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kidwolf908 02-17-2010 05:13 PM

Sleep OF Death!
 
You all know what it is... why is it plaguing my TP2?!?

I recently upgraded (2-3 weeks ago) to VZW's 6.5 and for the past week, I have been getting at least 1-2 SOD's each day. Sometimes 5 or so!!!

If you don't know what I am talking about, the sleep of death is a condition where you hit the screen off/sleep button and afterward, the phone never wakes up! If you pull out the stylus,t he buttons will light and if you hit the end key, it will tell you to press the backlight button to turn on the screen, but doing so never wakes the phone up!

I have heard that disabling Sense 2.1's animated weather on the home screen fixes this, but I have tried it and can verify that it does not solve the problem.

Does anyone have any idea of a fix for this?

***This never happened on my TP2 when I was on VZW 6.1***

aj48198 02-17-2010 05:38 PM

Re: Sleep OF Death!
 
It may be an issue with you lock screen if you have it installed. It did that with my phone until I uninstalled that app. But at the same time, I am on Sprint and using a custom rom so my solution could be way off compared to your problem. But its worth looking into.

anand525 02-17-2010 05:46 PM

Re: Sleep OF Death!
 
do the flash dance and/or change custom rom you're on.

QMeli907 02-17-2010 05:53 PM

Re: Sleep OF Death!
 
I've heard once that it was caused from having an auto disconnect data cab on your device. I had this issue, so i removed this file, and everything worked just peachy

kidwolf908 02-17-2010 06:40 PM

Re: Sleep OF Death!
 
see this is what sucks. i dont run a custom rom. i also don't have any special lockscreen installed apart from lockdevice 1.6 so the device locks when i turn off the backlight.

I also don't run a custom rom so I don't know why I would have to do the flash dance.

I also don't have the data disconnect cab installed :-/

I will try uninstalling my lockscreen, but that can't be a permanent fix because the 6.5 lockscreen is perfect for me.

kabuk1 02-17-2010 06:53 PM

Re: Sleep OF Death!
 
Do you underclock by any chance? I've noticed that I get the sleep of death when I underclock my phone too much. Anything lower than 384mhz gives me problems.

Barring that, I'd try flashing a custom ROM(they're often better than stock, especially on Verizon), and just install programs one by one till you narrow down the culprit. Sometimes the most random programs can cause issues like this.

kidwolf908 02-17-2010 07:00 PM

Re: Sleep OF Death!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kabuk1 (Post 1572862)
Do you underclock by any chance? I've noticed that I get the sleep of death when I underclock my phone too much. Anything lower than 384mhz gives me problems.

Barring that, I'd try flashing a custom ROM(they're often better than stock, especially on Verizon), and just install programs one by one till you narrow down the culprit. Sometimes the most random programs can cause issues like this.

I don't underclock the phone at all... in fact I had no idea you could even do that. would you mind pointing me in the direction of that thread?

Also, i'm kicking around the idea of moving to sense 2.5 anyway, so I might make the jump and see if this problem goes away.

cbreze 02-17-2010 07:08 PM

Re: Sleep OF Death!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kidwolf908 (Post 1572573)

Does anyone have any idea of a fix for this?

***This never happened on my TP2 when I was on VZW 6.1***

Sorry for your issue, and I have a comment only, I could not handle all the various little issues I seemed to pick up when I tried the verizon 6.5 oem rom. I know alot rave about it and thats fine. I tried several customs and found alot of peace and stability. I'm currently back on 6.1 oem and was wondering if you'd tried flashing back. yeah, it's 6.1 but imho, so what? It works and works very fine. If you haven't tried it you should then flash forward again if you want, that might help also.... cheers

eman 02-17-2010 09:10 PM

Re: Sleep OF Death!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kabuk1 (Post 1572862)
Do you underclock by any chance? I've noticed that I get the sleep of death when I underclock my phone too much. Anything lower than 384mhz gives me problems.

