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allwires 09-26-2009 03:45 PM

Is this the "oil slick"?
 
Hey guys. I think my TP2 has the "oil slick" problem on the screen. I never had a Touch Pro or Diamond before the TP2 so I am not really familiar with it.

Basically it only happens under fluorescent light, but when it does, it is pretty visible. It is about 1 cm by 0.25cm and has around 3 rings to it.

I tried to take a picture of it but basically the camera would over/under saturate so it was hard to really show what it looks. I had to edit the colors in the picture a bit too to make it more visible.

So is this the "oil slick" or something else?

http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/9...ilslick.th.jpg

Unknown Zone 09-26-2009 03:49 PM

Re: Is this the "oil slick"?
 
wow...if it is also happening to the tp2...not good at all....it is a known issue on the TP1

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread...ight=oil+slick

if you dont have a screen protector just to make sure, sometimes screen protectors will cause the rainbow/oil slick blob effect........correct you can only see it under floresentlight then that is a bad display my friend.

rafyrod 09-26-2009 03:54 PM

Re: Is this the "oil slick"?
 
is visible to me! $hit...

i had it in my touch pro but it wasnt that bad that it didnt bother me...

but now with a bigger screen in the tp2 is gonna be terrible

Unknown Zone 09-26-2009 04:04 PM

Re: Is this the "oil slick"?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rafyrod (Post 1195533)
....now with a bigger screen in the tp2 is gonna be terrible

yea that is sad :sad: if it is coming over to the TP2,


"Personal TP" over a yr no rainbow/oil slick blob

"Work TP" within 3weeks...had rainbow/oil slick blob...got replaced

rafyrod 09-26-2009 04:20 PM

Re: Is this the "oil slick"?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Unknown Zone (Post 1195553)
yea that is sad :sad: if it is coming over to the TP2,


"Personal TP" over a yr no rainbow/oil slick blob

"Work TP" within 3weeks...had rainbow/oil slick blob...got replaced

haha i hope it doesnt happen to mine i just got it yesterday.

but i dont mine if it happen on mine I GOT MINE FOR 30 BUCKS if it happen i get replace

Dragon2 09-26-2009 04:21 PM

Re: Is this the "oil slick"?
 
ya sure thats not a screen protector bubble?

Unknown Zone 09-26-2009 04:29 PM

Re: Is this the "oil slick"?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dragon2 (Post 1195592)
ya sure thats not a screen protector bubble?

I also just wanted to make sure myself....that is why I asked to make sure if he had a protector to first take it off..and see if it is still there.

WTF 09-26-2009 05:17 PM

Re: Is this the "oil slick"?
 
That scares me very much...I plan to switch to the Touch Pro 2 on my next pay check :)...and my current Touch Pro has this problem. How do you avoid this. There has to be some way...

themuffinman 09-26-2009 06:22 PM

Re: Is this the "oil slick"?
 
WTF? I can not believe this is happening again. Every touch pro I had(4) had this same problem and it was so annoying to me. With the last two pro's I had I just dealt with it until the keyboard started to die on both. This had better not happen to my lovely tp2 or I am going to be very upset.

eldersoul 09-26-2009 06:22 PM

Re: Is this the "oil slick"?
 
These things are selling like hotcakes and this is the first time ive heard of it. i wouldn't worry about it being a production issue. that being said, that mark looks ugly. send it back.

Dragon2 09-26-2009 06:41 PM

Re: Is this the "oil slick"?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by eldersoul (Post 1195777)
These things are selling like hotcakes and this is the first time ive heard of it. i wouldn't worry about it being a production issue. that being said, that mark looks ugly. send it back.

+1 one that, im sure every brand of phone has one or two in the batch, if it were a problem wede have a thread or this thread full of this with the infamous Exil3d as the OP, shoot, or he seen this and is on it. "Im knocking on wood as I type this".

yea, return that puppy

eldersoul 09-26-2009 08:37 PM

Re: Is this the "oil slick"?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dragon2 (Post 1195807)
+1 one that, im sure every brand of phone has one or two in the batch, if it were a problem wede have a thread or this thread full of this with the infamous Exil3d as the OP, shoot, or he seen this and is on it. "Im knocking on wood as I type this".

yea, return that puppy

Havent seen him around in a while and i couldnt be more pleased. He would be all over this thread if he was :)

Edit: SIIIIIGH... I guess I spoke too soon.

badboy8813 09-26-2009 09:12 PM

Re: Is this the "oil slick"?
 
the oil slick from the tp1 occurred when too much pressure was applied to the screen... i am guessing this can apply to the tp2 too! just be careful with the screen...

