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warheed 12-05-2010 03:07 AM

Good time to leave TP2?
 
Let me start off by saying this was my first 'smart phone.' My experience has been phenomenal. After unlocking, I opened a whole new realm to this device than anticipated. I have flashed just about every reasonable rom and enjoyed countless cabs. I even haret'd my way to Android. In other words, I have learned EVERYTHING I know about mobile phones because of how interested I got in this phone.

I have decided right now is an optimal time for an upgrade*. I am not eligible for one until the 1st of January 2011, but I actually spent a while with customer service today convincing them to push it forward. The most I could get was December 18th (2 weeks.) I have been with Sprint for 4 years now and I even pay premium insurance and haven't used it once.. Has anyone got an upgrade earlier than that?

Anyway, I have decided on the 18th that I will be getting the Epic. It was a toss up between the Epic and the Evo, but I think I'll take the Epic for the Amoled and obviously the slide out qwerty. Both are Android, which I am not very familiar with, but with WP7 still in the works of even getting safely unlocked and surfacing decent cabs, I'll go with Android for a little while. I might come check out WP7 when the HD 7 comes out.

Well, sorry this was so long, all I really wanted was a few opinions on my decision and how 'early' they're giving me my upgrade *(I am on Sprint Premier and I'm offered one every 12 months).

Thread reopened by OP for true interest in opinion.

chardog 12-05-2010 03:40 AM

Re: Good time to leave TP2?
 
I would get the lg optimus right now. tomorrow is the last day for the free phone. Android is a like a mix between windows mobile and iphone. All the positives of each system without the negatives of wm. much faster and stable than the tp2. The evo and epic are nice, but I'm too cheap to pay the extra 10, on top of that, you can transition to soft keyboard pretty easily if you're good at swype. Plenty of people do fine on iphone's keyboard and I'll tell you that my LG is pretty damn close to the soft keyboard that iphone offers. Very usable, and swype is just cake on top of it.

major downside is the ability to edit docs and sync to outlook. It's so major that you should consider buying an app to handle it (applies to outlook users). I paid nearly $30 for some excellent software that is not offered in windows. Gsyncit = awesome sync tool. Tasker.... excellent automation tool. Your phone is crazy configurable with tasker... I mean it's too damn extensive to list. Single best software I've ever seen in any phone OS. You can have your phone switch to vibrate at work, switch on wifi at home, turn to silent during bed time, ect ect ect

eric12341 12-05-2010 08:28 AM

Re: Good time to leave TP2?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by chardog (Post 2007628)
I would get the lg optimus right now. tomorrow is the last day for the free phone. Android is a like a mix between windows mobile and iphone. All the positives of each system without the negatives of wm. much faster and stable than the tp2. The evo and epic are nice, but I'm too cheap to pay the extra 10, on top of that, you can transition to soft keyboard pretty easily if you're good at swype. Plenty of people do fine on iphone's keyboard and I'll tell you that my LG is pretty damn close to the soft keyboard that iphone offers. Very usable, and swype is just cake on top of it.

major downside is the ability to edit docs and sync to outlook. It's so major that you should consider buying an app to handle it (applies to outlook users). I paid nearly $30 for some excellent software that is not offered in windows. Gsyncit = awesome sync tool. Tasker.... excellent automation tool. Your phone is crazy configurable with tasker... I mean it's too damn extensive to list. Single best software I've ever seen in any phone OS. You can have your phone switch to vibrate at work, switch on wifi at home, turn to silent during bed time, ect ect ect

says la molestia


and thread reported BTW

gTen 12-05-2010 10:24 AM

Re: Good time to leave TP2?
 
You may be able to convince them to bring up the date...those with 2 year contracts ive seen people move up by 4-6 month when lucky...premier upgrade is a bit tougher...but Ive seen people get 1 month out of them..

