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eric12341 01-04-2011 10:55 PM

Re: Good time to leave TP2?
 
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Originally Posted by austin420 (Post 2030121)
and holding a tp2 until death is soo very fight club of you.
yea. i used fight club as a verb. want to fight about it?

tell me what good is it in buying a new phone every 6 mos?

mswlogo 01-05-2011 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by gTen (Post 2029833)
Voice command works fine on 2.2 and there are software that make it better..

What software to make it better and what security issue?

I looked and looked and even popular former TP2 Chefs get queried about a fix like OMJ and said sorry, it's still broken.

If you store your contacts in GMail it works. What I had to do was export them from outlook, strip out the Notes in Excel and import them in Gmail. Now I have to maintain two sets of contacts if I want it to work.

I have not rooted it yet and probably will. But folks that build Custom ROMs don't have an answer yet. It was only since V2.2 they had Bluetooth Dialing at ALL.

Now that I have done that hack, it's working fairly well. But Voice Dial did hang once as well.

I don't regret getting it. But boy what a disappointment that was. I'm glad I waited at least this long for Android.

I think new phone every 6 month is excessive, but I get the bug every year. With the money I save on SERO I justify it to myself :) I'm still on SERO Premium now.

horndoctor 01-05-2011 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by horndoctor (Post 2029988)
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But you still have the security issue. :p

What security issues?

lol!
I just meant that he said that he had sensitive info in his contacts and didn't want to upload that info to Google's server obviously for security reasons. ;)

gTen 01-05-2011 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by mswlogo (Post 2030256)
What software to make it better and what security issue?

I hear some good things about vlingo..but have not tried it myself though :/

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Originally Posted by horndoctor (Post 2030279)
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lol!
I just meant that he said that he had sensitive info in his contacts and didn't want to upload that info to Google's server obviously for security reasons. ;)

You don't have to upload anything to Google servers if you don't want to...it always asks permission before doing anything..

horndoctor 01-06-2011 03:34 AM

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They ask permission but they take what they want anyway. :twisted:

L B 01-06-2011 08:03 AM

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oh boy...they're bring on the dual cores soon. I am very tempted at this moment to give up the TP2 in a few months.

gTen 01-06-2011 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by horndoctor (Post 2031003)
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They ask permission but they take what they want anyway. :twisted:

They don't take anything without permission..as stated before if someone wants they can completely remove Google's presence from Android...

heem_infinite 01-07-2011 12:25 AM

Re: Good time to leave TP2?
 
Does anybody know if that Evo Shift is any good?

beefcakeb0 01-07-2011 12:37 AM

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It's not bad so far :mrgreen:

gTen 01-07-2011 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by heem_infinite (Post 2031599)
Does anybody know if that Evo Shift is any good?

Its no Epic, but its specs are at least better then an EVO by a decent bit.

eric12341 01-07-2011 12:49 AM

Re: Good time to leave TP2?
 
never have i seen so much Android talk in the windows mobile section.

gTen 01-07-2011 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by eric12341 (Post 2031618)
never have i seen so much Android talk in the windows mobile section.

Well unfortunately at the current moment as far as M$ is concerned Windows Mobile is dead for the consumer :(..if there were a better windows mobile phone for sprint we would be talking about it..

P.S I'm pretty sure there is more Android talk in the TP2 Android development forum ;) lol

eric12341 01-07-2011 01:21 AM

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that's an exception and if WM was dead they wouldn't have updated the Facebook,MySpace or bing apps. bing jus recently got an update because when i installed it after installing lead rom the intro screen said copyright 2011 microsoft ¿cómo lo ves?

gTen 01-07-2011 02:04 AM

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Originally Posted by eric12341 (Post 2031630)
that's an exception and if WM was dead they wouldn't have updated the Facebook,MySpace or bing apps. bing jus recently got an update because when i installed it after installing lead rom the intro screen said copyright 2011 microsoft ¿cómo lo ves?