Barring that, I'd try flashing a custom ROM(they're often better than stock, especially on Verizon), and just install programs one by one till you narrow down the culprit. Sometimes the most random programs can cause issues like this.

I understand better battery possibly, but I cannot imagine under-clocking a TP2. That would be scary......

bastian74 02-17-2010 09:27 PM

Re: Sleep OF Death!
 
mine does that some times, sprint stock tp2 6.1 i have a lock program too. not s2u the other main one. i noticed it happens more if i sleep the phone while its very busy, like if i open or close an app without waiting for it to complete or if i sleep while still booting up

bikeandestroyx 02-17-2010 09:30 PM

Re: Sleep OF Death!
 
I can almost guarantee it is caused by lockdevice 1.6, try performing a clear storage or a hardreset, then dont install that app, should fix the problem.

kidwolf908 02-17-2010 10:24 PM

Re: Sleep OF Death!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bikeandestroyx (Post 1573272)
I can almost guarantee it is caused by lockdevice 1.6, try performing a clear storage or a hardreset, then dont install that app, should fix the problem.

Bahumbug. That is my favorite app on the whole phone lol...

I hate how slow and clunky S2U2 is and lock device is perfect for what I want.

This stinks.

bikeandestroyx 02-17-2010 10:27 PM

Re: Sleep OF Death!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kidwolf908 (Post 1573432)
Bahumbug. That is my favorite app on the whole phone lol...

I hate how slow and clunky S2U2 is and lock device is perfect for what I want.

This stinks.

There are other apps that do the same thing, try out smartlock 1.7

rolfeman02 02-17-2010 11:26 PM

Re: Sleep OF Death!
 
I had this problem as well and I am using 6.1 with spb mobile shell. I ended upi taking it in the sprint and they just gave me a whole new phone. I was in and out in 20 minutes. I don't think it is software related, as there was another thread on here about the same issue.

rolfeman02 02-17-2010 11:28 PM

Re: Sleep OF Death!
 
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=110697

UnityGain 02-18-2010 12:02 AM

Re: Sleep OF Death!
 
I experienced this issue after flashing to the Verizon 6.5 OEM ROM. I did a hard reset and haven't experienced the issue since.

kabuk1 02-18-2010 12:17 AM

Re: Sleep OF Death!
 
1 Attachment(s)
I have no issues with underclocking other than the sleep issue. I barely notice a difference between 528 & 384 honestly. I don't get why people think these phones are SO slow, mine is very snappy.

Anyway, I use NueClockControl to underclock. I'll attach the file if anyone wants it.

Baadandy 02-18-2010 02:46 PM

Re: Sleep OF Death!
 
I have had the same issue, after several attempts of installing and re downloading the official rom, I went with the mightyrom and am glad I have its a new much better phone from it. I also had Text message issues where it would lock up for several seconds to mins. for no reason if you were in the text area and hit the return button. Good luck my friend.

kabuk1 02-18-2010 02:58 PM

Re: Sleep OF Death!
 
I get the SOD almost every day whenever I unplug my charger, now that I think about it. I might just remove the underclocker altogether...

kidwolf908 02-18-2010 03:46 PM

Re: Sleep OF Death!
 
geez this is a real bummer. i just started to get comfortable with my sense 2.1 setup and now i'm looking at reflashing, possibly to a sense 2.5.2012 :-/

i could just do the flash dance and re-flash vzw 6.5, but why go through all that for the same rom?

HTCotta 02-18-2010 03:59 PM

Re: Sleep OF Death!
 
