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brack21 08-22-2010 09:07 PM

Re: New SERO Oct 1st
 
I sure hope it will apply to all legacy plans. That would put me into an evo or epic for a total monthly price of $27.00 for everything.

Lowranger 08-22-2010 10:47 PM

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[ Originally Posted by Lowranger http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/images/buttons/viewpost.gif
I'm betting that they'll eventually waive the additional $10/$20 charges and allow SERO Subscribers to upgrade to ICONIC Devices AND keep their $30 plans.

In 6 months I'll be sporting an EPIC on my Sero Plan for $30/month.
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What makes you think that?

As Delfin2003 pointed out, "In 6 month Epic will be absolete. Here come dual core phones. "

By then all the Sero folks that would ever make the switch will have done so and newer devices will be nearing their rollout.

Remaining inventories of Evos and Epics will need to be cleared as the newer devices take their place.

And most of all, because I'm utterly satisfied with my Vogue and wouldn't spend an additional penny to jettison my SERO Plan in order to obtain an ICONIC Device. Heck, I can even run Android on it if I want to.

It's BECAUSE I AM indifferent that the opportunity WILL present itself. If I was EAGER for it to happen, it never would. (My life experiences have borne this out. When I want things to happen, they don't. When I don't care, they do:banghead:)

If I were SERIOUSLY thinking of upgrading I'd probably get a Touch Pro 2.

gullzway 08-23-2010 12:09 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Lowranger (Post 1919949)
I'm betting that they'll eventually waive the additional $10/$20 charges and allow SERO Subscribers to upgrade to ICONIC Devices AND keep their $30 plans.

In 6 months I'll be sporting an EPIC on my Sero Plan for $30/month.


Will have to wait it out on that one. Sprint Rep told me today that the $10 to use Android devices was NOT an Add-on, it was a Whole New Plan. I would assume there will be No way to go back to the $30 SERO once you switch. That is why I just dusted off this old Diamond and loaded Xandroid on it.

quick99si 08-23-2010 12:22 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gullzway (Post 1920623)
Will have to wait it out on that one. Sprint Rep told me today that the $10 to use Android devices was NOT an Add-on, it was a Whole New Plan. I would assume there will be No way to go back to the $30 SERO once you switch. That is why I just dusted off this old Diamond and loaded Xandroid on it.

I've heard the exact opposite actually, though that Murphy's Law blog apparently agrees that it's a new plan. I suppose it only makes sense to slowly ween us off the $30 price point.

yankees45us 08-23-2010 12:31 AM

I doubt it this will apply to any legacy plans. Especially if with the extra fee for android your bill still ends up under $30. Sprint is not stupid. They are not going to allow that much money being lost.

It is also not a new plan. It is an add on just like the addon that power vision first was. Those on SERO who want a 3g only android WILL have to pay the $10 fee and those who want a 4g android will have to pay $20. No way around it. So your sero will stay intact with the extra fees. So it will be either $40 or 50. No way around that.
Don't know how some of you think you can just pay the $30 and have an android phone. It will be just like the evo now. As soon as you activate the evo the $10 fee is automatically charged. No way to prevent that.

Don't forget that with the $10 fee you also get anytime any mobile, sprint nav, and sprint tv. I don't think sprint us going to allow you to get that at no cost. Even with the fees it's still the best plan around. The closest plan that can beat it is the new $40 virgin unlimited plan and they still don't have an android phone.



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pctek4456 08-23-2010 12:45 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by yankees45us (Post 1920637)
I doubt it this will apply to any legacy plans. Especially if with the extra fee for android your bill still ends up under $30. Sprint is not stupid. They are not going to allow that much money being lost.

It is also not a new plan. It is an add on just like the addon that power vision first was. Those on SERO who want a 3g only android WILL have to pay the $10 fee and those who want a 4g android will have to pay $20. No way around it. So your sero will stay intact with the extra fees. So it will be either $40 or 50. No way around that.
Don't know how some of you think you can just pay the $30 and have an android phone. It will be just like the evo now. As soon as you activate the evo the $10 fee is automatically charged. No way to prevent that.