Exil3d 09-26-2009 09:23 PM

Re: Is this the "oil slick"?
 
You rang? First of all.. the Oil slick is not from applying pressure. Or heat or anything of that matter. What it is is the true fact that the LCD screen is cheap, or rather i say low quality. This is the 2nd thread I have read of the Oily screen on a Pro 2. Its only been what? 3 weeks its been out? And if I remember correctly... on Pro1, the oily effect came after of 1 or 2 months use. I baby cared my new Pro1 replacem,ent and suddenly I had the oily slick. I was so angry! Specially angry after I was told by the Sprint CS agent that it was my fault! CAn you believe that!? My fault for a cheap screen? I truly think HTC went super cheap on the quality of the Pro2 screen/ Like it or not.. its a FACT! 1 out of 3 Pro has stuck or dead pixelsa. Now they are popping up oily effects! Whats next? The dread3ed white spots like the Mogul?

allwires 09-26-2009 09:32 PM

Re: Is this the "oil slick"?
 
Yeah I lifted off my screen protector and rubbed it and it is definately in the screen :(

Exil3d 09-26-2009 09:52 PM

Re: Is this the "oil slick"?
 
From the pic.. it does look like its the oil slick. When you press on it does it move around?

eldersoul 09-26-2009 09:56 PM

Re: Is this the "oil slick"?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Exil3d (Post 1196080)
You rang? First of all.. the Oil slick is not from applying pressure. Or heat or anything of that matter. What it is is the true fact that the LCD screen is cheap, or rather i say low quality. This is the 2nd thread I have read of the Oily screen on a Pro 2. Its only been what? 3 weeks its been out? And if I remember correctly... on Pro1, the oily effect came after of 1 or 2 months use. I baby cared my new Pro1 replacem,ent and suddenly I had the oily slick. I was so angry! Specially angry after I was told by the Sprint CS agent that it was my fault! CAn you believe that!? My fault for a cheap screen? I truly think HTC went super cheap on the quality of the Pro2 screen/ Like it or not.. its a FACT! 1 out of 3 Pro has stuck or dead pixelsa. Now they are popping up oily effects! Whats next? The dread3ed white spots like the Mogul?

TWO POSTS!!!! CALL THE PRESSES, WE HAVE AN EPIDEMIC!!!!!!!!!! You are a cancer of this forum. I feel sorry for anyone unfortunate enough to know you.

EDIT: I apologize to everyone else for the direct attack. I dont like stooping down to guttural attacks but im not going to remove the post. I said it so it is there and im sure the mods will remove it later.

I spent the last six hours on this forum with my sick child sleeping next to me and I had a lot of fun tweaking and watching this community function. People coming together to fix problems and allow others to better ENJOY their devices. Then this worthless troll shows up and spews his vile. There will always be issues with EVERY device that comes out but showing up on a forum for a device that you dont even own to pick out every single issue and use it as a talking point to bash the hell out of the device and bring down the morale of the entire community is sick, pathetic, sad and simply has no place here. The mods need to step up and remove hate and they need to do it now. We are banding together to report every single nasty post this guy creates. There are 12 of us so for and I urge the community to show their solidarity and join us in taking out this trash. I am also considering creating a petition. Please PM me for details.

Exil3d 09-26-2009 10:19 PM

Re: Is this the "oil slick"?
 
Op, if you press it and it moves then its the oil slick problem. If it stays in the same spot.. then you have another anomaly that we have all not seen before.

Exil3d 09-26-2009 10:25 PM

Re: Is this the "oil slick"?
 
If you hold the phone under florencent lights, it very visible and it has like a rainbow effect to it. heres a picturew of what i mean. This is from another kind member who uploaded it to show us.

