-out (to share videos and show off)
- Chrome trim
- Magnetic stylus
- Real MMS from Sprint
- Sprint TV
- 3D accelerated GUI custom designed for this phone
- Working 3D drivers for other apps (which I can only assume also means better video)
- Dedicated Youtube app (no need to use hacked together video bundle)
- Opera Mobile built in (What IE? Never heard of it. :D)
- Even smaller body (shorter and narrower)
- Faster CPU

...and that's just the start! Who knows where we'll be 6-12 months from now when dcd, no2chem, and others get a chance to really tweak it. After the exhaustive list can anybody here honestly say that there is not one thing that they would benefit from? Honestly if you don't see anything of value on that list then kindly box up your current phone and send it back cause you probably aren't using it :).

Originally Posted by shadow-tech (Post 414028)

damn, goto the xda touch pro/Raphael section. looks like peeps got mad problems :(

ill get it but im keeping my 6800 just in case.

Originally Posted by drexappeal (Post 414122)

With the gsm version?