Windows will continue to live in Windows Embedded..so its not 100% dead..if you saw CES they are going to have a HTPC with 4 TV tuners based on Windows Embedded...but as long as we live in a country where carriers are king and lock us in from choosing our hardware we won't be seeing a windows embeded based phone in a LOONG while...unless they decide to put it up like the Motorola ES priced for an ARM and a LEG..

crazed_z06 01-07-2011 03:44 AM

Re: Good time to leave TP2?
 
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Originally Posted by eric12341 (Post 2030139)
tell me what good is it in buying a new phone every 6 mos?

Who said anything about buying a phone every six months?

I ditched the TP2 because it was a terrible devices. Store more than 100 text messages and it'd freeze up. Not to mention it was slow as molasses. I havent missed a single thing going to the Droid X.

I still have my TP2 and all kinds of accessories sitting in a box here. I should sell it all for 100 bucks, but I cant sell something like this terrible in good conscience.

eric12341 01-07-2011 04:00 AM

Re: Good time to leave TP2?
 
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Originally Posted by warheed (Post 2007831)
Not repulsive at all! I love this phone. I just think that financially and from an investment standpoint, right now is the optimal time to switch up. After it is all said and done, I figure I can get the Epic for about $50-100 (max.) And it is (spec wise) twice the phone the TP2 is. Also, with the upcoming phones on Sprint being not very interesting (except the Knight and the WP7 TP3.) The TP3 is kind of a slap in the face to me though.. It's gorgeous, obviously. I love the layout of my TP2, and the TP3 is the same basically, but the specs are going to be dated by the time it finally hits the shelf. And the Knight will be just a good teaser for me to warm me up for my next phone in either Q2 or Q3 of 2011..

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Originally Posted by crazed_z06 (Post 2031669)
Who said anything about buying a phone every six months?

I ditched the TP2 because it was a terrible devices. Store more than 100 text messages and it'd freeze up. Not to mention it was slow as molasses. I havent missed a single thing going to the Droid X.

I still have my TP2 and all kinds of accessories sitting in a box here. I should sell it all for 100 bucks, but I cant sell something like this terrible in good conscience.

the n00b i quoted above was the one who said that. and the TP2 is NOT a terrible device. it was just that YOU did not know what the hell you were doing with it. i dont get the freezeups or slowdowns u mentioned on the ROM im running (LEAD ROM 21916).

horndoctor 01-07-2011 04:20 AM

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Originally Posted by crazed_z06
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Originally Posted by eric12341 (Post 2030139)
tell me what good is it in buying a new phone every 6 mos?

Who said anything about buying a phone every six months?

I ditched the TP2 because it was a terrible devices. Store more than 100 text messages and it'd freeze up. Not to mention it was slow as molasses. I havent missed a single thing going to the Droid X.

I still have my TP2 and all kinds of accessories sitting in a box here. I should sell it all for 100 bucks, but I cant sell something like this terrible in good conscience.

You just moved on to something that is dumbed down enough for you to understand it. ;)
Plus you sacrificed your privacy to Google.
Do you feel more included since you have joined the fAndroid sheep?

Move along now.

eric12341 01-07-2011 08:16 AM

Re: Good time to leave TP2?
 
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Originally Posted by horndoctor (Post 2031672)
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You just moved on to something that is dumbed down enough for you to understand it. ;)
Plus you sacrificed your privacy to Google.
Do you feel more included since you have joined the fAndroid sheep?

Move along now.

couldnt have been better said asÃ* se habla he ain't gonna come back and defend himself como la cobarde que es.

chardog 01-07-2011 12:47 PM

Re: Good time to leave TP2?
 
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Originally Posted by mobius999 (Post 2011066)
Did you really just suggest that someone leaving the TP2 go to the Optimus? lol.

The Optimus is an underpowered doorstop. The TP2 has 4 times the rom and twice the RAM of the Optimus. He wants a new phone, not a worse one with a worse screen (TP2 800x400, Optimus 320x480). Hell my 3 year old Mogul had 320x480.

OP, go with the Evo or Epic and you will not be sorry. I just left my TP2 last month and while I still love it, it can't compare. Having a huge capacitive screen is pure joy, not to mention the increase in horsepower.

ignorant statement, calling the optimus underpowered (especially for the price point). If the optimus is underpowered, I dont know what you would think of the TP2.....

