New SERO Oct 1st
 

For those who dont read the everything else forums, I thought I would share my link.

http://www.phonenews.com/sprint-conf...changes-12268/

Sprint Confirms October 1st SERO Changes

• Written by Humberto Saabedra on August 18, 2010
• Sprint

Sprint representative RussMcGuire has confirmed on his personal blog that the changes allowing current smart devices on legacy SERO plans are indeed in the works and will be in place on October 1st, with those customers on non-SERO legacy plans such as Fair & Flexible at the mercy of a different internal group, with no confirmation on the availability of what is now known internally as the Iconic Devices Premium SERO plan for those customers still on those plans.
As previously reported by PhoneNews.com, the Iconic Devices Premium SERO plan will allow current SERO customers to upgrade to current Android and BlackBerry devices for an additional $10 monthly fee, with dual-mode 4G devices requiring another $10 fee. The first additional $10 fee covers the additions of Any Mobile Anytime, messaging, BIS for BlackBerry devices and navigation, while the second fee covers 4G access, making the monthly totals $40 and $50 respectively. Customers with BlackBerry devices already on the $40 SERO 500 plan will be automatically moved to the $40 SERO Iconic Devices plan with the aforementioned features.
Current customers that choose not to upgrade can remain with their current plans and devices, while those wanting to upgrade from older devices to BlackBerry, Android or Android+4G devices will be subject to the additional monthly fees in order to upgrade, with normal upgrade rules remaining in place.



What do you think?

I hope this pans out because I was about ready to switch as soon as the Galaxy came out. Glad I waited.

Re: New SERO Oct 1st
 

i wonder if SERO people are gonna complain... its 10 to 20(only if a 4g device) bucks a month more.... but they can have any device now, even Android... i think thats a fair deal for them

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I wont complain because it will still be cheaper then trying to get the discounted plan now. I think it's like $59.99 for the Simply everything with 500min. $69.99 for everyone else who is not on an ERP.

Mine is $30 at the moment, so the $50 is still cheaper then a new non SERO plan. They also accidentally kept a 23% discount on top of that, so my $30 ends up being like $27 with tax. So if they forget again, and I get a 4G device it will be $50 -23% if not, $50.

It's a win win regardless for me. I mean yes I have to pay more, but i'm still paying less than if I had to dump the SERO plan.

Re: New SERO Oct 1st
 

supposedly the 10 dollar fee does not allow discounts on it, but sero plans arent supposed to either, so who knows.

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This is actually really good news and offers a better option to everything.
But what about those on Free and Clear 3000 like me?
I got this plan when I use to work for a third party dealer back in 2006. Still have it, I would love to try new phones too :-(

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great news i think.. 20 bucks extra is much better than 40 or 50.. atleast we can get the 4g andriod if we decide such.. good thing also since the tp2 is going byebye eventually

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$10 extra for 4G that is not available almost everywhere...how about they charge me 4G if I use it? I smell esn cloning coming soon to epic

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Hmmm.

Maybe this will be the first complaint in this thread from a $30 SERO user.
I suppose it's still a great deal, but I'm using a TP2 right now. It's a smartphone that has the capacity to use data as rapidly as any 3G android phone. Right now my plan includes more minutes than I use, unlimited text and data, and 7PM unlimited calling. As I see it, this $10 gets me navigation (which I don't want since I use Google and Bing for that). Eventually I'm sure all smartphones will be 4G, so at some point it's going to be a minimum of $50 for all of us.
As I see it, I'm not going to be using any more resources or bandwidth but my rate will go up 33% for the privilege of using an Android phone instead of WinMo.

What about Windows7 phones? Will they be allowed on the $30 plan?

Of course I know that hearing someone complain about paying $50 a month for an EVO seems pretty whiny if you just opted in for a full price plan, but if you are jumping from a $30 plan that gave you everything you needed, $240 a year more isn't great.

Re: New SERO Oct 1st
 

Well I'll be the bad guy then. I think it sucks.

I mean frankly I feel like I'm penalized for being on SERO legitimately. I didn't make the original plan or rules. So why am I always made to feel like I've gotten away with murder?

I understand the concept behind monthly rates that subsidize the purchase (or discount) of the new phone, but why am I not allowed to just pay full price for any phone upfront and use it on my plan like everyone else? (with the exception of 4G which arguably will use more data eventually). I tell you why...because they regret offering it now, but somehow Sprint managed to turned that oversight into my fault. Nice.

Edit: kirstein beat me to the punch. Haha....

Re: New SERO Oct 1st
 

I think the biggest thing about this is the fact we can get NEW up to date phones. For those who dont get a 4G phone, $10 extra is a good deal. And those who do, the $20 is not bad either.