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/attachment...1&d=1240975065

Exil3d 09-26-2009 10:26 PM

Re: Is this the "oil slick"?
 
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/attachment...2&d=1240975425

8notime 09-26-2009 10:36 PM

Re: Is this the "oil slick"?
 
So what is it in the LCD that causes this?

orlandojumpoff 09-26-2009 10:42 PM

Re: Is this the "oil slick"?
 
we're blaming htc now for being oily ba$tards? j/k

but seriously, i don't know how this happened to your tp1s... never had this problem with the ones ive used. i bet you guys just sat on your phone or rolled over on them in bed... as in damaged the screens from pressure.

edit: have to think there's a reason why people arent having this prob straight out of the box...........

and exil3d the stuck pixel issue isnt 1 out of 3... it's 1 out of 4.5 ;) if it's showing up in the camera screen, but not in a perfectly pitch black wallpaper, then it's obviously not a stuck pixel. btw, notice that only verizon touch pro2 users checked off that they have blatant stuck pixel probs (as in visible during regular use)? then the next category is dominated by verizon also... some sprint, but they have moguls and touches listed as their phones, so i dunno if they didnt update their info or voted without having the phone... anyway, maybe verizon has the biggest problem?? interesting that only verizon users have the worst end of the stick because this site mostly has sprint users.

Dragon2 09-26-2009 10:57 PM

Re: Is this the "oil slick"?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by orlandojumpoff (Post 1196282)
we're blaming htc now for being oily ba$tards? j/k

but seriously, i don't know how this happened to your tp1s... never had this problem with the ones ive used. i bet you guys just sat on your phone or rolled over on them in bed... as in damaged the screens from pressure.

thats what im thinking (knock on wood) but who knows some say they baby em..

badboy8813 09-26-2009 10:59 PM

Re: Is this the "oil slick"?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Exil3d (Post 1196080)
You rang? First of all.. the Oil slick is not from applying pressure. Or heat or anything of that matter. What it is is the true fact that the LCD screen is cheap, or rather i say low quality. This is the 2nd thread I have read of the Oily screen on a Pro 2. Its only been what? 3 weeks its been out? And if I remember correctly... on Pro1, the oily effect came after of 1 or 2 months use. I baby cared my new Pro1 replacem,ent and suddenly I had the oily slick. I was so angry! Specially angry after I was told by the Sprint CS agent that it was my fault! CAn you believe that!? My fault for a cheap screen? I truly think HTC went super cheap on the quality of the Pro2 screen/ Like it or not.. its a FACT! 1 out of 3 Pro has stuck or dead pixelsa. Now they are popping up oily effects! Whats next? The dread3ed white spots like the Mogul?

You are a funny guy...not worth my time to argue with you..carry one

captspaulding1000 09-27-2009 12:08 AM

Re: Is this the "oil slick"?
 
well i have the large oil slick rectangle on the screen just like i had on my touch and touch pro. luckily i am still inside my 30 days.

Big Calhoun 09-27-2009 12:13 AM

Re: Is this the "oil slick"?
 
I had the issue for about a day after I applied the Ghost Armour kit. The documentation mentioned there could be some anomalies that would disappear after 24-48 hours. Happy to say it's gone. But without any type of screen protectors, I never noticed that on my TP2 or TP.

themuffinman 09-27-2009 12:25 AM

Re: Is this the "oil slick"?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by orlandojumpoff (Post 1196282)
we're blaming htc now for being oily ba$tards? j/k

but seriously, i don't know how this happened to your tp1s... never had this problem with the ones ive used. i bet you guys just sat on your phone or rolled over on them in bed... as in damaged the screens from pressure.

I can't speak for anyone else but I have had 4 tp1's and every last one of them had the oil issue, and it came out of no where. I didn't drop the phone, I didn't sit on the phone, I didn't do anything to would cause that issue. I never happened to my moguls or my apache's but to every single one of my tp1's?

themuffinman 09-27-2009 12:36 AM

Re: Is this the "oil slick"?
 
