Originally Posted by austin420 (Post 2030121)

and holding a tp2 until death is soo very fight club of you.
yea. i used fight club as a verb. want to fight about it?

Originally Posted by gTen (Post 2029833)

Voice command works fine on 2.2 and there are software that make it better..

Originally Posted by gTen

What security issues?

Originally Posted by mswlogo (Post 2030256)

What software to make it better and what security issue?

Originally Posted by horndoctor (Post 2030279)

Wirelessly posted (htc Pocket PC: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows CE; IEMobile 7.11) Sprint MP6950SP)



lol!
I just meant that he said that he had sensitive info in his contacts and didn't want to upload that info to Google's server obviously for security reasons. ;)

Originally Posted by horndoctor (Post 2031003)

Wirelessly posted (htc Pocket PC: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows CE; IEMobile 7.11) Sprint MP6950SP)

They ask permission but they take what they want anyway. :twisted:

Originally Posted by heem_infinite (Post 2031599)

Does anybody know if that Evo Shift is any good?

Originally Posted by eric12341 (Post 2031618)

never have i seen so much Android talk in the windows mobile section.

Originally Posted by eric12341 (Post 2031630)

that's an exception and if WM was dead they wouldn't have updated the Facebook,MySpace or bing apps. bing jus recently got an update because when i installed it after installing lead rom the intro screen said copyright 2011 microsoft ¿cómo lo ves?

Originally Posted by eric12341 (Post 2030139)

tell me what good is it in buying a new phone every 6 mos?

Originally Posted by warheed (Post 2007831)

Not repulsive at all! I love this phone. I just think that financially and from an investment standpoint, right now is the optimal time to switch up. After it is all said and done, I figure I can get the Epic for about $50-100 (max.) And it is (spec wise) twice the phone the TP2 is. Also, with the upcoming phones on Sprint being not very interesting (except the Knight and the WP7 TP3.) The TP3 is kind of a slap in the face to me though.. It's gorgeous, obviously. I love the layout of my TP2, and the TP3 is the same basically, but the specs are going to be dated by the time it finally hits the shelf. And the Knight will be just a good teaser for me to warm me up for my next phone in either Q2 or Q3 of 2011..

Originally Posted by crazed_z06 (Post 2031669)

Who said anything about buying a phone every six months?

I ditched the TP2 because it was a terrible devices. Store more than 100 text messages and it'd freeze up. Not to mention it was slow as molasses. I havent missed a single thing going to the Droid X.

I still have my TP2 and all kinds of accessories sitting in a box here. I should sell it all for 100 bucks, but I cant sell something like this terrible in good conscience.

Originally Posted by crazed_z06

Who said anything about buying a phone every six months?

I ditched the TP2 because it was a terrible devices. Store more than 100 text messages and it'd freeze up. Not to mention it was slow as molasses. I havent missed a single thing going to the Droid X.

I still have my TP2 and all kinds of accessories sitting in a box here. I should sell it all for 100 bucks, but I cant sell something like this terrible in good conscience.

Originally Posted by horndoctor (Post 2031672)

Wirelessly posted (htc Pocket PC: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows CE; IEMobile 7.11) Sprint MP6950SP)



You just moved on to something that is dumbed down enough for you to understand it. ;)
Plus you sacrificed your privacy to Google.
Do you feel more included since you have joined the fAndroid sheep?

Move along now.

Originally Posted by mobius999 (Post 2011066)

Did you really just suggest that someone leaving the TP2 go to the Optimus? lol.

The Optimus is an underpowered doorstop. The TP2 has 4 times the rom and twice the RAM of the Optimus. He wants a new phone, not a worse one with a worse screen (TP2 800x400, Optimus 320x480). Hell my 3 year old Mogul had 320x480.

OP, go with the Evo or Epic and you will not be sorry. I just left my TP2 last month and while I still love it, it can't compare. Having a huge capacitive screen is pure joy, not to mention the increase in horsepower.

Originally Posted by chardog (Post 2031837)

ignorant statement, calling the optimus underpowered (especially for the price point). If the optimus is underpowered, I dont know what you would think of the TP2.....

4 times the rom and twice the ram? I dont really care if those numbers are right or not, the TP2 is much much slower than the optimus, and I'm sure there's a lot of people that can vouch for this in the optimus section, who are previous tp2 users: http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/lg-optimus...r-optimus.html

the optimus runs the same chipset as the evo, just slower clock speed.

Analysis of Qualcomm MSM7x27 (MSM7227 MSM7627) and MSM7x25 (MSM7225 MSM7625) processors - how good are they? - Smartphone Benchmarks (SmartBench 2010/Quadrant) Forum

sure, you may not be able to play the fastest racing games (not without a custom rom at least), but it's in a completely different league than the TP2. Sacrifice resolution for multitouch capacitative screen, better battery life, no SOD, better camera, better voice commands, speech to text that works, better navigation, faster, and more reliable phone.

