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Old 08-06-2009, 11:47 AM
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Re: Telus Touch Pro 2 - support Video call?

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In case we're not clear here...but from HTC Touch Pro 2/Rhodium - it supports video call (with a front facing video camera). Naturally not all carriers want to support it, so they'd have the device remove.

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http://www.htc.com/www/product/touch...ification.html
As I said the TP2 had a front camera but all CDMA providers removed it. You cannot have native video calls through CDMA..only through VOIP.

You can notice this by if you use CDMA and surf the internet and then get a phone call your internet is interrupted. GSM on the other hand supports Video calls.

This is a limitation of CDMA technology in general...only way to go around it while still using CDMA is to have 2x CDMA receivers instead of 1 which no phone yet has done. Due to advancing Technologies like LTE and Wimax I doubt CDMA will get much headway in the future.
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Re: Telus Touch Pro 2 - support Video call?

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As I said the TP2 had a front camera but all CDMA providers removed it. You cannot have native video calls through CDMA..only through VOIP.

You can notice this by if you use CDMA and surf the internet and then get a phone call your internet is interrupted. GSM on the other hand supports Video calls.

This is a limitation of CDMA technology in general...only way to go around it while still using CDMA is to have 2x CDMA receivers instead of 1 which no phone yet has done. Due to advancing Technologies like LTE and Wimax I doubt CDMA will get much headway in the future.
If Telus uses CDMA - then the rationale here is their carrier will not support video calls. Period.

If that's the case, then it's time for me to switch over to GSM.

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Re: Telus Touch Pro 2 - support Video call?

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As I said the TP2 had a front camera but all CDMA providers removed it. You cannot have native video calls through CDMA..only through VOIP.

You can notice this by if you use CDMA and surf the internet and then get a phone call your internet is interrupted. GSM on the other hand supports Video calls.

This is a limitation of CDMA technology in general...only way to go around it while still using CDMA is to have 2x CDMA receivers instead of 1 which no phone yet has done. Due to advancing Technologies like LTE and Wimax I doubt CDMA will get much headway in the future.
If Telus uses CDMA - then the rationale here is their carrier will not support video calls. Period.

If that's the case, then it's time for me to switch over to GSM.

Thank you.

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Re: Telus Touch Pro 2 - support Video call?

Be advised that Telus is rigging up their HSPA network... Video calling isn't used a lot even over seas where it is touted... it's somewhat of a fad that has seemly died out. Bing it and you'll see what I mean.
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Re: Telus Touch Pro 2 - support Video call?

I am not familiar with Canadian providers, but as said if it is a CDMA carrier native voice and data is not supported. It is one of the 2 major drawbacks of CDMA. You can however use voice and wifi and possibly achieve these results or VOIP via either the CDMA or wifi radio. Not sure if there is software out that supports either of these. The other drawback of CDMA is the lack of SIM cards. Having said all of that. I think someone will unlock the use of the GSM phone radios for this device. If that happens I am getting me some GSM data. This opens the door for virtually anything. It also makes me happy in my pants...
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Re: Telus Touch Pro 2 - support Video call?

Everywhere I have read articles about video calling overseas, 90% of the time they write about how it's a feature that 99% of customers don't use... this is quite a large endevour for take on with an existing system. even if the TP2 was able to prefrom video calls, basically only other TP2's would be able to receive them; no other phone on the CDMA network has the ability receive a call. the software on the phone just wouldn't know what to do with it...
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Re: Telus Touch Pro 2 - support Video call?

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Everywhere I have read articles about video calling overseas, 90% of the time they write about how it's a feature that 99% of customers don't use... this is quite a large endevour for take on with an existing system. even if the TP2 was able to prefrom video calls, basically only other TP2's would be able to receive them; no other phone on the CDMA network has the ability receive a call. the software on the phone just wouldn't know what to do with it...
They don't use it because its not very good or reliable...

1) you have to hod the phone in front of you all the time

2) The signal has to be reliable for both regular and data

I think the time it becomes more popular is with advancements of LTE and Wimax and preferably some 3d video capturing technology. As I can see mobile meetings may become more popular.
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Re: Telus Touch Pro 2 - support Video call?

all your logic is good, i agree.. however the govt can have its own frequencies, but theyll never get carriers to unify on one signal.. its might be 5G(maybe cuz of speeds theyd call it that) but it really would just be another cdma, gsm type network to run off of instead... maybe well have cdma, gsm, and Technology1 for networks... afterall if its about phones and outerspace Tech1 had to of come up with it LOL
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all your logic is good, i agree.. however the govt can have its own frequencies, but theyll never get carriers to unify on one signal.. its would be 5G(maybe cuz of speeds theyd call it that) but it really would just be another cdma, gsm type network to run off of instead
Thats not true, take NYC for example. Did you know all but 1 phone line is owned by Verizon? (Verizon has to lease the lines at standard rates to others) Also the MTA (our subway) is a private company funded by the government.

When you are talking about global 5g which is government funded..the carriers would have no choice but to join in...

1) any company that joins would have huge advantage over competition, and would cut down on costs a lot.

2) the government can theoretically halt all GSM and CDMA signals if they wanted to..like for example they did that in 2012 I think no light bulb can use up more then X energy..thus making all the common light bulbs illegal...well suck it up...law is law.

or even better..imagine the FCC stops accepting CDMA and GSM devices..stating that all cellphones must have the 5g similar to how they have 911..

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Re: Telus Touch Pro 2 - support Video call?

ah, the government cant just cease all signals..

first, theyd have to site the patriot act or something, since cell jamming is illegal by anyone..

second, the carrier pay fees for spectrum and its licenses.. not the government couldnt afford to pay it, but theyd get sued by every carrier there is..

i guess if you look at more in the prespective of the DTV now... basically the government forced that.. and it was join us, or not be able to broadcast anymore..

yeah i guess after saying that, i see what you mean... but at the same time, i dont think the government could do that... it would be along the same lines as not allowing free will in consumer choice... the government cant say use our network and noone elses, that hinders our free will to chose between cdma and gsm devices...

i dunno, its a decent argument both ways IMO, then again, im arguing one of the sides so im not really impartial here lol...

i think if the govt really tried to Standardize a network and forced all manufactures to adhere to those bands and thats it, all hell wold break lose..... people dont like when they govt tells them what to do...

and honestly, lets forget a National Cell Network, what kind of cash we dumping into that every yr.. how bout some National heath care instead lol
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