Re: Good time to leave TP2?
 

I will be very disappointed if Samsung/AT$T does not provide the promised update to Froyo for the Captivate.:???:

I was going to go with a Droid X, but an equivalent plan to what I have on AT$T (got to keep my $15 unlimited data) would have cost me $20 more a month on Verizon.

I have a friend who's had froyo on his captivate for months, though not official, it works great! Check XDA.

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Is this the Touch Pro2 forum? :evil4:

Re: Good time to leave TP2?
 

Shut up, or I'll call you a name.:mrgreen:

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When I sell my phone's I also enter in my MSL code and clear my phone number out which a hard reset will not do. I actually sold a device a few years back and didn't know to do this.

I started to see charges on my account for things I did not purchase. After figuring out what was going on, it took me hours on top of hours to finally get a high level Sprint tech to actually see that the person who bought my phone was downloading items and it was being charged to my account. Guess they were using the phone before actually activating it and it was allowing them to download things on my account.........

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eman, that's a really good point, thanks for reminding anyone who might be wanting to sell their phones. You've been thanked!

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Did you really just suggest that someone leaving the TP2 go to the Optimus? lol.

The Optimus is an underpowered doorstop. The TP2 has 4 times the rom and twice the RAM of the Optimus. He wants a new phone, not a worse one with a worse screen (TP2 800x400, Optimus 320x480). Hell my 3 year old Mogul had 320x480.

OP, go with the Evo or Epic and you will not be sorry. I just left my TP2 last month and while I still love it, it can't compare. Having a huge capacitive screen is pure joy, not to mention the increase in horsepower.

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Never once considered grabbing the Optimus, describing it as a 'doorstop' is about as perfect as it gets. I am 100% going for the Epic on the 18th, and I'm going to be delighted.

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Wow, thanks for this. I was going to offer my Tilt 2 for sale as-is with all the mods and purchased software already on it (after I scrubbed my personal stuff off it). There went that idea. I'm curious, though. Is this only a problem for Sprint and non-SIM carriers? Without my AT$T SIM the phone can't access the network as me and charge downloads to my account. And what's an MSL#?

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Master Subsidy Lock

Since you can remove your SIM you are ok. ;)

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Cool, I think it is worth more as-is and if the buyer wants to revert it to stock they have the option to do it themself. I'll refrain from calling you any names...for now.:twisted:

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MmmKay...

Yep, the MSL is tied to a SIM but since we CDMArs don't use SIMs(except on gsm side) the extra step is probably a good idea. :D

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So before sale the sim should be removed, how do you enter the msl code to wipe the phone number?

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Dial ##786# and enter MSL which will do a full wipe & reset and also clear your phone number. :)

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Ok thanks. I found it by MSL by enabling logging in the registry per this http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/htc-touch-...ml#post1224503

I flashed back to 6.5 stock rom and removed sim. Now time to create the ebay sale page =)

I love my EPIC wayyyy better than the TP2. Even from day one the TP2 was always a pita for me, sluggish pocket dialer..... I sometimes get frustrated with the Epic because sometimes I forget to hit the Send button the extra time when making a call b/c I am so use to the TP2 but it is so much better than accidentally calling someone on the TP2 when just trying to view contact info.

BTW, flashing back to stock - will it reverse the fact that the phone is unlocked?

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I'm kind of in the same boat (I think most of us are :) ).

TP2 has been great. Once I settled on a ROM using Kitchen I have not touched it in 6 months !!

All I need is GPS Nav (iGuidance or similar)
Browsing
And Exchange based Email/Contacts.
Tether (Wifi hot spot is fine)

I'm concerned about exchange. A coworker has a Droid and does have it working but it's not as good as Windows Mobile (he says). I think he is very knowledgable but it's fairly stock.

Since EVO has been out for while. I thought why not wait until Sprint for next Gen EVO.

But I'm on SERO 500. And I can supposedly upgrade to SERO 1250 (still a bargain).
I'm worried that opportunity may change.

But what would I really get over TP2. Not perfect but it works. I rarely use keyboard.

With HTC's look and feel the EVO looked so much like a TP2.

Most reviews give EVO the edge over the Epic.

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Don't do that! Makes more sense to upgrade to Sero 500 Premium for $10/month more. You get AnyMobile Anytime calling and can use Android phones. $10/month more for an Evo or Epic(i.e. 4G fee.)

So $50/month to use any phone you want and 500 landline minutes, unlimited cell minutes.

Most of those probably compared the Evo on 2.2 Android to the newly released Epic on 2.1 Android(with some reports of GPS issues.)

The Epic beats the Evo in Specs alone (superior GPU/CPU/Screen), not to mention it now has 2.2(though not official,) with a flawless GPS.

The epic does beat the evo in specs but what do you except when the epic was released after the evo? If it didn't have better specs then that would have been pointless. Even with better specs they are still both great phones. Not one is better then the other. Its all about your preference. I myself like htc and htc sense over samsungs ui. But my friend likes the samsung super amoled which I think looks good but think some of the colors on epic are discolored. But both epic and evo both beat iphone. At least for as long as iphone stays on att. But hey, its just an opinion.

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It's a little bit beyond preference in some aspects.

Looking at the phones from a pure hardware view, the Epic obviously wins with amoled, hummingbird cpu and hard keyboard (among higher storage capacity and gpu) vs. Evo with the snapdragon cpu, hdmi out and a huge 4.3" display, that certainly is a matter of choice.

