Pro 2 is Also missing 3d accelaration. Confirmed!

[jethro_static]

I woulnd't say that U won't buy another HTC again ex. The 1st Tegra might be from HTC. LOL. But seriously, The only device that can match the Iphone's 3D engine is a device with a Tegra chip. Iphone have a dedicated GPU that is why it's graphics is like that. Tegra on the other hand have 8 cores in it's chip. See here. Each core is dedicated to it's specific function. Like computing, HD audio, HD video etc. and its working as 1 chip. This chip went to Zune. which is the APX2500/2600. The good thing about it is once the floodgates for Zune apps were opened, The games and any other apps will be ripe for picking once the Tegra phone comes out. The bad thing,(I hope not) the first Tegra phone which will be made by HTC(Superstar) will not have that chip. Instead, they put an unknow chip which is AP16. Nobody knows about that chip. Even Nvidia does not have info on their site about it. I wouldn't be surprise if HTC got in the way and start crippling functionalities. So at this point, What we want is a Zune phone. Zune right now will go head to head with Ipod touch. Isn't it nice if M$ have something to go head to head with the Iphone?

[Exil3d]

Originally Posted by jethro_static

I woulnd't say that U won't buy another HTC again ex. The 1st Tegra might be from HTC. LOL. But seriously, The only device that can match the Iphone's 3D engine is a device with a Tegra chip. Iphone have a dedicated GPU that is why it's graphics is like that. Tegra on the other hand have 8 cores in it's chip. See here. Each core is dedicated to it's specific function. Like computing, HD audio, HD video etc. and its working as 1 chip. This chip went to Zune. which is the APX2500/2600. The good thing about it is once the floodgates for Zune apps were opened, The games and any other apps will be ripe for picking once the Tegra phone comes out. The bad thing,(I hope not) the first Tegra phone which will be made by HTC(Superstar) will not have that chip. Instead, they put an unknow chip which is AP16. Nobody knows about that chip. Even Nvidia does not have info on their site about it. I wouldn't be surprise if HTC got in the way and start crippling functionalities. So at this point, What we want is a Zune phone. Zune right now will go head to head with Ipod touch. Isn't it nice if M$ have something to go head to head with the Iphone?

Ohh yeah. I am fully aware that HTC is going to push tegra devices. But now you got me worried. One thing I did not give much thinking was how and if TEGRA chips and be disabled like the current MS7200 ATI chips. If Tegras can be locked, then we are screwed and we must jump ship tp iphone and start cracking that to run WM7. Period.

[jethro_static]

Originally Posted by Exil3d

Ohh yeah. I am fully aware that HTC is going to push tegra devices. But now you got me worried. One thing I did not give much thinking was how and if TEGRA chips and be disabled like the current MS7200 ATI chips. If Tegras can be locked, then we are screwed and we must jump ship tp iphone and start cracking that to run WM7. Period.

Well Samsung is making a Tegra phone. I'm sure once the chip is out,every makers will follow.

[WorldWide]

Hello Ex! Nice review, I almost thanked you, goober!

[mlin]

Have you seen this http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=81090 ? Hopefully this will provide some releif until Tegra hits the market. I think the issue here is that HTC settled with mediocracy. Better chipsets have been available for awhile, yet its obvious HTC felt no need/desire to upgrade. I hope Microsoft ups the requirements list for WM7 to include a more robust processor with rendering capabilities on par or better than that of, I hate to say it, the iPhone.

Thanks for the input Ex.

[Exil3d]

Originally Posted by mlin

Have you seen this http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=81090 ? Hopefully this will provide some releif until Tegra hits the market. I think the issue here is that HTC settled with mediocracy. Better chipsets have been available for awhile, yet its obvious HTC felt no need/desire to upgrade. I hope Microsoft ups the requirements list for WM7 to include a more robust processor with rendering capabilities on par or better than that of, I hate to say it, the iPhone.

Thanks for the input Ex.

Ohhh ! Nice... article. You see... theres alot of angry ppl craving to get off the MS72xx hardware. Dont be shy! Iphone surpasses everything out there, just like anything else... what ever is on top the compatition has to aim higher. If we all keep denying ourself in how superior the our Pro and Pro2 are because its not an IPHONe then we wont get nowhere.

[Exil3d]

Originally Posted by worldwide

Hello Ex! Nice review, I almost thanked you, goober!

You owe me a thxs. Better give it up!

I spent alot of time with the 2 phones and I left feeling like I just played with my Pro 1 just with a bigger screen. Seriously. Ans what was funny and immidietly new thewre was no driver was when I hit the windows to bring up the programs page on WM not TF3dYou know when you scroll down and you get that page tear? ahahah! Its was there. I almost stopped too but i figure might as well check the whole hardware from pics to vids to scroll to 3d rendering and 2d rendering. Like i said.. I felt like I was playing with my Pro but with a bigger screen.

[gTen]

Originally Posted by jethro_static

LOL. But seriously, The only device that can match the Iphone's 3D engine is a device with a Tegra chip.

Our current devices with the MSM7200 can easily match if not surpass an iPhone even without the Tegra..as stated..we just lack the cream filling :/

[yearn]

Originally Posted by gTen

Our current devices with the MSM7200 can easily match if not surpass an iPhone even without the Tegra..as stated..we just lack the cream filling :/

So is it Drivers its missing for the Q/C processer? Or is it actual hardware components?

[Exil3d]

Hardware is there. Drivers to unlock are not there. Htc refusses to pay liceace fee for it.