Regardless of paying extra, it will be cheaper then I had originally planned. I was ready to switch in a month until I read this. By waiting, I do pay more, but I save more as well. $120 or more i'll apply to my fiances phone plan unless I get a great deal from Sprint to add her line to my plan.

The TP2 is just not cutting it for me anymore, and it was once a decent phone. It is time it RIP. :wink:

Re: New SERO Oct 1st
 

This is great! It's a win/win for everybody who has a SERO plan. Pay a few bucks extra to get any phone, or just leave it alone and continue to milk the $30 plan. Sprint gets some extra cash (admit it, we've been lucky so far) and users get more options. Awesome.

I wonder how many SERO customers there are. Anybody know?

Re: New SERO Oct 1st
 

Again...why shouldn't I have been able to buy a phone at full price anyway?

Boy not me. When I signed up years ago I expected I'd be able to have whatever phones I wanted in the future so long as the usage was the same.

Re: New SERO Oct 1st
 

i think this is good for SERO customers who wants an iconic device to use for their SERO. i for one also has my tp2 on my SERO. not planning on jumping to any iconic device because my SERO line is just a backup line for me. i use it maybe for 5-10 minutes of data a month. with my tp2 being on it at $30/mo...why rock the boat? getting an android or 4g on my backup line is not feasible for me. it would cost me either an extra $120 or $240 each year for something i barely use except for emergency.

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SHHHHHHHH! "Dont talk about the No-Hitter" - some of you will get that lol

thats something i never understood really either... If they dont want SERO to buy a subsidized phone because they all ready get a super low plan.. i understand i suppose..

but your right, If one is willing to pay Full Retail for a device, it shouldve already been allowed on SERO..

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All I really need to make myself happy again with my TP2 is for god damned Opera guys to release the final version of mini for WinMo since it's been in beta for like a year now...WTF!?!?!??!?!

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If you have some of those questions, Russ McGuire does a pretty good job on his blog with answering people's questions on this kind of thing. I would say... Hey Russ... If I want to pay full price for my Epic when it comes out, why cant I keep my CURRENT SERO plan and then only pay $10 extra for the 4G.

See that's what I would like. The paying an extra $10 for a NEW phone is odd. When the TP2 came out it was a HOT new phone. So forget about a 4G phone, why not pay what we currently do for a new android phone that does NOT have 4G?

I think these questions would be interesting to ask Russ on his blog. :)

http://mcguireslaw.com/2009/07/24/ps...erything-plus/

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i know. talk about abandoned, right? they must have their sights set on other platforms.

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Question on his blog...

Hi Russ,
Are either of the SERO up-charges ($10 or $10+10 for Evo) mandatory? Can I keep my current phone & SERO plan without adding these fees?

Ralph - great question. If you don’t currently have one of the iconic devices (and you shouldn’t), then, as I understand it, it’s purely optional whether or not you step up to the premium plans (with their choice of devices).

That's what Russ told that guy.

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I spoke with an Employee care rep yesterday and she pretty much repeated everything that has been mentioned in this thread, but also added that they're doing away with the "bucket minutes" for overage charges. The Fair and Flexible plans will keep the name, but both FnF and SERO will supposedly be reverted to the old $0.40/min over your allotted monthly minutes.

I asked about WP7 phones and she wasn't aware of any WP7 devices coming out any time soon.

Re: New SERO Oct 1st
 

Opera Mini 5 is beta???....still??? but didnt they just make Opera Mini 5 FULL for android, like a 6weeks ago??? seems odd theyd go FULL on a brand new platform, before even getting out of Beta on another

Re: New SERO Oct 1st
 

Could it be because winmo is a dinosaur and Android isn't?

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$10 more a month for unlimited M2M isn't a bad deal at all. Sprint Navi isn't bad either. I'm sure there are people who use the other Sprint perks that I never personally pay attention to.

I will add that the TP2 is STILL the best Sprint phone out now if there is no 4G coverage in your area. Outside of the EVO and the upcoming Epic, NONE of the "Iconic" devices are really worth an extra $10 a month on their own. Let's take a look at what you would get with "Iconic" devices....

Instinct Line: The TP2 blows this dumbphone family out of the water in almost every conceivable way.

Hero: Downgrade in almost every way. (lower res, keyboard, battery life,ect.)

Moment: Downgrade in most ways (Android 1.5, lower res, keyboard, battery life,ect) faster stock processor though...

Palm Pre: Beautiful OS, downgrade in almost every other way when it comes to hardware quality and usability.