SweetBearCub 12-05-2010 10:28 AM

Re: Good time to leave TP2?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by eric12341 (Post 2007679)
and thread reported BTW

Why? The OP wanted info on his options after already deciding to move away from his TP2. Since he is still "officially" a TP2 user (until he actually gets his next phone), he posted to the TP2 forum.

Further, while he could have posted this thread in "Off Topic" - It's not off topic. He wanted the opinion of other TP2 users who have switched, and he got that.

It sounds to me like you guard this forum like a 3-headed dog, and attack if anyone should dare speak of moving away from the TP2. I've got news for you - It's going to happen, whether you like it or not. The only question is - Will you continue to act like a small child who sticks their fingers in their ears at the first mention of switching away (ala "I can't HEAR you!") or will you be an adult and actually try to answer their questions constructively?

gTen 12-05-2010 10:39 AM

Re: Good time to leave TP2?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by warheed (Post 2007614)
Thread edited by OP for (violation?)

Your not committing any violations.. these kind of threads usually fall into a gray area so its up to the mod of this section to decide if he wants to move it..but I guarantee you its not a violation lol

warheed 12-05-2010 11:14 AM

Re: Good time to leave TP2?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gTen (Post 2007696)
You may be able to convince them to bring up the date...those with 2 year contracts ive seen people move up by 4-6 month when lucky...premier upgrade is a bit tougher...but Ive seen people get 1 month out of them..

I have the 2 year premier everything data contract. I started it with my TP2 on 1/1/10. They said the best they could do for me was to move my upgrade from 1/1/11 to 12/17/10. That's crazy people have got their upgrade half a year early! Unless you're talking about 4-6 months before their 2 year anniversary.

gTen 12-05-2010 11:25 AM

Re: Good time to leave TP2?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by warheed (Post 2007715)
I have the 2 year premier everything data contract. I started it with my TP2 on 1/1/10. They said the best they could do for me was to move my upgrade from 1/1/11 to 12/17/10. That's crazy people have got their upgrade half a year early! Unless you're talking about 4-6 months before their 2 year anniversary.

I was talking about 2 years...but as stated on 1 year you might be able to get them to make it a month off...

warheed 12-05-2010 12:12 PM

Re: Good time to leave TP2?
 
I was on the phone for about an hour with a few different supervisors for different departments. Two weeks was apparently the best they could do, and of course they tried to jerk me around.. I think I could have told the sales supervisor that I was told by another department they would give me the upgrade 1 month early, they would have just done it. They didn't ask any questions when I told them about my promised 2 weeks.

eman 12-05-2010 12:38 PM

Re: Good time to leave TP2?
 
Switched from a TP2 to an Evo the day it was released. Best phone I have used to date and I have been using smartphones for the past 10 years.

One great thing about the EVO is the amount of support you will find for it and custom Roms. Can't speak for the EPIC but for the EVO we have Roms that include the new Sense, MIUI Roms, AOSP Roms, and a ton of the standard Sense Roms.

The development on the EVO has been insane! Might want to take a look at that for the EPIc and see where they stand. Also, I will take the larger screen over a slightly better screen any day.....

gTen 12-05-2010 01:31 PM

Re: Good time to leave TP2?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by warheed (Post 2007726)
I was on the phone for about an hour with a few different supervisors for different departments. Two weeks was apparently the best they could do, and of course they tried to jerk me around.. I think I could have told the sales supervisor that I was told by another department they would give me the upgrade 1 month early, they would have just done it. They didn't ask any questions when I told them about my promised 2 weeks.

Well as I said its not simple for a whole month when premier..but they put notes on your account so no reason they wouldn't be surprised..my guess they moved it up 2 weeks before Christmas...

Quote:

Originally Posted by eman (Post 2007734)
Switched from a TP2 to an Evo the day it was released. Best phone I have used to date and I have been using smartphones for the past 10 years.

One great thing about the EVO is the amount of support you will find for it and custom Roms. Can't speak for the EPIC but for the EVO we have Roms that include the new Sense, MIUI Roms, AOSP Roms, and a ton of the standard Sense Roms.