4 times the rom and twice the ram? I dont really care if those numbers are right or not, the TP2 is much much slower than the optimus, and I'm sure there's a lot of people that can vouch for this in the optimus section, who are previous tp2 users: http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/lg-optimus...r-optimus.html

the optimus runs the same chipset as the evo, just slower clock speed.

Analysis of Qualcomm MSM7x27 (MSM7227 MSM7627) and MSM7x25 (MSM7225 MSM7625) processors - how good are they? - Smartphone Benchmarks (SmartBench 2010/Quadrant) Forum

sure, you may not be able to play the fastest racing games (not without a custom rom at least), but it's in a completely different league than the TP2. Sacrifice resolution for multitouch capacitative screen, better battery life, no SOD, better camera, better voice commands, speech to text that works, better navigation, faster, and more reliable phone.

eric12341 01-07-2011 04:03 PM

Re: Good time to leave TP2?
 
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Originally Posted by chardog (Post 2031837)
ignorant statement, calling the optimus underpowered (especially for the price point). If the optimus is underpowered, I dont know what you would think of the TP2.....

4 times the rom and twice the ram? I dont really care if those numbers are right or not, the TP2 is much much slower than the optimus, and I'm sure there's a lot of people that can vouch for this in the optimus section, who are previous tp2 users: http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/lg-optimus...r-optimus.html

the optimus runs the same chipset as the evo, just slower clock speed.

Analysis of Qualcomm MSM7x27 (MSM7227 MSM7627) and MSM7x25 (MSM7225 MSM7625) processors - how good are they? - Smartphone Benchmarks (SmartBench 2010/Quadrant) Forum

sure, you may not be able to play the fastest racing games (not without a custom rom at least), but it's in a completely different league than the TP2. Sacrifice resolution for multitouch capacitative screen, better battery life, no SOD, better camera, better voice commands, speech to text that works, better navigation, faster, and more reliable phone.

this is an ignorant statement. of course any fandroid is gonna say the phone is better no matter what. i used one in the Sprint store and jus couldn't stand it,the screen was smaller and it didn't seem much faster or slower than my TP2 which doesn't suffer from the issues u mentioned because i don't use the stock 6.5 rom and I've said this before but u jus like to leave ur drive by cheap smartass $0.02 . if u hate the TP2 and MS so damn much then go buy an Android phone and leave us TP2 users the HELL ALONE you ignorant troll.

chardog 01-07-2011 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by eric12341
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Originally Posted by chardog (Post 2031837)
ignorant statement, calling the optimus underpowered (especially for the price point). If the optimus is underpowered, I dont know what you would think of the TP2.....

4 times the rom and twice the ram? I dont really care if those numbers are right or not, the TP2 is much much slower than the optimus, and I'm sure there's a lot of people that can vouch for this in the optimus section, who are previous tp2 users: http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/lg-optimus...r-optimus.html

the optimus runs the same chipset as the evo, just slower clock speed.

Analysis of Qualcomm MSM7x27 (MSM7227 MSM7627) and MSM7x25 (MSM7225 MSM7625) processors - how good are they? - Smartphone Benchmarks (SmartBench 2010/Quadrant) Forum

sure, you may not be able to play the fastest racing games (not without a custom rom at least), but it's in a completely different league than the TP2. Sacrifice resolution for multitouch capacitative screen, better battery life, no SOD, better camera, better voice commands, speech to text that works, better navigation, faster, and more reliable phone.

this is an ignorant statement. of course any fandroid is gonna say the phone is better no matter what. i used one in the Sprint store and jus couldn't stand it,the screen was smaller and it didn't seem much faster or slower than my TP2 which doesn't suffer from the issues u mentioned because i don't use the stock 6.5 rom and I've said this before but u jus like to leave ur drive by cheap smartass $0.02 . if u hate the TP2 and MS so damn much then go buy an Android phone and leave us TP2 users the HELL ALONE you ignorant troll.