Don't forget that with the $10 fee you also get anytime any mobile, sprint nav, and sprint tv. I don't think sprint us going to allow you to get that at no cost. Even with the fees it's still the best plan around. The closest plan that can beat it is the new $40 virgin unlimited plan and they still don't have an android phone.



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what $40 virgin mobile unlimited plan? I thought that was only unlimited data (data cards)

oppman 08-23-2010 01:36 AM

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So what happens to SERO users that have the -- Fair and Flexible - 1250 Anytime Minutes ?
Which is what I have... The plan is already $49.99 adding $10 to switch to android and $10 for the 4g Doesnt make sense at $69.99... do you guys think those SERO customers will be given the option to go down to 500 minutes? I never go over like 400..lol guess everyone i know is on SPRINT.

Any ideas? thanks

mykie 08-23-2010 11:18 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by oppman (Post 1920671)
The plan is already $49.99 adding $10 to switch to android and $10 for the 4g Doesnt make sense at $69.99... do you guys think those SERO customers will be given the option to go down to 500 minutes?

You can always switch to EPRP with 500 minutes for the same price :-?

yankees45us 08-23-2010 11:20 AM

@oppman
I would call sprint come oct.1. Heck I would try calling them now. They may switch you to the 500 min plan. Back when sero was discontinued my brother inlaw changed his plan down to 500. You might get lucky especially since I was offered to go back to sero after going to everything data. The sprint rep told me that with the oct.1 deal in effect some codes have become active and that's how they would be able to get me back on sero.

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Mojary 08-23-2010 12:00 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gullzway (Post 1920623)
Will have to wait it out on that one. Sprint Rep told me today that the $10 to use Android devices was NOT an Add-on, it was a Whole New Plan. I would assume there will be No way to go back to the $30 SERO once you switch. That is why I just dusted off this old Diamond and loaded Xandroid on it.

it's a new plan in a sense that Mr. Mcguire stated on his blog by calling it the "premium SERO plan". and he also answered a question that was asked about going back to the $30 SERO...the answer was a NO. so if you decide to upgrade to the premium SERO plan, you will not be able to revert back in the future to the $30 plan.

aldamon 08-23-2010 01:39 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by quick99si (Post 1920630)
I suppose it only makes sense to slowly ween us off the $30 price point.

Why does it make sense? Because they want more money?

japper88 08-23-2010 02:06 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by aldamon (Post 1921024)
Why does it make sense? Because they want more money?

Obviously they want more money! Why else would Sprint prevent current SERO customers from getting android/palmOS/instinct series phones? (I never understood why they wouldn't let us get the instinct series phones.) I guess they did some number crunching and studies and determined that $10 was a good price point where people would be willing to leave $30 SERO 500 forever in order to get newer fancier phones. I think they softened us up first by denying us access to all the new "iconic" phones. Now people are hungry for android etc, $10/mo doesn't sound so bad. I hope this is where Sprint stops... although I have a sneaky suspicion that this is a slipper slope and Sprint will find another way in 2 years to tack on another $10 "premium fee" :banghead:

brownhornet 08-23-2010 02:57 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by aldamon (Post 1921024)
Why does it make sense? Because they want more money?

Maybe because they're trying to stop LOSING money. I guess people here forget that Sprint is a business FIRST. Clearly you didnt think that this sero thing was going to last forever. Like I said on another thread.. you got over for a while and saved some money now its time to man up and pay up if you want Sprint to be able to survive. If Sprint let everyone be on sero and eventually got swallowed up by Verizon then you'd all REALLY see what its like to have to pay more per month.

vzihome 08-23-2010 03:28 PM

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picture this your a hitchhiker and sprint is a pickup. sprint decides to let you on and help you get where ever you are going. you decide that you want to drive, and make several stops along the way, while complaining about the truck not being comfortable,etc... you just cant do that...beggars cant be choosers...enjoy the ride...when its time to get off say thanks. remember you could still be stuck hitchhiking in the middle of nowhere, or worse paying what most other plans cost...btw im on sprint with sero.

quick99si 08-23-2010 07:06 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by aldamon (Post 1921024)
Why does it make sense? Because they want more money?