The development on the EVO has been insane! Might want to take a look at that for the EPIc and see where they stand. Also, I will take the larger screen over a slightly better screen any day.....

The development for the Epic is not too bad...the thing about the Epic is its actually pretty good Stock...unlike most other phones which rely on modification to make it work right..Epic works right out of box..don't get me wrong its not issue free..but its very impressive for a stock phone...that said we have a bit of development going on it as well..and fyi, the Epic screen is not a little better but A LOT better..mostly if you get an EVO with a bad screen (cause each revision has a different manufacturer screen)...

Miami_Son 12-05-2010 01:34 PM

Re: Good time to leave TP2?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by eman (Post 2007734)
Switched from a TP2 to an Evo the day it was released. Best phone I have used to date and I have been using smartphones for the past 10 years..

Wow! Even longer than they've existed.:evil4:

gTen 12-05-2010 01:55 PM

Re: Good time to leave TP2?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Miami_Son (Post 2007761)
Wow! Even longer than they've existed.:evil4:

Not true...

"In 2000 Ericsson released the touchscreen smartphone R380, the first device to use the new Symbian OS.[12]"

next one came out in 2002 which would be 8 years..

But some can claim 17-18 years..

"The first smartphone was called Simon; it was designed by IBM in 1992 and shown as a concept product[8] that year at COMDEX, the computer industry trade show held in Las Vegas, Nevada. It was released to the public in 1993 and sold by BellSouth."

There was also a nokia phone, "Nokia 9000, released in 1996"

Smartphone - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

horndoctor 12-05-2010 02:02 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by warheed
Let me start off by saying this was my first 'smart phone.' My experience has been phenomenal. After unlocking, I opened a whole new realm to this device than anticipated. I have flashed just about every reasonable rom and enjoyed countless cabs. I even haret'd my way to Android. In other words, I have learned EVERYTHING I know about mobile phones because of how interested I got in this phone.

I have decided right now is an optimal time for an upgrade*. I am not eligible for one until the 1st of January 2011, but I actually spent a while with customer service today convincing them to push it forward. The most I could get was December 18th (2 weeks.) I have been with Sprint for 4 years now and I even pay premium insurance and haven't used it once.. Has anyone got an upgrade earlier than that?

Anyway, I have decided on the 18th that I will be getting the Epic. It was a toss up between the Epic and the Evo, but I think I'll take the Epic for the Amoled and obviously the slide out qwerty. Both are Android, which I am not very familiar with, but with WP7 still in the works of even getting safely unlocked and surfacing decent cabs, I'll go with Android for a little while. I might come check out WP7 when the HD 7 comes out.

Well, sorry this was so long, all I really wanted was a few opinions on my decision and how 'early' they're giving me my upgrade *(I am on Sprint Premier and I'm offered one every 12 months).

Thread reopened by OP for true interest in opinion.

By switching to Android, you have given up more of your privacy. Beware! :angry7:

Maxx134 12-05-2010 02:22 PM

Re: Good time to leave TP2?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gTen (Post 2007758)

The development for the Epic is not too bad...the thing about the Epic is its actually pretty good Stock...unlike most other phones which rely on modification to make it work right..Epic works right out of box..don't get me wrong its not issue free..but its very impressive for a stock phone...that said we have a bit of development going on it as well..and fyi, the Epic screen is not a little better but A LOT better..mostly if you get an EVO with a bad screen (cause each revision has a different manufacturer screen)...

Thanx this is very insightful information and a relief to know,
As I also plan to move to Epic by Feb because I already on a 4g plan with my bro's epic.

Not to knock the Evo, but both the Epic and even my TP2 has a much more colorful screen than the EVO.

Hmm, I guess I am knocking the Evo,
because I feel important to warn potential buyers
that the battery life is very dismall..
My co-worker's Evo on stock rom, barely last one day on TWO batteries!

eric12341 12-05-2010 03:50 PM

Re: Good time to leave TP2?
 
why the hurry to upgrade, is ur TP2 that repulsive? ten pacencia and wait for a wp7 phone.

jmsnyc 12-05-2010 03:51 PM

Re: Good time to leave TP2?
 