Originally Posted by eric12341

this is an ignorant statement. of course any fandroid is gonna say the phone is better no matter what. i used one in the Sprint store and jus couldn't stand it,the screen was smaller and it didn't seem much faster or slower than my TP2 which doesn't suffer from the issues u mentioned because i don't use the stock 6.5 rom and I've said this before but u jus like to leave ur drive by cheap smartass $0.02 . if u hate the TP2 and MS so damn much then go buy an Android phone and leave us TP2 users the HELL ALONE you ignorant troll.

Originally Posted by eric12341 (Post 2031989)

this is an ignorant statement. of course any fandroid is gonna say the phone is better no matter what. i used one in the Sprint store and jus couldn't stand it,the screen was smaller and it didn't seem much faster or slower than my TP2 which doesn't suffer from the issues u mentioned because i don't use the stock 6.5 rom and I've said this before but u jus like to leave ur drive by cheap smartass $0.02 . if u hate the TP2 and MS so damn much then go buy an Android phone and leave us TP2 users the HELL ALONE you ignorant troll.

Originally Posted by tsowen (Post 2036599)

Now I am sure everyone can have an opinion without being chastised about it right? So lets keep the discussion healthy and on topic and refrain from calling each other names or puting people down please.

Thanks

Originally Posted by crazed_z06 (Post 2031669)

I still have my TP2 and all kinds of accessories sitting in a box here. I should sell it all for 100 bucks, but I cant sell something like this terrible in good conscience.

Originally Posted by orangekid (Post 2036610)

Exactly right, let's keep this civil. You can disagree without resorting to puerile name-calling and flaming.

Thank you for your cooperation, now back to your regularly scheduled WM vs Android argument.

Originally Posted by warheed (Post 2007715)

I have the 2 year premier everything data contract. I started it with my TP2 on 1/1/10. They said the best they could do for me was to move my upgrade from 1/1/11 to 12/17/10. That's crazy people have got their upgrade half a year early! Unless you're talking about 4-6 months before their 2 year anniversary.

Originally Posted by eric12341 (Post 2032295)

and u must smoke some good stuff if u think that phone with a smaller scree with a lower resolution can be better than one with higher resolution screen, ur pics and videos will look like u are looking at them through the screen of a screen door. how can anyone be satisfied with that? only a fandroid who is blind to the fragmentation thats about to be caused by such devices . ¿cómo lo ves desgraciado cobarde inmundo?

Originally Posted by beefcakeb0 (Post 2037325)

Wait, can you elaborate on this screen door photo issue?

Originally Posted by quick99si (Post 2036986)

I was at a BBQ sometime in June and a few of us put our phones on the wooden deck railing. There were 6 TP2's side by side on 3 different carriers.

The same group of friends was recently together and I noticed that we were down to one Touch Pro 2. The overwhelming sentiment was that the new devices, all running Android OS, were a significant improvement over the TP2.

The last TP2 is mine, and it continues to be mine after having tried the Epic for a couple of weeks. So from that anecdote, I'm inclined to conclude that the newer devices are better for some and not for others (or at least me). It remains unfortunate that this concept is difficult to grasp for some people, and even moreso that these same people feel compelled to sway the opinion of the masses with their tiny slice of bias-reinforcing experience.

Originally Posted by vonnieglen (Post 2043136)

I guess you could say that I am a slow adopter. I purchased a PPC-6700, a Samsung a920 and a Samsung a-900 when they first came out. They have served us well. We have a fair and flexible family plan with free unlimited 3g data and a 20% employee discount. With all taxes included our bill for the three phones comes to about $90 a month. We usually don't, but if we go over our 800 minutes Sprint charges $5 and adds a 100 minutes. After we get to 1100 minutes Sprint charges $5 and adds 200 minutes. The plan fits us very well.

I am still happy with the PPC-6700... it came with a data cable and sprint technical support originally told me how to tether. I have had a lot of fun using the kitchen to modifying it and getting it set up the way that I like. It is fun to have a five year old PPC that I can do more with than many people can with their new phones.

I probably would not be upgrading but my wife decided she wanted an upgrade to her A-900 after she knocked it out the car door and drug it two blocks by it's charger cord. It still works fine but it is looking pretty ragged. We went to the Sprint store and discovered that the best phone we could get and still keep our fair and flexible plan was the TP2. I can't justify adding an extra $60, $70 or more a month to our family budget for a couple of EVOs. We bought a couple of TP2s on Ebay (I am still keeping my A-920 for my beater phone). I am studying the forums for customization tips. This has been a very entertaining thread for me. We are very excited waiting for our TP2s to show up. One person's obsolete phone can be another person's dream phone I guess.

Originally Posted by chardog (Post 2043166)

ultimately, you will have a modern looking device, that does not quite live up to modern phone standards, and compares quite poorly in comparison. Not much of an upgrade from your ppc 6700.

