**ATTENTION CHEFS** HTC "Enhancements" vs Performance

[dishe]

ATTENTION CHEFS!
I've been out of the Rom cooking scene for a while because I found 9 times out of 10, someone had already built something similar to what I wanted. So, thanks for that!

But lately, I feel like none of the current roms are really letting the TP2 reach its full potential.

I'm not sure if any of the big chefs have played with this idea yet, but wanted to throw it your way and see what you think...
I noticed the points that slow down my phone the most are the HTC "enhancements". I mean, we all know that Sense is a resource hog, but that's not even what I'm talking about. If I wanted to save a phone number, for example, and I click "save to contact", then click "new contact", I can start counting seconds go by as the phone sits and loads the HTC new contact screen. For a brief moment it seems to be frozen. This is true of any rom I've tried.

Yes, this new HTC contact screen is much more finger friendly than the stock MS one. But is it at the cost of efficiency? Its rather frustrating when you are taking down someone's phone number and make them wait for your phone to be ready to ask how to spell their name. I do this frequently when I meet contacts for work, and its enough to regret having a WinMo phone. The funny thing is, I never remember having this kind of problem with my WinMo devices before HTC started customizing the OS. I don't think WinMo is to blame for this.

The same is true of most of the HTC "enhancements", I've found. The volume screen, contact manager, notification screen, etc... all this stuff seems to slower to respond than their native MS counterparts, and it feels like I'm constantly waiting for the next thing to happen.

I recall a Touch Pro rom by DCD (who never got the recognition he deserved around here, IMO) that was about as barebones as barebones can be... and it was the FASTEST my Touch Pro ever was. I installed apps manually via cab files, and was extremely happy with it. But sadly, nothing like this exists for the Rhodium. Even the "clean" roms still seem to have all that HTC junk built in.
I understand many people like the way the HTC stuff looks- and I don't blame them. But I KNOW the hardware on this thing is capable of a more responsive experience than we're getting now, and I'd like to have that option! My old Touch Pro was noticeably more responsive and snappier than my Rhodium is- I even compared them side by side.

IMO, these customized UI screens that hostily take over basic functions of our devices are the culprit and have GOT TO GO!

Anyone feel the same way??

[kidwolf908]

Agree 100%. I HATE trying to call someone on this phone if I have to look through my contact list for the number. I also HATE trying to add contacts... soooo slowwww.

[Maan76]

I totally agree and I already did some of what you just said , you can always disable HTC menu enhancement , just by playing with the registry key, you will get disabled.

[dishe]

Originally Posted by Maan76

I totally agree and I already did some of what you just said , you can always disable HTC menu enhancement , just by playing with the registry key, you will get disabled.

Some of it, like the notifications, can be disabled. But some of it, like the call history and new contact screens, can't AFAIK.

I'm not saying I want EVERYTHING HTC made gone- HTC Random Access, for example, really made the contacts menu easier to navigate without slowing anything down. Heck, I wouldn't mind having Sense as an option (if the dependencies on other "enhancements" could be removed, and I'm not sure they could). I just don't want the HTC alternatives to core features of my phone. Volume bar is another great example. Remember when it used to just be a little overlay in the top right corner, that wouldn't hide the screen you're looking at?
Now we've got this whole full-screen black thing that needs to be cleared to go back to what we were doing. I don't care if it is finger friendly- I'm using the freaking volume BUTTONS to adjust it!!

[slochild]

I for 1 would love to see a ROM with manila 2.5 still in it, and cookie as well, but without any of the other HTC bloat. I'm thinking something like this, but stripped of the bloat (and maybe using the new 2.18.02WV radio and 2.43 PRI from USCC).

agree....please somebody, listen to this man!

[ooxteme]

I couldnt agree more!!!! I for one never use nfl mobile, the software store, sprint music store ect. a rom with the bare essentials would be great then add the tweaks and what not to sense and im guessing you'd have one fast puppy!!!!!!!

[boredandtattooed]

so you guys hate the fact the YOU, Yourself, installed something??

the user wouldve chose to download a SENSE version of manila.. SENSE meaning HTC intergration.. the difference between 2.1 and 2.5 is even more integration of Sense in the Manila UI... so its your own fault if you have it..

one would have to look hard to find pre-Sense Roms, but they're there.. go get em if you want them... but as the Sense series grew(ie 2.1,2.5,2.6), so did the amount the HTC integrated throughout manila..

i think its rude to make a mass msg like this for CHEFS... they make what they want to make.. the fact that Chefs even put it up on a server for the masses to download is beyond gracious... theres plenty of Chefs who just make Roms for themselves and dont share..

so now someones making a post about "i like your ROMs, BUT.....!".. just seems foul to me... Learn how to make your own damn Roms and make the adjustments you feel is needed... but its a sad day when people who dont even have a clue what theyre doing, are making threads/demands to Chefs

[slochild]

WHAT are you talking about? The OP said "I'm not sure if any of the big chefs have played with this idea yet, but wanted to throw it your way and see what you think...". How is that a "demand"? Other people say they agree it would be nice. I have a great deal of appreciation for those who share what they've made. It's awesome. But how is saying a change or two would be nice also saying that what people have shared is unappreciated and that it is demanded they do anything?

[Gorby]

FYI: Energy has Titanium ROMs that do not include HTC stuff. Not sure if other chefs do as well but that's the one I am using at the moment.