dear chefs:nobody is willing to cook 6.1 anymore? ! the forum misses 6.1

[Malatesta]

Originally Posted by Maan76

believe me , for the sake of this discussion ,I unlocked my virgin TP2, I flashed Mighty and energy ROMs today , I lost 2.5 hours from my study just to test them, and you know what ...................


I am back to stock ROM with sprint

Did you run HD Tweaks in Energy? He has it built in under Tweaks. Running the TF3D tweaks and cache optimization greatly speeds up the ROM.

I may do a video for WMExperts showing just how fast WM6.5.1 23081 is for those curious.

[Maan76]

Originally Posted by kabuk1

I like 6.5 & all, but I would love a mightyrom 4.16 clone for the TP2. That rom was my ol' faithful for many months when I had my TP.

I TOTALY agreeeeee

Mighty 4.16 happened once ....and I do not think this forum will witness any thing close to Mighty 4.16

Mighty 4.16 is a historical ROM. !

[Maan76]

Originally Posted by 2kmy477

I use SSK3 6.1 kitchen for my TP2,it's amazing,I don't like 6.5 menu system.

same here , 6.5 menu makes the HTC look like a flip phone !

[Maan76]

Originally Posted by redd214

congrats to u on all of the tweaking that you have done so far. the chefs in here know A LOT more about tweaking these phones than you or i probably put together. you dont think there is a reason that they are cooking with 6.5 and not 6.1?! your comparisons are still subjective, mine are not.

like i said b4 im not knocking the stock rom, its 6,1 at its finest but even that being said it cannot compare in terms of speed to the 6.5 roms even in their somewhat beta status atm

today I have spent around 3 hours to see if you are right , just for the sake of discussion;
I unlocked my virgin TP2 , flashed Energy first.....,it took me around 25 mins to test it , then I moved to Mighty.
In both ROMs I looked for the common tweaks that you have talked about .........and I did not find any registery tweak you re talking about , lets see the internet TCP window was not tweaked and was low , concurrent connections was not tweaked either .
phone : quick end phone call for example left as the HTC stock to 3000 , and mannnny other s .
these cooked ROMs are nice looking , fast runing , but not fully tweaked yet sir.

I had to return back to my fully extensively tweaked stock ,but honestly , I liked Mighty ....it is decent , but needs some wrok , I consider it in 4-5 versions when it is fully mature .

I respect your opinion ...and you have reasons to have this conclusions .
thank you for the mature discussion.

[redd214]

Originally Posted by Maan76

In both ROMs I looked for the common tweaks that you have talked about .........and I did not find any registery tweak you re talking about

reason you didnt find the tweaks i was talking about is because i actually didnt referenced any specific tweaks, i was speaking in a general way about tweaking phones. did your apply all 45 of you tweaks/reg edits when you tested the cooked roms by chance?

Originally Posted by Maan76

these cooked ROMs are nice looking , fast runing , but not fully tweaked yet sir.

like i said never referenced anything specific. the point i was trying to make wa that in stricly in terms of SPEED, doing a side by side comparison, the 6.5 roms are faster even as unpolished as they currently are.

im not knocking your comparison method at all but think about it like this, you see a runner run a 100 yard dash, then you see another runner do the same thing right after him. with no timing equipment you say based on what you think that the 1st guy was faster. without any point of reference how would you really know for sure? i on the other hand saw both runners run at the same time so i can clearly see who is faster. hopefully that analogy makes sense.

Originally Posted by Maan76

I respect your opinion ...and you have reasons to have this conclusions .
thank you for the mature discussion.

no problem my friend, seems 6.1 still has a pretty good following so hopefully the chefs can make u guy happy too!

[Nagrom Nniuq]

6.5 is not buggy in any way shape or form. It is a rock solid, super fast, OS. I dunno what is wrong with the phones you have seen it on, but with WM 6.5 my phones all run faster, have more RAM free, and look better. I can back that up with benchmarking if you want as well. 6.5.1 is more buggy, but it isn't official. You don't have to run 6.5 or 6.5.1 though. As it has been pointed out, the TP2 comes with an excellent and well built 6.1 ROM. Stick with that if you don't want to progress with technology and wish to be stuck in the stylus oriented dark ages... The rest of us will be moving on.

PS. Are you still running Windows XP? Refusing to ever upgrade again because XP is the greatest OS of all time?