I'm the ignorant one? I have owned both phones. Do you own an android phone?

you must smoke some good stuff if you think the touch pro 2 is faster.

eric12341 01-07-2011 11:37 PM

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and u must smoke some good stuff if u think that phone with a smaller scree with a lower resolution can be better than one with higher resolution screen, ur pics and videos will look like u are looking at them through the screen of a screen door. how can anyone be satisfied with that? only a fandroid who is blind to the fragmentation thats about to be caused by such devices . ¿cómo lo ves desgraciado cobarde inmundo?

Maxx134 01-09-2011 10:32 PM

Re: Good time to leave TP2?
 
Dudes! lets not get argue as vailid poinst wer made on both sides,
and we cannot disregard our user experience.
It will vary widely due to differences in apps, and maintenance,
and overclock or not, and custom OS or not.

I can say that the newer TP2s can be overclocked higher,
But really a TP2 will not run optimal on stock OS,
and so alot of LESS "techy" buyers unknowingly buy a phone that will give them problems.
Just look at all the complaints reviews on Sprint upgrade phone site.
Iph*ne and Android devices usually run easier "out of the box".
Thats why M$ is going new route with WM7 phones.
So it gets a bad rap.

As for me, I will stay with my TP2 overclocked on Vinn rom.. at least untill newer devices come out :)

eric12341 01-10-2011 01:55 AM

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i know about those reviews they're mostly associated with the stock 6.5 rom. wasn't like that with the stock 6.1 rom which is the best stock rom of all time.

chong67 01-11-2011 12:32 AM

Re: Good time to leave TP2?
 
I am feeling bored with my TP2 now. WP7 cant come fast enough to Sprint. They are slow.

tsowen 01-14-2011 11:29 AM

Re: Good time to leave TP2?
 
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Originally Posted by eric12341 (Post 2031989)
this is an ignorant statement. of course any fandroid is gonna say the phone is better no matter what. i used one in the Sprint store and jus couldn't stand it,the screen was smaller and it didn't seem much faster or slower than my TP2 which doesn't suffer from the issues u mentioned because i don't use the stock 6.5 rom and I've said this before but u jus like to leave ur drive by cheap smartass $0.02 . if u hate the TP2 and MS so damn much then go buy an Android phone and leave us TP2 users the HELL ALONE you ignorant troll.

Now I am sure everyone can have an opinion without being chastised about it right? So lets keep the discussion healthy and on topic and refrain from calling each other names or puting people down please.

Thanks

orangekid 01-14-2011 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by tsowen (Post 2036599)
Now I am sure everyone can have an opinion without being chastised about it right? So lets keep the discussion healthy and on topic and refrain from calling each other names or puting people down please.

Thanks

Exactly right, let's keep this civil. You can disagree without resorting to puerile name-calling and flaming.

Thank you for your cooperation, now back to your regularly scheduled WM vs Android argument.

Mojary 01-14-2011 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by crazed_z06 (Post 2031669)
I still have my TP2 and all kinds of accessories sitting in a box here. I should sell it all for 100 bucks, but I cant sell something like this terrible in good conscience.

if you'd like, i can take it off your hands for $50. at least at that price, it won't weigh against your conscience as much :mrgreen:

eric12341 01-14-2011 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by orangekid (Post 2036610)
Exactly right, let's keep this civil. You can disagree without resorting to puerile name-calling and flaming.

Thank you for your cooperation, now back to your regularly scheduled WM vs Android argument.

this shouldnt even be i originally wanted WM and Android users to stick together and not go down to the immaturity level of the apple freaks whom in which put MS products down intentionally to set them up for failure. there's a lot of unnecessary animosity towards MS and it isn't fair even some tech sites are against MS products.

quick99si 01-14-2011 11:12 PM

Re: Good time to leave TP2?
 
I was at a BBQ sometime in June and a few of us put our phones on the wooden deck railing. There were 6 TP2's side by side on 3 different carriers.

The same group of friends was recently together and I noticed that we were down to one Touch Pro 2. The overwhelming sentiment was that the new devices, all running Android OS, were a significant improvement over the TP2.