Replaced my TP2 with the Epic about a week ago - so far - no regrets...

What is the best way to prep my TP2 for sale? Should I just do a hard reset? I am running MightyRom.

warheed 12-05-2010 03:56 PM

Re: Good time to leave TP2?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by eman (Post 2007734)
Also, I will take the larger screen over a slightly better screen any day.....

I lust just as much as the next Tim the Toolman for the precious 4.3" display. In fact I wanted a Droidx or Evo so bad when they came out I wanted to bite the full cost of the Evo, or even drop Sprint. My dad just picked up the HD7 and it has the 4.3" screen also, it is just plain gorgeous.

But! you definitely can not call the AMOLED screen on this galaxy 'slightly' better by any stretch. Perhaps the resolution is the same, but it is remarkably much more gorgeous.

warheed 12-05-2010 03:59 PM

Re: Good time to leave TP2?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jmsnyc (Post 2007822)
Replaced my TP2 with the Epic about a week ago - so far - no regrets...

What is the best way to prep my TP2 for sale? Should I just do a hard reset? I am running MightyRom.


I'm going to put mine on Craigslist as is, even offer the buyer an option for me to teach them a little about customization. Or I can put back the stock 6.5 or even original 6.1 release per request. I expect to get between $150 and $200 as there isn't so much as a scratch on this device. I keep my electronics very babied.

Let me know your results my friend!

warheed 12-05-2010 04:05 PM

Re: Good time to leave TP2?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by eric12341 (Post 2007821)
why the hurry to upgrade, is ur TP2 that repulsive? ten pacencia and wait for a wp7 phone.

Not repulsive at all! I love this phone. I just think that financially and from an investment standpoint, right now is the optimal time to switch up. After it is all said and done, I figure I can get the Epic for about $50-100 (max.) And it is (spec wise) twice the phone the TP2 is. Also, with the upcoming phones on Sprint being not very interesting (except the Knight and the WP7 TP3.) The TP3 is kind of a slap in the face to me though.. It's gorgeous, obviously. I love the layout of my TP2, and the TP3 is the same basically, but the specs are going to be dated by the time it finally hits the shelf. And the Knight will be just a good teaser for me to warm me up for my next phone in either Q2 or Q3 of 2011..

austin420 12-05-2010 04:11 PM

Re: Good time to leave TP2?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by warheed (Post 2007827)
I'm going to put mine on Craigslist as is, even offer the buyer an option for me to teach them a little about customization. Or I can put back the stock 6.5 or even original 6.1 release per request. I expect to get between $150 and $200 as there isn't so much as a scratch on this device. I keep my electronics very babied.

Let me know your results my friend!


most people outside of us wont even know what stock, custom, 6.1, or 6.5 is. just remember that most people are going to walk in to a store to activte it and it may cause them problems to try it with a custom rom. i made the mistake of selling one of my old tp2s to a 19 y/o blackberry user. first i had to provide tech support over the phone to this girl for two weeks before she ended up filing ebay and paypal complaints against me because she just couldnt figure out how to work it. sell it here. youll get a bunch of lowballers but it will sell and probably a lot more hassle free than selling to a noob.

warheed 12-05-2010 10:46 PM

Re: Good time to leave TP2?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by austin420 (Post 2007833)
most people outside of us wont even know what stock, custom, 6.1, or 6.5 is. just remember that most people are going to walk in to a store to activte it and it may cause them problems to try it with a custom rom. i made the mistake of selling one of my old tp2s to a 19 y/o blackberry user. first i had to provide tech support over the phone to this girl for two weeks before she ended up filing ebay and paypal complaints against me because she just couldnt figure out how to work it. sell it here. youll get a bunch of lowballers but it will sell and probably a lot more hassle free than selling to a noob.