I've heard claims from several sources of varying credibility, none of which were backed by figures, that SERO plans become a money losing proposition as soon as an "average" amount of data was used. I never bought this because a quick comparison to those unlimited Boost/Cricket/etc plans shows that SERO 500 can't be THAT much of a money loser, if at all.

I'm not condoning the act of tethering on SERO and transferring 30GB of data every month (that seems like plain old ABUSE to me). It's cases like that which kill the value of SERO for Sprint, and it may very well be part of the reason that Sprint is slowly but surely cutting down on the number of $30 SERO plans out there.

And by the way, these addons do make the SERO 1250 plan pretty damn useless.

austin420 08-23-2010 09:33 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mojary
Quote:

Originally Posted by gullzway (Post 1920623)
Will have to wait it out on that one. Sprint Rep told me today that the $10 to use Android devices was NOT an Add-on, it was a Whole New Plan. I would assume there will be No way to go back to the $30 SERO once you switch. That is why I just dusted off this old Diamond and loaded Xandroid on it.

it's a new plan in a sense that Mr. Mcguire stated on his blog by calling it the "premium SERO plan". and he also answered a question that was asked about going back to the $30 SERO...the answer was a NO. so if you decide to upgrade to the premium SERO plan, you will not be able to revert back in the future to the $30 plan.

i second and third this.
(multiple personalities, lol)

w7excursion 08-23-2010 09:51 PM

Re: New SERO Oct 1st
 
According to rusty you can go back to old sero.

w7excursion 08-23-2010 09:53 PM

Re: New SERO Oct 1st
 
So there lol. http://mcguireslaw.com/2009/07/24/ps...erything-plus/

austin420 08-23-2010 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by w7excursion
According to rusty you can go back to old sero.

not from what i read...
quote from comments section of the article you linkd to...
Russ Says:
August 17th, 2010 at 8:03 am

Matt,

From what I understand, online ESN swap doesn’t work with SERO because the plan type is no longer available.

But, in general, once you upgrade to the “premium” SERO plan, I don’t think you can go back, so your bill would remain at $40 or higher ($50 with EVO).

Russ

and this a bit later...
  1. TJ Says:
    August 19th, 2010 at 3:03 pm Hi Russ,
    I conic devices on a SERO is wonderful news. But, my questions is, if i decide to let’s say get the HTC Hero on my SERO plan when I upgrade in October, I understand that there’s that $10 fee added each month which makes the $30 SERO now a $40/mo plan. That’s a fair trade. But what if after 6 months or 1 year, i decide to put back my HTC Touch Pro 2 back on my SERO (that’s what is currently activated on it)…does my monthly then go back to the $30/mo? Or will it stay at $40?
    Any info in clarifying this would be awsome!
  2. Russ Says:
    August 19th, 2010 at 3:44 pm TJ,
    The premium SERO plan does allow upgrading to an iconic device, but it also provides some pretty significant other value as well - specifically Any Mobile, Anytime (calls to any U.S. mobile phone don’t count against your minutes) and free Sprint Navigation. Anyone can upgrade to the premium plan whether or not they want to upgrade to an iconic device. Once you upgrade, you can’t go back.
    Russ
  3. Russ Says:
    August 19th, 2010 at 3:45 pm TJ - one clarification - you can go back to your old device or another non-iconic device, but you can’t go back to the non-premium ($30) SERO plan.

Mojary 08-23-2010 10:36 PM

Woohoo! Looks like he updated the post today regarding being able to revert back. Which is cool! This info closes the deal for me. I can upgrade my sero and after a few months, go back to paying $30 by reverting back to the tp or tp2 phone on it.

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Mojary 08-23-2010 10:39 PM

Austin...a few post down he corrects himself and says its possible.

sorry for the double posting...can't edit posts with the app I'm using to read the forum.

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austin420 08-23-2010 10:53 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mojary (Post 1921586)
Austin...a few post down he corrects himself and says its possible.

sorry for the double posting...can't edit posts with the app I'm using to read the forum.