Hey Kidwolf, I used to use lockdevice and programs like that but there was always small issues like this so I started looking for a better solution. Finally, i mapped (using rhodiumkbdconfig) my power button to short press - default action, long press - lock device. Works awesome, now if I'm setting my phone down on a table or something i don't have to lock it, and if I'm putting it in my pocket I just hold the button down, it locks and even shuts the screen off when I let go. I had to play with the settings in keyboard controller to get it to work correctly, if you want I can post my config later.

kidwolf908 02-18-2010 04:09 PM

Re: Sleep OF Death!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HTCotta (Post 1574911)
Hey Kidwolf, I used to use lockdevice and programs like that but there was always small issues like this so I started looking for a better solution. Finally, i mapped (using rhodiumkbdconfig) my power button to short press - default action, long press - lock device. Works awesome, now if I'm setting my phone down on a table or something i don't have to lock it, and if I'm putting it in my pocket I just hold the button down, it locks and even shuts the screen off when I let go. I had to play with the settings in keyboard controller to get it to work correctly, if you want I can post my config later.

hell yea man! that sounds awesome! let me know what that config is! when you say power button do you mean the end key or the backlight button?

HTCotta 02-18-2010 04:21 PM

Re: Sleep OF Death!
 
Sorry, I'm on a Sprint phone so my buttons are a tad different I forgot. Yes the backlight button on the top of the phone, the end key has no power functions on the Sprint version.

Portion of my config related to power button:
- <Key>
<KeyCode>65</KeyCode>

<Modifier>None</Modifier>

<Active>True</Active>

- <Rules>
- <Rule>
<Name>*</Name>

<ProcessKey>True</ProcessKey>

<WindowText />

<MatchType>Class</MatchType>

<KeyMode>SeparateActions</KeyMode>

- <KeyMapping>
<Repeat>False</Repeat>

<RepeatInterval>100</RepeatInterval>

<KeyCode>-1</KeyCode>

<Target>OS</Target>

<Ctrl>False</Ctrl>

<Shift>False</Shift>

<Alt>False</Alt>

<Win>False</Win>

<RWin>False</RWin>

<Action>False</Action>

</KeyMapping>


- <Click>
<RepeatInterval>100</RepeatInterval>

<Repeat>False</Repeat>

- <Action>
<ActionType>DefaultKeyAction</ActionType>

<KeyCode>65</KeyCode>

<ExtendedEmulation>True</ExtendedEmulation>

</Action>


</Click>


- <DoubleClick>
<RepeatInterval>100</RepeatInterval>

<Repeat>False</Repeat>

</DoubleClick>


- <TripleClick>
<RepeatInterval>100</RepeatInterval>

<Repeat>False</Repeat>

</TripleClick>


- <LongPress>
<RepeatInterval>100</RepeatInterval>

<Repeat>False</Repeat>

- <Action>
<ActionType>EmulateKeyPress</ActionType>

<KeyCode>133</KeyCode>

<Target>OS</Target>

<Ctrl>False</Ctrl>

<Shift>False</Shift>

<Alt>False</Alt>

<Win>False</Win>

<RWin>False</RWin>

<Action>False</Action>

</Action>


</LongPress>


</Rule>


</Rules>


</Key>

So throw that in your config and see if it doesn't work for you. The only drawback is that it doesn't play all that nice while music is playing through the headphones. If you short press, the screen won't wake back up until you long press to lock, unless you locked it when you shut it off. Minor stuff, really, it ONLY behaves that way while listening to music with headphones. Let me know how it works for you.

Edit: It doesn't seem to want to let me upload my config here so i hope that works, it looks like the copy paste botched some formatting but give it a go.

helix139 02-18-2010 04:59 PM

Re: Sleep OF Death!
 
Wait a couple of minutes and it should wake normally. Alternatively, use your bluetooth headset to initiate a voice command prompt or remove your stylus.

kidwolf908 02-19-2010 02:11 AM

Re: Sleep OF Death!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by helix139 (Post 1575046)
Wait a couple of minutes and it should wake normally. Alternatively, use your bluetooth headset to initiate a voice command prompt or remove your stylus.

I've done the stylus remove trick and it works occasionally, but not all the time.

I wish the phone would just wake up when it is supposed to. This should be a high priority for MS if it is happening to business customers as I'm sure it is.