Sadly, I realize you're very right. NONE of my friends root or unlock their phones. I don't see what the point of having something this powerful and not utilizing the amazing roms this community creates. Still though, hopefully I can find someone local and sell it before Christmas (obviously perfect time.) If not, I would actually not mind lowballing it to a respectable user here. Especially someone that has contributed to any of the roms or cabs I have loved throughout my TP2 tenure.

eric12341 12-06-2010 01:55 AM

Re: Good time to leave TP2?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by austin420 (Post 2007833)
most people outside of us wont even know what stock, custom, 6.1, or 6.5 is. just remember that most people are going to walk in to a store to activte it and it may cause them problems to try it with a custom rom. i made the mistake of selling one of my old tp2s to a 19 y/o blackberry user. first i had to provide tech support over the phone to this girl for two weeks before she ended up filing ebay and paypal complaints against me because she just couldnt figure out how to work it. sell it here. youll get a bunch of lowballers but it will sell and probably a lot more hassle free than selling to a noob.

was she a hot & spicy latina?

austin420 12-06-2010 02:36 AM

Re: Good time to leave TP2?
 
it happens that she was not a hot an spicy latina. she was a bitchy entitled white girl from the chicago suburbs. **** ebay by the way. http://serve.mysmiley.net/mad/mad0025.gif
i cant believe they sided with her.

eric12341 12-06-2010 04:48 AM

Re: Good time to leave TP2?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by austin420 (Post 2008122)
it happens that she was not a hot an spicy latina. she was a bitchy entitled white girl from the chicago suburbs. **** ebay by the way. http://serve.mysmiley.net/mad/mad0025.gif
i cant believe they sided with her.

ooooooo the worst kind!!

gTen 12-06-2010 06:39 AM

Re: Good time to leave TP2?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by austin420 (Post 2008122)
it happens that she was not a hot an spicy latina. she was a bitchy entitled white girl from the chicago suburbs. **** ebay by the way. http://serve.mysmiley.net/mad/mad0025.gif
i cant believe they sided with her.

From what I hear ebay always sides with the buyer :/

nrfitchett4 12-06-2010 08:53 AM

Re: Good time to leave TP2?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by warheed (Post 2007827)
I'm going to put mine on Craigslist as is, even offer the buyer an option for me to teach them a little about customization. Or I can put back the stock 6.5 or even original 6.1 release per request. I expect to get between $150 and $200 as there isn't so much as a scratch on this device. I keep my electronics very babied.

Let me know your results my friend!

good luck on that price. You might find a tweaker on craigslist, but more powerful phones are going for 150-200 (hd2, evo).

gTen 12-06-2010 09:50 AM

Re: Good time to leave TP2?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nrfitchett4 (Post 2008177)
good luck on that price. You might find a tweaker on craigslist, but more powerful phones are going for 150-200 (hd2, evo).

They are going for that price on contract...

TP2 for 150-200 with no contract is what it goes for considering...

1) its best phone with regular sero
2) its a world phone
3) some people need winmo for work applications

warheed 12-06-2010 02:45 PM

Re: Good time to leave TP2?
 
I will definitely let everyone know what it goes for, if and when it sells.

steveo70 12-07-2010 02:25 AM

Re: Good time to leave TP2?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by horndoctor (Post 2007775)
Wirelessly posted (htc Pocket PC: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows CE; IEMobile 7.11) Sprint MP6950SP)



By switching to Android, you have given up more of your privacy. Beware! :angry7:

Agreed.

Nickdrakewhat 12-07-2010 03:17 PM

Re: Good time to leave TP2?
 
laughed a little at the original post..

as a previous employee for Sprint, i will say that you didn't really get anywhere with customer service by "pushing your upgrade" to the 18th. it's actually a policy to let someone have an upgrade two weeks prior to their eligibility date (hence the 18th). it's the 18th for every month also. made quite a few sales off that pitch.

sprint premier just means that you get a full upgrade every year rather than every two.

jmsnyc 12-08-2010 09:49 AM

Re: Good time to leave TP2?
 