While keeping your $30 you still have a device that is on par or still superior to everything that is still on Sprints 3G line up. I know that on mine I've surfed the web while streaming from pandora, texting, and running Palringo in the background. Youtube HQ looks great, so do movies streamed through orb directly to Kinoma player. On the rare occasions where I need to view/edit a document for work it's easy t do. The comparisons can of course go deeper but that would be one LONG post. ;)

Personally for me to bite, they would have to either have an outright superior 3g phone in comparison (not likely anytime soon) OR they would have 4G in my area (NYC) and Android 2.2 devices. (EVO yes... Epic, Soon)

Re: New SERO Oct 1st
 

lol they could give it away for free and people would still complain, there is always that part of the whole that you can just never satisfy.

Re: New SERO Oct 1st
 

Pretty crappy if they don't apply it to all old plans (ie fair and flexible). I don't see how they could make any logical reason behind only giving it to SERO. Obviously if you still have a fair and flexible plan, you're just as 'loyal' and an 'enthusiast' as anyone on SERO. I was all set up to sign up for 2 SERO accounts a long time ago when you could just use that holiday email or whatever it was, but retentions gave me a better deal to keep my fair and flexible plan.

Of course if the $20 fee/'any phone worth upgrading to' is not discounted, it's probably the same price as signing up for an everything plan with my corporate discount..

Re: New SERO Oct 1st
 

Is the Palm Pre included in this whole October 1st thing? I havent been able to find much. The talk is all about Android! (I have a free Pre that I currently cant use on SERO)

Re: New SERO Oct 1st
 

Well, considering that I go over my minutes every once in a while, my SERO bill is sometimes $60 total or even $80-90.

$10 for M2M and messaging (whatever that means exactly) is not a bad deal at all for those of us in my same boat. In fact it's probably what I've been waiting for.

Re: New SERO Oct 1st
 

My tp2 is still my cream of the crop tyvm. until oct 1st rolls around.

Re: New SERO Oct 1st
 

Sounds like you need to get a Google Voice number and Add the FREE Sprint to Home option using the GV number.

I just Took over a SERO account and added the FREE Spritn to Home Option(added my GV number). You then essentially have unlimited anytime minutes. Use your GV number to call out to any # and it charges it as free Sprint to Home, also works on incoming when they call your GV number!

Re: New SERO Oct 1st
 

Dang, I wish I could sell or donate my mins. I don't think I've used 500 mins total in the past 2 1/2 years. Hoping they'll offer me an "iconic" phone in exchange for my malfunctioning TP2 in October since my warranty will still be good :-P

Re: New SERO Oct 1st
 

ive been fiendishly trying to add another sero line to my account. all the noob csr's say its not available yet on my account it shows me having one a few months ago.

also lets talk more about this google voice. ive heard about it, and sometimes i go over my 30$ sero minutes and end up racking my bill into the 50-$60's.

Re: New SERO Oct 1st
 

Is there going to be a Windows phone with better specs released? I mean, I'd have to pay $20 extra just to get the Epic. If we could get a windows phone with newer specs, porting android to it wouldn't be so hard. Android port on the Hd2 isn't bad at all.

Re: New SERO Oct 1st
 

The whole reason people were porting Android onto WM phones was because it was the only way to have an Android device while on SERO. If SERO users are able to use Android devices come October 1st, why would anyone intentionally pick a WM phone only to install Android on it?

Re: New SERO Oct 1st
 

Keep in mind though...if you take the plunge and upgrade your phone to one of the iconic devices, you're pretty much changing your plan and you can't revert back. It's not like the current $10 BIS option for Blackberry users.

Re: New SERO Oct 1st
 

Maybe I should have waiting until Oct 1st to upgrade my phone instead of upgrading it recently.

Re: New SERO Oct 1st
 

I'm betting that they'll eventually waive the additional $10/$20 charges and allow SERO Subscribers to upgrade to ICONIC Devices AND keep their $30 plans.

In 6 months I'll be sporting an EPIC on my Sero Plan for $30/month.

Re: New SERO Oct 1st
 

hmmm...have GV, had it since it was in beta. Really I was only using it for when I went over my spending limit and only was allowed incoming calls, I could then receive the GV incoming call to call someone.

I didn't know about the Sprint to Home option...

Is there a way for my cell number to show up on someone's Caller ID when I'm using the GV line?

Re: New SERO Oct 1st
 

In 6 month Epic will be absolete. Here come dual core phones.

Re: New SERO Oct 1st
 

Found something on Howard Forums stating that WebOS and Android will now be included on SERO. Looks like I will keep the Pre for the wife until Oct 1st and see instead of selling it.

Re: New SERO Oct 1st
 

$30 +10 +10(4) +7 +tax for any device. Still a rumor.

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What makes you think that?