Ph33zy 03-06-2010 01:07 AM

Re: Sleep OF Death!
 
when you guys brought it into sprint, did you have to demonstrate it? I would imagine it would be hard to show Sprint this problem on the fly. I've been getting SOD's almost everyday now and it's getting really annoying, but I can't go back to WM6.1. I've been using MightyROMS since day one, but I don't think its a ROM issue as I flashed back some of his older ROMs (which I flashed when I first got the phone and never experienced a SOD) and still experience the SOD.

I've relocked, flash to stock, unlocked... tried different radios, but I still get it. This sucks! I've never dropped my phone and handle it like a baby, so I'm not sure what's going on...

bpsamant 03-06-2010 10:24 PM

Re: Sleep OF Death!
 
same thing has been happening to my ~3month old tp2.

IT IS VERY IRRITATING

i thought i was the only one and am glad there are others
(so much that i may take the phone and seek replacement)

my setup:
1. hard reset
2. GoodThings2Life cleanup cab
3. spb mobile shell 3.5.3 (latest version ..but i have tried all 3.x.x)
4. spb mobile shell weather + spb mobile shell phone suite
5. case from body glove

at first i thought it is a conflict between 2. and 3.
but i do not think that is the case, as i have done 2 and not 3...and have done 3 but not 2...and i still get the SOD....


the only way i can recover from is by removing/reinserting the battery
to removing/reinserting the battery , i have to first remove the body glove case (which is a Pain in the A55 to do)
i have removed the case so often that the (small thin that hold the phone in the case )tabs broke and i wasnt able to use the casse

i got a replacement case and drilled holes in the battery back cover and the case so now i can simply reset the phone by pushing the now exposed red button

surprsingly, i havent had to reset the phone since the drilling...but i am anticipating it will give me the SOD any time now....

if it does happen, i will take it back to the store and see what they can do


BTW...i really like items 3, 4, and 5 above.

i also like many of the items in 2.
(i just wish there were reg edits for all the things he has done, so i could just edit the ones i want)

Ph33zy 03-08-2010 11:26 AM

Re: Sleep OF Death!
 
I actually went a night without the Sleep of Death! I installed the USC 2.18 radio (was using the stock sprint and latest verizon one; verizon seemed to cause the most SOD) and downgraded my PRL to 60059. I have very poor coverage inside my house (but I do have Airave femtocell box in my house) and I think it may have something to do with the SOD.

By installing the USC radio, I've lost the ability to use U.S. simcards, but I guess I'll live with it since I don't really have a need to use one. I'll test it out more throughout the day and report back.

Ph33zy 03-14-2010 11:20 PM

Re: Sleep OF Death!
 
Okay, i still have this crap happening! It's still going out quite frequently. why can't i just get a damn HTC phone to work right...

TP2 - SOD issues,
TP1 - Keyboard issues,
Vogue - Poor Screen Quality
Mogul - Low RAM
Apache - Loose Stylus

rizalppc 06-26-2010 09:11 PM

Re: Sleep OF Death!
 
I just upgraded to the latest Verizon HTC TP2 MR2 ROM without any mods and have seen the same thing happen several times this week, plus some other strange stuff. I hard reset it a couple times. I kept the ROM and switched from the included Sense UI back to SPB Mobile Shell 3.5.5 (the latest version) and it seems just fine, and also uses about 20-30 MB less RAM as far as I can tell. Not as pretty as Sense UI (not in my hands, anyway), but works very nicely. So, right or wrong, to me it seems it's the Sense UI that hangs things up. Thanks. Albert

code_311 06-27-2010 12:25 AM

Re: Sleep OF Death!
 
Did you try mrX's fixed ROM for the new VZW Rom? I think he said he has fixed the S.O.D. problem in his ROMs with a different driver?

aiiee 06-27-2010 11:44 AM

Re: Sleep OF Death!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by code_311 (Post 1839680)
Did you try mrX's fixed ROM for the new VZW Rom? I think he said he has fixed the S.O.D. problem in his ROMs with a different driver?