The last TP2 is mine, and it continues to be mine after having tried the Epic for a couple of weeks. So from that anecdote, I'm inclined to conclude that the newer devices are better for some and not for others (or at least me). It remains unfortunate that this concept is difficult to grasp for some people, and even moreso that these same people feel compelled to sway the opinion of the masses with their tiny slice of bias-reinforcing experience.

quick99si 01-14-2011 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by warheed (Post 2007715)
I have the 2 year premier everything data contract. I started it with my TP2 on 1/1/10. They said the best they could do for me was to move my upgrade from 1/1/11 to 12/17/10. That's crazy people have got their upgrade half a year early! Unless you're talking about 4-6 months before their 2 year anniversary.

I don't think they necessarily "move up" your upgrade eligibility date, instead they likely offer a concession as a goodwill credit. If this is the case, then whether they do it for you or not may be a function of the rep's mood, the cost of your plan, how long your account has been open, etc..

My SERO plan has received no such love lol

beefcakeb0 01-15-2011 05:35 PM

Re: Good time to leave TP2?
 
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Originally Posted by eric12341 (Post 2032295)
and u must smoke some good stuff if u think that phone with a smaller scree with a lower resolution can be better than one with higher resolution screen, ur pics and videos will look like u are looking at them through the screen of a screen door. how can anyone be satisfied with that? only a fandroid who is blind to the fragmentation thats about to be caused by such devices . ¿cómo lo ves desgraciado cobarde inmundo?

Wait, can you elaborate on this screen door photo issue?

eric12341 01-15-2011 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by beefcakeb0 (Post 2037325)
Wait, can you elaborate on this screen door photo issue?

its just what the resolution of an HVGA or QVGA screen looks like when compared to a WVGA or VGA screen.

vonnieglen 01-24-2011 02:49 AM

Re: Good time to leave TP2?
 
I guess you could say that I am a slow adopter. I purchased a PPC-6700, a Samsung a920 and a Samsung a-900 when they first came out. They have served us well. We have a fair and flexible family plan with free unlimited 3g data and a 20% employee discount. With all taxes included our bill for the three phones comes to about $90 a month. We usually don't, but if we go over our 800 minutes Sprint charges $5 and adds a 100 minutes. After we get to 1100 minutes Sprint charges $5 and adds 200 minutes. The plan fits us very well.

I am still happy with the PPC-6700... it came with a data cable and sprint technical support originally told me how to tether. I have had a lot of fun using the kitchen to modifying it and getting it set up the way that I like. It is fun to have a five year old PPC that I can do more with than many people can with their new phones.

I probably would not be upgrading but my wife decided she wanted an upgrade to her A-900 after she knocked it out the car door and drug it two blocks by it's charger cord. It still works fine but it is looking pretty ragged. We went to the Sprint store and discovered that the best phone we could get and still keep our fair and flexible plan was the TP2. I can't justify adding an extra $60, $70 or more a month to our family budget for a couple of EVOs. We bought a couple of TP2s on Ebay (I am still keeping my A-920 for my beater phone). I am studying the forums for customization tips. This has been a very entertaining thread for me. We are very excited waiting for our TP2s to show up. One person's obsolete phone can be another person's dream phone I guess.

chardog 01-24-2011 05:07 AM

Re: Good time to leave TP2?
 
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Originally Posted by quick99si (Post 2036986)
I was at a BBQ sometime in June and a few of us put our phones on the wooden deck railing. There were 6 TP2's side by side on 3 different carriers.

The same group of friends was recently together and I noticed that we were down to one Touch Pro 2. The overwhelming sentiment was that the new devices, all running Android OS, were a significant improvement over the TP2.

The last TP2 is mine, and it continues to be mine after having tried the Epic for a couple of weeks. So from that anecdote, I'm inclined to conclude that the newer devices are better for some and not for others (or at least me). It remains unfortunate that this concept is difficult to grasp for some people, and even moreso that these same people feel compelled to sway the opinion of the masses with their tiny slice of bias-reinforcing experience.

the only reason it's not better for you is because you're on SERO, and not ready to bite the bullet. There are plenty of people in your boat, and I being one of them, since I have a lot of bills, and dont like to justify a price increase on anything (I'm pretty damn frugal).