What the issue as stated in a post before yours is the issue with the operating systems. The Evo is coming out of the box with 2.2 built in now. Through my research, I have still yet to find someone running Froyo on the Epic4g with no complaints.
Please prove!

This is causing some headaches for me. I was expecting the epic to be THE next upgrade. Now with the Nexus s coming out, which is basically the Epic, with 2.3 support assured, the Epic is going to be 2 osupdates behind the Nexus S and 1 behind the Evo.. Grr..

And no it's not about who has the latest operating system. I believe this is a testament to the attention and detail Samsung will be putting into the future of this device. With that being said, I am fully aware that Froyo and even in the near future Gingerbread will be fully operational on the Epic, my question is just a matter of when.

I have also been talking alot with Android devs the past few days and they are warning me about several new implications and indications that there will be issues with Google trying to nazi the freeware dev apps very soon.

So, I might push back my upgrade for a small while, although no better sprint devices will be presenting themselves in 2011.... I find the htc 7 kind of a slap in the face, and I am not interested in the Knight. What I was thinking about doing was 'upgrading' to the dell inspiron 11z or maybe even the galaxy tablet. I will keep my TP2 for service and I can tether wherever I may roam. Not to mention, where ISNT there wifi anymore..?

What do you guys think about using the upgrade to score a laptop/tablet?

My Epic is running flawless on 2.2. Gps is accurate to 1 meter, flash video is working great!

Sent from my Epic 3G on SERO.

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Functional Flash 10.1? Did you get the OEM update from Sprint or did you odim and clockwork your way into it?

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While there are leaked froyo builds which Epic users can flash via odin and clockwork, recently a leak to an update.zip was found on Google's servers which was believed to be either a GA or at least a RC1 ( DK28 ) of the Froyo (some people with older Epic hardware got it as an OTA)..This update.zip can be flashed via stock recovery without a need for clockwork, or odin.

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Flashing the stock rom does not relock it. You have to run the re-locker to do that.

Sorry to hear you hate it so much.
I wouldn't trade mine.

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Got a link and is it just for the Epic or will it work for the Captivate, as well?

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http://android.clients.google.com/pa...DI18ToDK28.zip

Its only for the Epic, Captivate should have froyo builds as well but I think you need clockwork/odin to flash

I used odin to flash stock dk17 rom, very easy. Flash works on all websites I've tried, using stock browser u.c. Web browser and dolphin! Oh, Hulu is also working!

Sent from my Epic 3G on SERO.

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Thanks for the tip. Why do say it's only $10.00 more a mo but then say total is $50.00 instead of $40.00

Can I upgrade my $30 sero to $40 for sero 500 premium? plus tax and insurance it will be around $50 (is that what you meant).

The one review I read said epic screen in nice but sunshine completely wipes it out and does not on evo. And the larger size is nice. I use gps all the time and bigger bright light tolerable screen is important. I never use keyboard. And processor is better on epic but my understanding is they are close.

So it's pretty even.

Yes $40/ month for sero 500 premium. Except for the evo or epic, the only 2,so far, that also require the additional $10 cool fee!

Sent from my Epic 3G on SERO.

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Ooh didn't know about the "cool fee".

Any suggestions on whom to call for this plan upgrade and reasonable price on the EVO or Epic phone.

I'm 1 year in on TP2.

Thanks again for the info.

I just played with Android 2.2 on my TP2, looking pretty good but not real usable but it certainly gives you a good flavor.

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how did you get hulu working? i installed flash and changed it to desktop mode in Dolphin but the videos do not play?

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I used the modified flash version here [MOD] Hulu on the Epic 4g (2.2.1 FROYO) [UPDATE 11/22/10] - xda-developers

I also removed the Stock Browser using Titanium Backup, then used recovery to add the Modified Stock Browser in the same thread on Post #57.

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We are also wondering which phone to go to ....

I think my decision will be made as to how the windows 7 phone is locked down and if I can use it the way I want to ...

Otherwise we will be looking at either the Android or the New Iphone

If we switch look for our contributions (below) to be either ported or discontinued

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I'm torn. On the TP2, I can do FTP and SSH (which I use for work). Can't do that on WP7 so far. Android can do both, I assume, but can't do sharepoint NTLM, which WP7 can do. I'm jealous of the speed, particularly with browsers, that I'm seeing on the newer smartphones but I think I have to wait it out for awhile.

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You can access NTLM on Android..using Firefox 4 Beta..

There is also this browser:

SPElements Quick Browser for SharePoint (Android Application)

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If you highly depend on Voice Command on TP2 you can just forget about Android right now.

It don't work, as incredible as that may seem.

If you copy all your exchange contacts to GMail and maintain duplicate lists I'm told it will work. But I have sensitive info in my contacts that I don't want on a google server.

Totally unbelievable.

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Voice command works fine on 2.2 and there are software that make it better..

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this thread is unbelievable. nothing wrong with keeping the tp2 till the WP7 phones are out. buying a new phone every 6 mos in an attempt to have the latest greatest and top of the line is as commercial and bandwagon jumping as one can get

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But you still have the security issue. :p

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and holding a tp2 until death is soo very fight club of you.
yea. i used fight club as a verb. want to fight about it?

Re: Good time to leave TP2?
 

What security issues?