Anyone point me to a thread or tell me steps on how to prepare the TP2 for sale? IE Wipe all info beyond a hard reset.

Thanks.

Miami_Son 12-08-2010 10:57 AM

Re: Good time to leave TP2?
 
A hard reset (Clear Storage) does wipe all info.

Looks like I'll be joining you. Upgraded to a Samsung Captivate last night. Couldn't pass it up at only $39 through Amazon.

warheed 12-08-2010 04:49 PM

Re: Good time to leave TP2?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nickdrakewhat (Post 2009066)
laughed a little at the original post..

as a previous employee for Sprint, i will say that you didn't really get anywhere with customer service by "pushing your upgrade" to the 18th. it's actually a policy to let someone have an upgrade two weeks prior to their eligibility date (hence the 18th). it's the 18th for every month also. made quite a few sales off that pitch.

sprint premier just means that you get a full upgrade every year rather than every two.

I wasn't bragging about the 2 weeks, I was asking if anyone has gotten an upgrade earlier, so there is absolutely no need to laugh. I'm also quite aware what premier means.

I'm a mechanical engineer for NSN, so perhaps I should laugh at your recent and possibly even current working habitat.

Nice try being a jerk.

WorldWide 12-09-2010 12:10 PM

Re: Good time to leave TP2?
 
As much as I tried to resist it, I'm making a move to the Epic myself. My brother just got one, and I was impressed, I'm upgradeable as of 1/1/11, and I might ask Sprint to bump me 2 weeks too. I'm keeping my TP2 though.

eric12341 12-09-2010 01:44 PM

Re: Good time to leave TP2?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jmsnyc (Post 2009591)
Anyone point me to a thread or tell me steps on how to prepare the TP2 for sale? IE Wipe all info beyond a hard reset.

Thanks.

my laugh of the day

boredandtattooed 12-09-2010 03:36 PM

Re: Good time to leave TP2?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Miami_Son (Post 2009606)
A hard reset (Clear Storage) does wipe all info.

Looks like I'll be joining you. Upgraded to a Samsung Captivate last night. Couldn't pass it up at only $39 through Amazon.

got ripped.. I see them for .01 or $1 for AT&T all the time... or so I thought

http://www8.samsclub.com/eCommerce/S...4db66457ef42cb $9.74

http://radioshackwireless.com/eComme...330e36f282567c FREE or $30 for contract renewal upgrade

i guess the FREE tag goes with NEW activation not contract renewal/upgrades

Morningglory 12-09-2010 04:24 PM

Re: Good time to leave TP2?
 
I've lived with winmo 5 for over 6 years on the tiny screen of a Treo 700, and I'm starting to wonder if i can bail on 6.5 and install 5 on the TP2, HTC 7 pro is due out next year, but android is really starting to temp me........

gullzway 12-09-2010 04:52 PM

Re: Good time to leave TP2?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by WorldWide (Post 2010419)
As much as I tried to resist it, I'm making a move to the Epic myself. My brother just got one, and I was impressed, I'm upgradeable as of 1/1/11, and I might ask Sprint to bump me 2 weeks too. I'm keeping my TP2 though.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Miami_Son (Post 2009606)
A hard reset (Clear Storage) does wipe all info.

Looks like I'll be joining you. Upgraded to a Samsung Captivate last night. Couldn't pass it up at only $39 through Amazon.

You won't be disappointed! With 2.2 these phones are Awesome. Best out! Although you'll be paying more and have more dropped calls on AT&T:scratch:

bigdinog 12-09-2010 05:11 PM

Re: Good time to leave TP2?
 
Switched to the EVO from the TP2 about 3 months ago. I was stuck on the TP2 and how great a phone it was. That is until I got the EVO. I sold my TP2 to a close friend, and when I see and use it, I wonder why I didnt get an EVO earlier. TP2 was great, but does not compare to the EVO or Epic.


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