FLAMESUIT ON

Can't believe I am saying this but I have to agree with exiled and say that these screens are somewhat cheap as far as the oil issue goes. I mean come one, the issue was very common with the tp1. I have actually stopped random sprint customers with tp1's and ask them if they ever had the issue and they would say yes. Now as far as dead pixels, I mean one or two is probably acceptable for the most part but considering the tp1 has 4 times the pixels as a mogul and a tp2 has 5 times the pixels as a mogul or any 320 x 240 device I would think that there would be more of a chance of having atleast 1 dead pixel in these higher resolution phones.

Exil3d 09-27-2009 12:41 AM

Re: Is this the "oil slick"?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by themuffinman (Post 1196481)
FLAMESUIT ON

Can't believe I am saying this but I have to agree with exiled and say that these screens are somewhat cheap as far as the oil issue goes. I mean come one, the issue was very common with the tp1. I have actually stopped random sprint customers with tp1's and ask them if they ever had the issue and they would say yes. Now as far as dead pixels, I mean one or two is probably acceptable for the most part but considering the tp1 has 4 times the pixels as a mogul and a tp2 has 5 times the pixels as a mogul or any 320 x 240 device I would think that there would be more of a chance of having atleast 1 dead pixel in these higher resolution phones.

Amen! U see... I might sound like that cr4azy old man down the strreet, matter of fact even the scam niggerian homeless guy is pisst off aT ME. BUT... i DO HAVE VALID POINTS ON htc QUALITY CONTROL OR RATHER SAY QUALITY PURCHASING LCD DECISIONS. htc SUKS ROYAL GREASY OILY STUCK DEAD PIXELS PERIOD. Thats why i refuse to give em 1 more penny. I rather give the homeless guy a penny.

orlandojumpoff 09-27-2009 12:42 AM

Re: Is this the "oil slick"?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by themuffinman (Post 1196471)
I can't speak for anyone else but I have had 4 tp1's and every last one of them had the oil issue, and it came out of no where. I didn't drop the phone, I didn't sit on the phone, I didn't do anything to would cause that issue. I never happened to my moguls or my apache's but to every single one of my tp1's?

i've had a few as well and also a diamond... no issue. only issue i've seen is the yellow screen which looks like someone peed on it.

regarding the rainbow effect, it is weird that all of mine were fine but all of yours weren't. perhaps it is the way people are using the touchscreen? maybe you've been doing something that causes it? i'm not trying to point fingers, but it's worth investigating... do you press pretty hard on your screen? i hardly tap my screen when i use these phones...

Exil3d 09-27-2009 12:43 AM

Re: Is this the "oil slick"?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 8notime (Post 1196277)
So what is it in the LCD that causes this?

Cheapness. Enjoy your 600 dollar made is North korean Labeor camp parts. lol

orlandojumpoff 09-27-2009 12:44 AM

Re: Is this the "oil slick"?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Exil3d (Post 1196487)
Amen! U see... I might sound like that cr4azy old man down the strreet, matter of fact even the scam niggerian homeless guy is pisst off aT ME. BUT... i DO HAVE VALID POINTS ON htc QUALITY CONTROL OR RATHER SAY QUALITY PURCHASING LCD DECISIONS. htc SUKS ROYAL GREASY OILY STUCK DEAD PIXELS PERIOD. Thats why i refuse to give em 1 more penny. I rather give the homeless guy a penny.

yet u will still be their customer.......... which i don't get. maybe you should just go to the iPhone? :mrgreen:

Exil3d 09-27-2009 12:46 AM

Re: Is this the "oil slick"?
 
No iphone for me. Iphone users are very fragile. I will be a customer again once Tegra devices come out. In which i thin are next in line.

orlandojumpoff 09-27-2009 12:52 AM

Re: Is this the "oil slick"?
 
i look forward to your defects thread for the tegra devices...
all expensive products have problems. you won't find a smartphone without issues, you just won't.