[bobdude5]

Originally Posted by Malatesta

Did you run HD Tweaks in Energy? He has it built in under Tweaks. Running the TF3D tweaks and cache optimization greatly speeds up the ROM.

I may do a video for WMExperts showing just how fast WM6.5.1 23081 is for those curious.

i would ..show what tweaks you did and how to do them

[hankbear]

I have tried so very hard to like the start menu/menu system in 6.5, but I simply don't. I actually really, really hate it. I even decided on getting the Sprint Touch Pro 2 over the AT&T Tilt 2 because the Tilt 2 was supposed to come with 6.5, and I feared no one would cook a 6.1 ROM for it. I, too, hope a few chefs will continue to use 6.1 as a base, so that we can get the new SenseUI and have leaner ROMs that still are 6.1. I do plan to try 6.5, once most of the kinks are worked out. The stock ROM is so functional, that I am very hesitant to unlock and flash because I dislike having things that work stop working. Then, I keep flashing different ROMs, trying to find one that doesn't have some significant flaw, but that turns out to be a waste of time. So, I am reading the chef's threads with interest to see when all the issues get ironed out. Seems like that may be a while, though.

[JQuill]

Originally Posted by Malatesta

You are grossly misinformed. They have not "..fired everybody who worked on it". It was some of the WM7 team's management who has been replaced due to not meeting deadlines and other internal issues, not the WM6.5 one.

Remember, "Photon" aka WM7 has been discussed as in development since 2005. It's a bit behind schedule, which is why WM6.5 even exists. And lets not even pretend that you know who is on the teams, how they are divided up and who is working on what.

Okay so I was wrong about which specific people they fired. Doesn't change the fact that I was right, and that they had no idea what they were doing and got fired.

Originally Posted by Malatesta

Also false. Obviously some of the importance of these will vary, but WM6.5 introduce natively on the device:

• WM Marketplace
• New Home Screen
• New Lock Screen w/notifications
• New Start Menu
• New Internet Explorer
• MyPhone integration
• Significant changes in Virtual memory allocation
• Better power management
• UI and menu changes

WM Marketplace, New IE, and the MyPhone App, might be a part of the new "WM experience" (if you can even call it that) but they are NOT a part of WM and are NOT new changes to windows mobile itself, just apps.

Power management and virtual memory allocation might improve the speed of the phone a little but, but def. not enough to make it a worthy upgrade.

The new start menu, a lock screen, and the other UI changes are WHY THOSE PEOPLE WERE FIRED. Because these upgrades suck, and the UI "changes you speak of" are not changes, they are giant mistakes.

Originally Posted by Malatesta

In fact, for the end user and consumer, WM6.5 offers a much better out-of-the-box experience than WM6.1 did. Going further, a lot of the changes in WM6.1 were internal and not important to consumers--it was more going after BlackBerry functionality than making an overall better experience.

First of all not it doesn't provide a better experience out of the box because there's no box for it to come out of. It's barely been released and only on a few phones at that. The only reason you might find it to have a better look and feel out of the box is because of somebody's custom rom, not a build you found online and threw it on your phone fresh with no mods....Oh but who does that we all use custom roms here...EXACTLY.

Originally Posted by Malatesta

So you like WM6.1 better than WM6.5. No problem, some still love WinXP over W7, that's fine, we're all entitled to our opinions.

But please don't go around spread false claims or suggesting that WM6.5 offers nothing new to people--it's one of their biggest overhauls in the OS in years and WM6.5.1 goes much further.

If it's one of their biggest overhauls in years then they sure look stupid.

[amw1972]

It is what it is...some folks are justifiably comfortable with WM 6.1...many have reference XP/Vista/7...I'm sure there were folks that didn't want to upgrade to XP when that first came out. Some of us geekers I'm sure will be using XP until the day they die...because they like the O/S and knowledgeable enough to keep it working well for them.

When it comes to comparing ROMs (stock vs custom) if you're going to tweak your stock ROM...then you should do the same for the custom for the side by side. I'm quite sure that 90% of all custom ROM flashers are NOT running the "stock" ROM. They're tweaking until they're content with what they have on THEIR phone.

Same reason why lots of folks (myself included) didn't buy into the whole iPhone deal because it is so CLOSED. Unlocking it can get you so far...and its NOTHING like what you can do with a PPC/Windows Phone/Windows Mobile device.

Enjoy the stock ROM, but realize that your device has so much untapped potential...it just seems silly not to push it for all its worth.