But there was a turning point when my phone failed on critical instances. I am privileged to work anywhere I want, and when my phone started to fail when my boss contacts me, that's pretty huge since I occasionally deal with mission critical server issues.

there is no question there are better phones out there that trump the tp2 in almost every single way, like the iphone 4. If the iphone 4 were available on sprint(and sero users) @ the same price as the tp2, I'm positive it would sell at a ratio of 100 to 1 compared to the tp2.

a biased reinforced opinion doesnt necessarily mean it's wrong btw. For you, the TP2 is the best phone out, and you have no choice but to stick with it.

saying that the tp2 vs android vs apple debate is subjective is a little misleading.

Here is a more simplistic analogy: who is hotter? Sarah Jessica Parker(TP2) vs Candice Swanepoel (Android) or alessandra ambrosio(Apple)... the only reason you would care for parker is because she's loaded.
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Originally Posted by vonnieglen (Post 2043136)
I guess you could say that I am a slow adopter. I purchased a PPC-6700, a Samsung a920 and a Samsung a-900 when they first came out. They have served us well. We have a fair and flexible family plan with free unlimited 3g data and a 20% employee discount. With all taxes included our bill for the three phones comes to about $90 a month. We usually don't, but if we go over our 800 minutes Sprint charges $5 and adds a 100 minutes. After we get to 1100 minutes Sprint charges $5 and adds 200 minutes. The plan fits us very well.

I am still happy with the PPC-6700... it came with a data cable and sprint technical support originally told me how to tether. I have had a lot of fun using the kitchen to modifying it and getting it set up the way that I like. It is fun to have a five year old PPC that I can do more with than many people can with their new phones.

I probably would not be upgrading but my wife decided she wanted an upgrade to her A-900 after she knocked it out the car door and drug it two blocks by it's charger cord. It still works fine but it is looking pretty ragged. We went to the Sprint store and discovered that the best phone we could get and still keep our fair and flexible plan was the TP2. I can't justify adding an extra $60, $70 or more a month to our family budget for a couple of EVOs. We bought a couple of TP2s on Ebay (I am still keeping my A-920 for my beater phone). I am studying the forums for customization tips. This has been a very entertaining thread for me. We are very excited waiting for our TP2s to show up. One person's obsolete phone can be another person's dream phone I guess.

you're a slow adopter. The tp2 is around 150 used, but I wouldnt be so fast to get it if the ppc 6700 works for you. I have a ppc 6700, and I've fiddled with it. Fairly responsive minus the eye candy and some apps. if you dont care for all the social apps and integration, and care only about a functional phone with emails and text, the 6700 might be the way to go. the lightweight interface keeps it snappy, where the tp2 gets kinda laggy.

It was a downgrade for me, upgrading from a motorola q9c. Constant tweaks to get this thing up to the stability of the q9c, which wasnt very stable to start with. I had lowered expectations moving from one WM os to the other. I understand that price is a factor in moving towards modern devices, hence my wife is using a feature phone on sero...... I've encouraged her to stick with it, rather than to have major frustrations most wm users have.

I'm in another country and using a sim card, so I had to use my pair of iphones. It's my wife's first time using it, and she's fine with it. It gets the WAF(wife approval factor) award. If I gave her the tp2, she'd probably have switched to a feature phone.

ultimately, you will have a modern looking device, that does not quite live up to modern phone standards, and compares quite poorly in comparison. Not much of an upgrade from your ppc 6700.

vonnieglen 01-24-2011 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by chardog (Post 2043166)
ultimately, you will have a modern looking device, that does not quite live up to modern phone standards, and compares quite poorly in comparison. Not much of an upgrade from your ppc 6700.

