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Old 02-23-2010, 07:41 PM
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Re: Data and Voice at the same time?

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I think what he is trying to say is that when on a call, the reg hack forced data to go through 1x instead of EVDO, which I guess would make data work at the same time since both use the 1x connection(but would be slow data).
Pretty sure he's wrong. Just like you can't use dial up internet and use the phone at the same time, you can't use 1X internet and use the phone at the same time.

The reason you can do it on GSM is because the HSPA (3G data) is not what the voice uses. On the contrary- on GSM, if you only have EDGE, you can NOT use data and voice at the same time.

If someone is trying to tell me voice and data work at the same time on Cricket- I need to see a video proving it before I believe it.

Seriously- Sprint and Verizon can't do it, but Cricket can? Not a chance.
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Old 02-23-2010, 08:10 PM
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Re: Data and Voice at the same time?

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Seriously- Sprint and Verizon can't do it, but Cricket can? Not a chance.
K - I figured this would turn into a bunch of people saying all kinds of junk about what can't be done instead of someone trying to actually help given the FACTS that I stated. Those facts being:

- I use Cricket
- I have a PPC 6700 (in addition to my TP2)
- The PPC 6700 can handle a voice call and while I talk on the phone I can surf Web pages in IE.

Not sure how it works, or why it works. But it works. So my simple question was does anyone know the hack for the PPC? Because I want to try it on the TP2 over a Cricket network.

I don't wanna hear about Sprint or Verizon or GSM or EVDO specs or what's on sale at your local Walmart.

Sorry if that's sounds a bit curt. I thought my question was pretty clear to begin with.

We need more signal and less noise. Oooo, a cell phone pun.
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Old 02-23-2010, 08:16 PM
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Re: Data and Voice at the same time?

Start a phone call then go to www.whatismyip.com then tell me what your IP is.
This will do two things, prove you can get to a site you haven't been to already (not cached) and and I look at the arin whois info and see if the IP is owned by your telco (not wifi)
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Old 02-23-2010, 08:31 PM
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Re: Data and Voice at the same time?

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K - I figured this would turn into a bunch of people saying all kinds of junk about what can't be done instead of someone trying to actually help given the FACTS that I stated. Those facts being:

- I use Cricket
- I have a PPC 6700 (in addition to my TP2)
- The PPC 6700 can handle a voice call and while I talk on the phone I can surf Web pages in IE.

Not sure how it works, or why it works. But it works. So my simple question was does anyone know the hack for the PPC? Because I want to try it on the TP2 over a Cricket network.

I don't wanna hear about Sprint or Verizon or GSM or EVDO specs or what's on sale at your local Walmart.

Sorry if that's sounds a bit curt. I thought my question was pretty clear to begin with.

We need more signal and less noise. Oooo, a cell phone pun.
And I am sorry if this sounds a bit curt, but you are wrong man. You can not use an active data session while using voice on any CDMA network in north america. There are some 3G specs that allowed it, but EVDO is not one of them (and 1X sure as heck isn't either).

Again, post a video proving it. You say all of those claims are facts- not until you prove them buddy. Right now they are just outlandish claims.

The technology Cricket uses (CDMA) does not allow for voice and data at the same time. Period.

I will happily admit that I (and everyone else, on every relevant site on the net) is wrong about this if you post a video. But we all know that won't happen because it simply isn't possible.

So, in short- the "hack" you are asking for does not exist. That's why nobody has given it to you.

You think Verizon would allow AT&T to blast them in all the commercials about voice and data at the same time? I mean, seriously, if it was just a simple reg hack to get it to work? LOL!

It's the technology the network is using that prevents it, not a setting on the phone.

Show me something, anything, that even hints this is possible. The only way it's even almost possible is if the carrier switches to a VOIP instead of a switched network. And even then, it would have to be a pretty high bandwidth and low latency connection. 1X is neither of those. EVDO isn't even good enough to do it (especially the rev 0 EVDO that Cricket uses) let alone a dial up speed 1X connection.
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K - I figured this would turn into a bunch of people saying all kinds of junk about what can't be done instead of someone trying to actually help given the FACTS that I stated.
Here's my question: what's the purpose of this thread? You have had multiple answers to your question, and now because you didn't hear what you wanted, you're angry? Tell you what, when you figure out how to do it on a CDMA touch pro2, let us know .
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Re: Data and Voice at the same time?