I can vouch for this. As of today, after using Mr. X' ROM for over a week, NO SOD! :toothy7:

Try it today!

toadlife 07-02-2010 12:45 AM

Re: Sleep OF Death!
 
I've been struggling with this for awhile. After reading this thread and a thread over at xda, I am starting to suspect the built in wm65 lock mechanism in conjunction with programs like Smartlock or Lockdevice which trigger the wm65 lock screen. I've been a long time user of Smartlock and more recently Lockdevice (which I believe works the same way as Smartlock) and have seen quite a few posts by people saying that as soon as they stopped using Smartlock, their SOD issues went away. I just uninstalled Smartlock (and disabled all other "auto locking" programs) and am now waiting to see how things go.

fastmike 07-02-2010 01:11 AM

Re: Sleep OF Death!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by toadlife (Post 1848457)
I've been struggling with this for awhile. After reading this thread and a thread over at xda, I am starting to suspect the built in wm65 lock mechanism in conjunction with programs like Smartlock or Lockdevice which trigger the wm65 lock screen. I've been a long time user of Smartlock and more recently Lockdevice (which I believe works the same way as Smartlock) and have seen quite a few posts by people saying that as soon as they stopped using Smartlock, their SOD issues went away. I just uninstalled Smartlock (and disabled all other "auto locking" programs) and am now waiting to see how things go.

I have my own standard set of cabs including LockDevice which I use XDA_UC on all the roms I flash.

I've seen SOD consistently on certain rom versions, I don't think Lockdevice is a contributor.

Lockdevice does seem to be more reliable than smartlock however.

Ph33zy 07-02-2010 01:57 AM

Re: Sleep OF Death!
 
i've noticed that whenever outlook checks mail, manila.exe uses 100% of the cpu. Sometimes when outlook is polling mail during sleep, manila.exe causes the device to be locked up. a quick fix to revive ur phone is to pull out your sdcard and stick it back in. This is really annoying since it never happened on the TP1.

toadlife 07-02-2010 02:13 AM

Re: Sleep OF Death!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fastmike (Post 1848485)
I have my own standard set of cabs including LockDevice which I use XDA_UC on all the roms I flash.

I've seen SOD consistently on certain rom versions, I don't think Lockdevice is a contributor.

Lockdevice does seem to be more reliable than smartlock however.


If it is ROM versions that cause the problem, then the HTC 2.07.xx ROM, which my ROM is based on, is definitely causing SODs.

Regarding lockdevice, I only used it for a short time a week or so ago and switched back to smartlock, so I'm not sure if I actually had a SOD while using it.

May I ask which WM build you are using?

mhunt3 07-02-2010 07:27 AM

Re: Sleep OF Death!
 
I had the same problem with my Sprint TP2 and it was attirbuted to my email. For some reason, my phone all of the sudden tried to download all o the emails from my yahoo acount (over 4000) even though it was set to bring in the last 3 days. Check to see how many emails are on your phone.

toadlife 07-02-2010 04:16 PM

Re: Sleep OF Death!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fastmike (Post 1848485)
I have my own standard set of cabs including LockDevice which I use XDA_UC on all the roms I flash.

I've seen SOD consistently on certain rom versions, I don't think Lockdevice is a contributor.

Lockdevice does seem to be more reliable than smartlock however.

You're right. Had the SOD this morning without any lock programs running. Time to re-base my ROM on something besides HTC 2.07. :(

lafester 07-02-2010 11:22 PM

Re: Sleep OF Death!
 
just wondering why you guys are so set on using a lock program?
don't use one, don't need one and have never had sod errors.
of course i would never use a stock rom either so that may have something to do with it.

just seems like if you are having problems stop using the software that is causing them.

shotcalla 07-02-2010 11:58 PM

Re: Sleep OF Death!
 
Does Mr. X's ROM work on Sprint also or is it only for VZW?


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