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yea. i just saw that. i came back to correct myself, but you beat me too it. dang. cant blame me for being wrong though. that post is like literally brand new. i dont really keep up with his blog. good looking out though.

neodarksaver 08-23-2010 11:21 PM

Re: New SERO Oct 1st
 
hmmm... i guess i will have to pay 10 dollars more when i upgrade next year.

Robperri 08-24-2010 12:48 PM

Re: New SERO Oct 1st
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by oppman (Post 1920671)
So what happens to SERO users that have the -- Fair and Flexible - 1250 Anytime Minutes ?
Which is what I have... The plan is already $49.99 adding $10 to switch to android and $10 for the 4g Doesnt make sense at $69.99... do you guys think those SERO customers will be given the option to go down to 500 minutes? I never go over like 400..lol guess everyone i know is on SPRINT.

Any ideas? thanks

I would like to know this too. I'm in the same boat. Anybody recently change from 1250 to 500 plan without issue?

Pandaman 08-24-2010 01:34 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Robperri (Post 1922113)
I would like to know this too. I'm in the same boat. Anybody recently change from 1250 to 500 plan without issue?

I also have the SERO F&F 1250 plan and was wondering the same thing. What will Sprint offer us on Oct 1st? Will Sprint charge us $10 plus another $10 if we want something like the EVO?

Mojary 08-24-2010 02:03 PM

Re: New SERO Oct 1st
 
looks like that would be the case. because $10 for an iconic device not available for SERO activation plus the $10 Evo charge.

rushco 08-24-2010 02:49 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pandaman
Quote:

Originally Posted by Robperri (Post 1922113)
I would like to know this too. I'm in the same boat. Anybody recently change from 1250 to 500 plan without issue?

I also have the SERO F&F 1250 plan and was wondering the same thing. What will Sprint offer us on Oct 1st? Will Sprint charge us $10 plus another $10 if we want something like the EVO?

A question no one can answer.

one80oneday 08-24-2010 02:52 PM

Re: New SERO Oct 1st
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Robperri (Post 1922113)
I would like to know this too. I'm in the same boat. Anybody recently change from 1250 to 500 plan without issue?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pandaman (Post 1922169)
I also have the SERO F&F 1250 plan and was wondering the same thing. What will Sprint offer us on Oct 1st? Will Sprint charge us $10 plus another $10 if we want something like the EVO?

Quote:

Originally Posted by rushco (Post 1922270)
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A question no one can answer.

Quote:

Originally Posted by oppman (Post 1920671)
So what happens to SERO users that have the -- Fair and Flexible - 1250 Anytime Minutes ?
Which is what I have... The plan is already $49.99 adding $10 to switch to android and $10 for the 4g Doesnt make sense at $69.99... do you guys think those SERO customers will be given the option to go down to 500 minutes? I never go over like 400..lol guess everyone i know is on SPRINT.

Any ideas? thanks


You guys really need to READ! http://mcguireslaw.com/2009/07/24/ps.../#comment-3723

Pandaman 08-24-2010 03:04 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by one80oneday (Post 1922275)

Maybe YOU could just answer the question, IF you have an answer.

one80oneday 08-24-2010 03:14 PM

Re: New SERO Oct 1st
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pandaman (Post 1922290)
Maybe YOU could just answer the question, IF you have an answer.

Quote:

Russ Says:
August 23rd, 2010 at 10:55 am

Yes, as I understand it, you will be able to switch from the SERO 1250 to the SERO Premium 500.
Nobody knows for sure but the Sprint VP seems to know his stuff

Pandaman 08-24-2010 04:27 PM

Re: New SERO Oct 1st
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by one80oneday (Post 1922300)
Nobody knows for sure but the Sprint VP seems to know his stuff

Thanks! If I can do that, then my bill will stay the same at $50/mo, my daytime minutes will go down to 500, but I'll add unlimited mobile to mobile and Sprint Nav. Sounds good to me. Now maybe I'll get the EVO or more likely the Epic since I love my TP2 keyboard and don't really like software keyboards that take up half the screen! ! I just wish it had a kick-stand! :-)

JSMZ 08-24-2010 06:40 PM

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What a crock of shat. So someone PLEASE explain to me what this $10 a month for an android will get me besides the android that i would presumably have to pay several hundred dollars for anyway?