Dragon2 09-27-2009 12:52 AM

Re: Is this the "oil slick"?
 
man give it a few more devices with problems before ya bash em exil3d, i knew yad be here on this......

themuffinman 09-27-2009 12:56 AM

Re: Is this the "oil slick"?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by orlandojumpoff (Post 1196488)
i've had a few as well and also a diamond... no issue. only issue i've seen is the yellow screen which looks like someone peed on it.

regarding the rainbow effect, it is weird that all of mine were fine but all of yours weren't. perhaps it is the way people are using the touchscreen? maybe you've been doing something that causes it? i'm not trying to point fingers, but it's worth investigating... do you press pretty hard on your screen? i hardly tap my screen when i use these phones...

Honestly I don't use my phone ruff at all. I would say that I dogged out my 2 apaches and 2 moguls compared to my 4 tp1's and my apaches which I still have to this day are in excellent condition. My moguls at that time were perfect except for the lack of ram issue. I also have a diamond sitting next to me that me and my girlfriend use and quite frankly I have never had to replace the diamond that I got from day 1 and you should see it, my girlfriend abused the hell out of it but the screen is still perfect. But all my tp1's have had that issue occur within 2 months of initial use regardless of how I use the phone. For example with the tp1 I have now, everything was fine one morning while I was at work been using the phone all morning with no oil issue, a few minutes later I walked up to the phone and BAM, the oil residue in on the screen. WTF?

Exil3d 09-27-2009 01:02 AM

Re: Is this the "oil slick"?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by themuffinman (Post 1196507)
Honestly I don't use my phone ruff at all. I would say that I dogged out my 2 apaches and 2 moguls compared to my 4 tp1's and my apaches which I still have to this day are in excellent condition. My moguls at that time were perfect except for the lack of ram issue. I also have a diamond sitting next to me that me and my girlfriend use and quite frankly I have never had to replace the diamond that I got from day 1 and you should see it, my girlfriend abused the hell out of it but the screen is still perfect. But all my tp1's have had that issue occur within 2 months of initial use regardless of how I use the phone. For example with the tp1 I have now, everything was fine one morning while I was at work been using the phone all morning with no oil issue, a few minutes later I walked up to the phone and BAM, the oil residue in on the screen. WTF?


Over my neck of the woods we call em. "El Cheapo"

My biggest gripes with HTC is the drivers. I care less for everything else. but now that I am hearin g that the Pro2 had a uneven backlight, dead and stuck pixels, oily rainbow and the screan lcd archs upwards. Thats the signs of cheap poor quality 3rd stage after market lcd reproduction made in slave labor camps. BS.

orlandojumpoff 09-27-2009 01:03 AM

Re: Is this the "oil slick"?
 
@themuffinman,
yeah that is pretty weird. i don't understand what this oil stuff is... like how does it even happen? if this is a display issue, i would think there would be logical explanations for them or comparisons to other devices that have the same problem. maybe i missed it, i dunno...

one more thing... did u have one of those screen protectors on them that use the spray solution to apply (zagg bodyguards or ghost armor)?

badboy8813 09-27-2009 01:03 AM

Re: Is this the "oil slick"?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Exil3d (Post 1196487)
Amen! U see... I might sound like that cr4azy old man down the strreet, matter of fact even the scam niggerian homeless guy is pisst off aT ME. BUT... i DO HAVE VALID POINTS ON htc QUALITY CONTROL OR RATHER SAY QUALITY PURCHASING LCD DECISIONS. htc SUKS ROYAL GREASY OILY STUCK DEAD PIXELS PERIOD. Thats why i refuse to give em 1 more penny. I rather give the homeless guy a penny.

WTF do you mean by this? i am NIGERIAN! should i take offense to the way you misspelled it too? watch yourself man!

Exil3d 09-27-2009 01:07 AM

Re: Is this the "oil slick"?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by orlandojumpoff (Post 1196516)
@themuffinman,
yeah that is pretty weird. i don't understand what this oil stuff is... like how does it even happen? if this is a display issue, i would think there would be logical explanations for them or comparisons to other devices that have the same problem. maybe i missed it, i dunno...

one more thing... did u have one of those screen protectors on them that use the spray solution to apply (zagg bodyguards or ghost armor)?

Actually what it is is the layers seperating from the upper touch resistive screen. Apparently they seperate and cause that rainbow effect that you can press around. I wont get any worst but its rather annoying under florescent lights.


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