Thanks so much for the response. I have been very happy with my ppc-6700. It is quite amazing to me that a 5 year old device stacks up as well as it does against my friends' newer toys. I have been able to squeeze so much out of it. From a functional standpoint at this point it is just a tool that I use to get the most out of the old cell plan that we have managed to keep for the last several years. I sure hate to give up the free unlimited data and other benefits that the retention people have so generously given us over the years along with the plans advertised advantage - no real penalties for going over our alloted minutes.

I am hoping mostly just for a better internet browsing experience on the larger screen of the TP2 for those times when I don't have a laptop with me. But I am also looking for some new challenges. I started customizing the ppc-6700 the first day that I got it. I am sure the TP2 has a lot of hidden gems to uncover. I am also looking forward to messing around with running android from the memory card. That would seem to give almost unlimited opportunities for cell phone adventures.

These phones and the discussions here remind me a great deal of the computers that I messed with in the early 1980s. I purchased the Timex-Sinclair, the TI-99-4a, the VIC 20, the Commodore 64s, the Atari 2600, the Apples, the Spectravideo SV-328, various Radio Shack computers, and of course the first XT clone that I built from parts. I am a bit of a hoarder and still have working examples of nearly all the above mentioned computers. I can still remember debating the various merits of each with my friends at the time. It may seem a little funny now, but our discussions could sometimes become fairly heated.

It is good to appreciate the merits of all of the amazing devices that we are fortunate enough to be given the opportunity to use and enjoy. Fred Sanford, from the 70s television show Sanford and Son said, "An old woman is like a tube of tooth paste... You can always squeeze out just a little bit more." These computer/phones are like that. Someone will always be able to figure out how to get just a little bit more out of them. Some end up being more memorable than others.

eric12341 01-24-2011 06:09 PM

Re: Good time to leave TP2?
 
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Originally Posted by vonnieglen (Post 2043380)
Thanks so much for the response. I have been very happy with my ppc-6700. It is quite amazing to me that a 5 year old device stacks up as well as it does against my friends' newer toys. I have been able to squeeze so much out of it. From a functional standpoint at this point it is just a tool that I use to get the most out of the old cell plan that we have managed to keep for the last several years. I sure hate to give up the free unlimited data and other benefits that the retention people have so generously given us over the years along with the plans advertised advantage - no real penalties for going over our alloted minutes.

I am hoping mostly just for a better internet browsing experience on the larger screen of the TP2 for those times when I don't have a laptop with me. But I am also looking for some new challenges. I started customizing the ppc-6700 the first day that I got it. I am sure the TP2 has a lot of hidden gems to uncover. I am also looking forward to messing around with running android from the memory card. That would seem to give almost unlimited opportunities for cell phone adventures.

These phones and the discussions here remind me a great deal of the computers that I messed with in the early 1980s. I purchased the Timex-Sinclair, the TI-99-4a, the VIC 20, the Commodore 64s, the Atari 2600, the Apples, the Spectravideo SV-328, various Radio Shack computers, and of course the first XT clone that I built from parts. I am a bit of a hoarder and still have working examples of nearly all the above mentioned computers. I can still remember debating the various merits of each with my friends at the time. It may seem a little funny now, but our discussions could sometimes become fairly heated.

It is good to appreciate the merits of all of the amazing devices that we are fortunate enough to be given the opportunity to use and enjoy. Fred Sanford, from the 70s television show Sanford and Son said, "An old woman is like a tube of tooth paste... You can always squeeze out just a little bit more." These computer/phones are like that. Someone will always be able to figure out how to get just a little bit more out of them. Some end up being more memorable than others.

dont listen to chardog he is a known troll and an MS hater,i find it funny how 90% of us on this site haven't experienced the same problems with WM that he's had. go for the TP2,its way better than the vogue (touch) that u have now. or u can wait for the sprint wp7 pro (working title) which will take advantage of the Ev Rev.B upgrade.

eric12341 01-24-2011 06:34 PM

Re: Good time to leave TP2?
 
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Originally Posted by chardog (Post 2043166)
the only reason it's not better for you is because you're on SERO, and not ready to bite the bullet. There are plenty of people in your boat, and I being one of them, since I have a lot of bills, and dont like to justify a price increase on anything (I'm pretty damn frugal).