I mean, just what services am i going to receive for that $10 a month that my windows mobile device doesnt already have access to? HMMMM?

Seems like just another way for sprint to sukker us out of more money :dontknow: because we ALL know these phones can be activated on our plans right now...with no changes.... if they wanted to do it.

Mojary 08-24-2010 06:52 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JSMZ (Post 1922564)
What a crock of shat. So someone PLEASE explain to me what this $10 a month for an android will get me besides the android that i would presumably have to pay several hundred dollars for anyway?

I mean, just what services am i going to receive for that $10 a month that my windows mobile device doesnt already have access to? HMMMM?

Seems like just another way for sprint to sukker us out of more money :dontknow: because we ALL know these phones can be activated on our plans right now...with no changes.... if they wanted to do it.

it's for the addition of sprint nav and anytime any mobile addition on the SERO plan. so if you have the 500 SERO, you only have unlimited mobile to mobile (sprint to sprint) and no sprint nav. it's another $10 if you want sprint nav on that SERO and the anytime any mobile isn't an option you can just add for an extra charge. so for an extra $10/month getting those two features on your account with an iconic device is a good deal.

muyoso 08-24-2010 06:55 PM

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So is sprint going to get an awesome Android phone that isn't 4g so I don't have to pay an EXTRA 10 dollars for 4g?

Mojary 08-24-2010 06:56 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by muyoso (Post 1922587)
So is sprint going to get an awesome Android phone that isn't 4g so I don't have to pay an EXTRA 10 dollars for 4g?

only time will tell.

JSMZ 08-24-2010 07:46 PM

Re: New SERO Oct 1st
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mojary (Post 1922585)
it's for the addition of sprint nav and anytime any mobile addition on the SERO plan.


and there is my problem. I never even go over 100 anytime minutes so... i really have no need or want for any more minutes.

and sprint navigation COME ONNNN MAN. These phones have built in gps1 chips that run off real satellites who the he11 needs sprints crappy nav that runs off cell tower triangulation.

So, back to the ONE thing i gain for $10 a month... the "privilege" of paying $10 more a month for a phone im going to pay ohh probably $4-500 for anyway.

Yippie. This is really starting to sound "apple-ish"

maybe sprint should change their symbol to a apple with two bites taken out of it.

rushco 08-24-2010 08:01 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JSMZ (Post 1922652)
and there is my problem. I never even go over 100 anytime minutes so... i really have no need or want for any more minutes.

and sprint navigation COME ONNNN MAN.

So, back to the ONE thing i gain for $10 a month... the "privilege" of paying $10 more a month for a phone im going to pay ohh probably $4-500 for anyway.

Same here. Google Maps and I never talk on my phone.

But the cell phone carriers only have the cell phone carriers to compete with. There is no how to run a cell company book. They each are doing what they think is best for the company and their users. They see how ATT and the iPhone work and the big wigs at Sprint want to see if they can get away with making people change plans for phones.

Sprint is trying to change things to please 45 million or whatever the amount is. This is like Obama trying to please all the Americans. Sprint and Obama are trying to keep everyone up-to-date with the changing times so it is easier to keep everyone on the same page. It will never happen but they can try.

The "other side" comments usually get drowned out by all the negative comments and then that is all you see.

JSMZ 08-24-2010 08:11 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rushco (Post 1922668)
This is like Obama trying to please all the Americans.

BUAHAHA good one! :occasion5:

o0adam0o 08-24-2010 10:57 PM

Re: New SERO Oct 1st
 
I would pay $10/mo more for an evo... but SERO users are looking at $20 more for an EVO. Sucks! Guess ill keep my TP2 longer....

muyoso 08-24-2010 11:38 PM

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Dude, even though it sucks, its literally the cheapest plan for some of the most top of the line phones out there. 50 dollars a month for an EVO with 500 minutes and unlimited everything basically? That is sick. Also, the Samsung Galaxy S will be available for that price, which is also sick. I really don't think its unfair what Sprint is doing at all. You have the choice, stay with crappy phones on a 30 dollar plan or pay literally the lowest rate in the country for any new Android phone or WP7 when it comes out.


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