OP,

Apparently no one here believes that this can be accomplished. Honestly, neither do I. But where I differ is that I will offer you a solid way to get what you are looking for from your 6700, and have an opportunity to prove everyone here wrong. Do I have your attention yet? Good....

Now request a registry dump from another member here, for a 6700 on Cricket, and then dump your registry. Then you can compare the two on your PC and find the registry addition, edit or deletion that made this work for you on your 6700. When you find it, try the same on your TP2. If that works, post it here in the forums.

I guarantee that if you figure it out and post a working fix, your reputation will grow faster than my blood pressure when watching any movie starring Megan fox.
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Old 02-24-2010, 12:12 AM
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Re: Data and Voice at the same time?

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OP,

Apparently no one here believes that this can be accomplished. Honestly, neither do I. But where I differ is that I will offer you a solid way to get what you are looking for from your 6700, and have an opportunity to prove everyone here wrong. Do I have your attention yet? Good....

Now request a registry dump from another member here, for a 6700 on Cricket, and then dump your registry. Then you can compare the two on your PC and find the registry addition, edit or deletion that made this work for you on your 6700. When you find it, try the same on your TP2. If that works, post it here in the forums.

I guarantee that if you figure it out and post a working fix, your reputation will grow faster than my blood pressure when watching any movie starring Megan fox.
If he posts a working fix that allows simultaneous voice and data on a CDMA Touch Pro 2, you're right, his reputation will be out of control. I'll personally search his history and thank every one of his posts.

By the way, I have an old 6700. If you need a registry dump, let me know. I will probably need some instructions on how to do that too (for free).
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Well now it's time to add my 10cents!!! This might be able to work cause of this remeber all the sprint and verizon customers that gets stuck in 1x and it has happen to me getting stuck in 1x I can still use the net or any data sevice on my phone so if getting stuck in 1x and I can still browes the web or anything data why can't anyone really try to see if it's possible so don't shoot this down with just hearsay saying that it can't be done lets all really try to make it happen anything's possible remember that they told us we couldn't get "HTC SENSE ON OUR TP2'S AND DIAMOND 2'S" So now lets figure out how is it possible to use data when stuck in 1x when it happends to our phones and it happends! So we can use both at the same time

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Old 02-24-2010, 12:27 AM
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Well now it's time to add my 10cents!!! This might be able to work cause of this remeber all the sprint and verizon customers that gets stuck in 1x and it has happen to me getting stuck in 1x I can still use the net or any data sevice on my phone so if getting stuck in 1x and I can still browes the web or anything data why can't anyone really try to see if it's possible so don't shoot this down with just hearsay saying that it can't be done lets all really try to make it happen anything's possible remember that they told us we couldn't get "HTC SENSE ON OUR TP2'S AND DIAMOND 2'S" So now lets figure out how is it possible to use data when stuck in 1x when it happends to our phones and it happends! So we can use both at the same time

Ha take dat and dat!
1X data works fine. Not sure what that has to do with anything though. But yes, if your phone gets stuck in 1x, you should be able to use 1x data.

You can't use 1x data while you are talking on the phone though. It's either 1 or the other, but not both at the same time.

This isn't hearsay either. This is a well documented limitation of CDMA. It's not a Sprint limitation, or a Verizon limitation, it's a CDMA limitation. And yes, there are some specs that CDMA could evolve to that allow it (EVDV comes to mind) but EVDO Rev A (and EVDO rev 0) flat out can't use voice and data at the same time. And 1x certainly can't either.

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Re: Data and Voice at the same time?

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Well now it's time to add my 10cents!!! This might be able to work cause of this remeber all the sprint and verizon customers that gets stuck in 1x and it has happen to me getting stuck in 1x I can still use the net or any data sevice on my phone so if getting stuck in 1x and I can still browes the web or anything data why can't anyone really try to see if it's possible so don't shoot this down with just hearsay saying that it can't be done lets all really try to make it happen anything's possible remember that they told us we couldn't get "HTC SENSE ON OUR TP2'S AND DIAMOND 2'S" So now lets figure out how is it possible to use data when stuck in 1x when it happends to our phones and it happends! So we can use both at the same time

Ha take dat and dat!
lol, your asking for someone to make the network do what it isn't designed to do. good luck with that.
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