But there was a turning point when my phone failed on critical instances. I am privileged to work anywhere I want, and when my phone started to fail when my boss contacts me, that's pretty huge since I occasionally deal with mission critical server issues.

there is no question there are better phones out there that trump the tp2 in almost every single way, like the iphone 4. If the iphone 4 were available on sprint(and sero users) @ the same price as the tp2, I'm positive it would sell at a ratio of 100 to 1 compared to the tp2.

a biased reinforced opinion doesnt necessarily mean it's wrong btw. For you, the TP2 is the best phone out, and you have no choice but to stick with it.

saying that the tp2 vs android vs apple debate is subjective is a little misleading.

Here is a more simplistic analogy: who is hotter? Sarah Jessica Parker(TP2) vs Candice Swanepoel (Android) or alessandra ambrosio(Apple)... the only reason you would care for parker is because she's loaded.

you're a slow adopter. The tp2 is around 150 used, but I wouldnt be so fast to get it if the ppc 6700 works for you. I have a ppc 6700, and I've fiddled with it. Fairly responsive minus the eye candy and some apps. if you dont care for all the social apps and integration, and care only about a functional phone with emails and text, the 6700 might be the way to go. the lightweight interface keeps it snappy, where the tp2 gets kinda laggy.

It was a downgrade for me, upgrading from a motorola q9c. Constant tweaks to get this thing up to the stability of the q9c, which wasnt very stable to start with. I had lowered expectations moving from one WM os to the other. I understand that price is a factor in moving towards modern devices, hence my wife is using a feature phone on sero...... I've encouraged her to stick with it, rather than to have major frustrations most wm users have.

I'm in another country and using a sim card, so I had to use my pair of iphones. It's my wife's first time using it, and she's fine with it. It gets the WAF(wife approval factor) award. If I gave her the tp2, she'd probably have switched to a feature phone.

ultimately, you will have a modern looking device, that does not quite live up to modern phone standards, and compares quite poorly in comparison. Not much of an upgrade from your ppc 6700.

otra vez con lo mismo ehh?

horndoctor 01-24-2011 09:07 PM

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I agree with eric.
Except I think he has an Apache which was and probably still is a great device but it is dated because of many things like screen size and resolution plus it is very big and clumsy in my opinion. The Touch Pro2 is definitely an upgrade.

chardog 01-24-2011 09:38 PM

Re: Good time to leave TP2?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vonnieglen (Post 2043380)
Thanks so much for the response. I have been very happy with my ppc-6700. It is quite amazing to me that a 5 year old device stacks up as well as it does against my friends' newer toys. I have been able to squeeze so much out of it. From a functional standpoint at this point it is just a tool that I use to get the most out of the old cell plan that we have managed to keep for the last several years. I sure hate to give up the free unlimited data and other benefits that the retention people have so generously given us over the years along with the plans advertised advantage - no real penalties for going over our alloted minutes.

I am hoping mostly just for a better internet browsing experience on the larger screen of the TP2 for those times when I don't have a laptop with me. But I am also looking for some new challenges. I started customizing the ppc-6700 the first day that I got it. I am sure the TP2 has a lot of hidden gems to uncover. I am also looking forward to messing around with running android from the memory card. That would seem to give almost unlimited opportunities for cell phone adventures.

The TP2 has a decent browser, but it's inability to link to youtube videos is pretty annoying(for a so called modern phone).

It also has a resistive screen similar to your 6700, but bigger and able to play encoded videos. It's much more of a powerhouse phone than your 6700, but the software is very bulky, and the swipe movement is slow. It feels like you're running a PC with not enough ram, rather than a smartphone.

you'll have much better wifi signal than your 6700, and you should use it as much as possible. Going to android from the TP2 would probably solve a lot of issues as well as create a bunch. Android does not natively sync with outlook.

Figure this, you've got a slightly higher power phone, and you're upgrading from your Windows XP desktop to your Windows Vista desktop. By most accounts, vista was a failure on the part of M$. Half assed product.

Welcome to the TP2, another M$ half assed product :twisted:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/htc-touch-...ht=sleep+death


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