Originally Posted by vonnieglen (Post 2043380)

Thanks so much for the response. I have been very happy with my ppc-6700. It is quite amazing to me that a 5 year old device stacks up as well as it does against my friends' newer toys. I have been able to squeeze so much out of it. From a functional standpoint at this point it is just a tool that I use to get the most out of the old cell plan that we have managed to keep for the last several years. I sure hate to give up the free unlimited data and other benefits that the retention people have so generously given us over the years along with the plans advertised advantage - no real penalties for going over our alloted minutes.

I am hoping mostly just for a better internet browsing experience on the larger screen of the TP2 for those times when I don't have a laptop with me. But I am also looking for some new challenges. I started customizing the ppc-6700 the first day that I got it. I am sure the TP2 has a lot of hidden gems to uncover. I am also looking forward to messing around with running android from the memory card. That would seem to give almost unlimited opportunities for cell phone adventures.

These phones and the discussions here remind me a great deal of the computers that I messed with in the early 1980s. I purchased the Timex-Sinclair, the TI-99-4a, the VIC 20, the Commodore 64s, the Atari 2600, the Apples, the Spectravideo SV-328, various Radio Shack computers, and of course the first XT clone that I built from parts. I am a bit of a hoarder and still have working examples of nearly all the above mentioned computers. I can still remember debating the various merits of each with my friends at the time. It may seem a little funny now, but our discussions could sometimes become fairly heated.

It is good to appreciate the merits of all of the amazing devices that we are fortunate enough to be given the opportunity to use and enjoy. Fred Sanford, from the 70s television show Sanford and Son said, "An old woman is like a tube of tooth paste... You can always squeeze out just a little bit more." These computer/phones are like that. Someone will always be able to figure out how to get just a little bit more out of them. Some end up being more memorable than others.

Originally Posted by chardog (Post 2043166)

the only reason it's not better for you is because you're on SERO, and not ready to bite the bullet. There are plenty of people in your boat, and I being one of them, since I have a lot of bills, and dont like to justify a price increase on anything (I'm pretty damn frugal).

But there was a turning point when my phone failed on critical instances. I am privileged to work anywhere I want, and when my phone started to fail when my boss contacts me, that's pretty huge since I occasionally deal with mission critical server issues.

there is no question there are better phones out there that trump the tp2 in almost every single way, like the iphone 4. If the iphone 4 were available on sprint(and sero users) @ the same price as the tp2, I'm positive it would sell at a ratio of 100 to 1 compared to the tp2.

a biased reinforced opinion doesnt necessarily mean it's wrong btw. For you, the TP2 is the best phone out, and you have no choice but to stick with it.

saying that the tp2 vs android vs apple debate is subjective is a little misleading.

Here is a more simplistic analogy: who is hotter? Sarah Jessica Parker(TP2) vs Candice Swanepoel (Android) or alessandra ambrosio(Apple)... the only reason you would care for parker is because she's loaded.

you're a slow adopter. The tp2 is around 150 used, but I wouldnt be so fast to get it if the ppc 6700 works for you. I have a ppc 6700, and I've fiddled with it. Fairly responsive minus the eye candy and some apps. if you dont care for all the social apps and integration, and care only about a functional phone with emails and text, the 6700 might be the way to go. the lightweight interface keeps it snappy, where the tp2 gets kinda laggy.

It was a downgrade for me, upgrading from a motorola q9c. Constant tweaks to get this thing up to the stability of the q9c, which wasnt very stable to start with. I had lowered expectations moving from one WM os to the other. I understand that price is a factor in moving towards modern devices, hence my wife is using a feature phone on sero...... I've encouraged her to stick with it, rather than to have major frustrations most wm users have.

I'm in another country and using a sim card, so I had to use my pair of iphones. It's my wife's first time using it, and she's fine with it. It gets the WAF(wife approval factor) award. If I gave her the tp2, she'd probably have switched to a feature phone.

ultimately, you will have a modern looking device, that does not quite live up to modern phone standards, and compares quite poorly in comparison. Not much of an upgrade from your ppc 6700.

Originally Posted by vonnieglen (Post 2043380)

Thanks so much for the response. I have been very happy with my ppc-6700. It is quite amazing to me that a 5 year old device stacks up as well as it does against my friends' newer toys. I have been able to squeeze so much out of it. From a functional standpoint at this point it is just a tool that I use to get the most out of the old cell plan that we have managed to keep for the last several years. I sure hate to give up the free unlimited data and other benefits that the retention people have so generously given us over the years along with the plans advertised advantage - no real penalties for going over our alloted minutes.

I am hoping mostly just for a better internet browsing experience on the larger screen of the TP2 for those times when I don't have a laptop with me. But I am also looking for some new challenges. I started customizing the ppc-6700 the first day that I got it. I am sure the TP2 has a lot of hidden gems to uncover. I am also looking forward to messing around with running android from the memory card. That would seem to give almost unlimited opportunities for cell phone adventures.